MSNBC coverage of Tuesday speeches at RNC...

[BlueHen86]

Basically the Republican Party is the Party most whites vote for and the Democratic Party is the Party most non whites vote for.

I don't know why there is a tendency to criticize the Republican Party for the fact that most "minority" voters don't vote for them. One could just as well question minority voters who vote like zombies overwhelmingly for Democrats every time.

No Democratic Presidential candidate has won the majority of the White vote in a Presidential election since at least as far back as when Nixon ran against Humphrey in 1968. Not even Clinton. And it's not just White men over 40 either. For example: In 2008 the majority of White men voted against Obama and the majority of White women did too. So did the majority of every White age group except for the youngest one (they'll know better when they grow up).

Why is there something "bad" about White people supporting Republicans but not something "bad" about non Whites supporting Democrats?

What does that have to do with MSNBC's coverage? Or Rachel Maddow's manly hotness?

[mainejeff]

Basically the Republican Party is the Party most whites vote for and the Democratic Party is the Party most non whites vote for.

I don't know why there is a tendency to criticize the Republican Party for the fact that most "minority" voters don't vote for them. One could just as well question minority voters who vote like zombies overwhelmingly for Democrats every time.

No Democratic Presidential candidate has won the majority of the White vote in a Presidential election since at least as far back as when Nixon ran against Humphrey in 1968. Not even Clinton. And it's not just White men over 40 either. For example: In 2008 the majority of White men voted against Obama and the majority of White women did too. So did the majority of every White age group except for the youngest one (they'll know better when they grow up).

Why is there something "bad" about White people supporting Republicans but not something "bad" about non Whites supporting Democrats?

What a crock of crap.

[mrklean]

Basically the Republican Party is the Party most whites vote for and the Democratic Party is the Party most non whites vote for.

I don't know why there is a tendency to criticize the Republican Party for the fact that most "minority" voters don't vote for them. One could just as well question minority voters who vote like zombies overwhelmingly for Democrats every time.

No Democratic Presidential candidate has won the majority of the White vote in a Presidential election since at least as far back as when Nixon ran against Humphrey in 1968. Not even Clinton. And it's not just White men over 40 either. For example: In 2008 the majority of White men voted against Obama and the majority of White women did too. So did the majority of every White age group except for the youngest one (they'll know better when they grow up).

Why is there something "bad" about White people supporting Republicans but not something "bad" about non Whites supporting Democrats?

The Question is Why does the Democratic Party look like America post-1961 and the GOP looks like America Pre-1961. Thats the Facts.......Just Saying

[psychoCAT]

If I lived in section 8 housing, had to pay no rent and got a government check to buy my food and pay for my lights, why would I vote Republican? More people on food stamps and disability since THE MAN took control of DC in 2009? klean, are you proud of that? Are you proud of the fact that more blacks are unemployed under a BLACK president? Are you proud of the fact that the founder of Planned Parenthood back in the day supported the abortion of black children? Are you proud of that? If so, hey man, keep voting democrat brother! Knock yourself out. I do not see how ANY self professing Black CHRISTIAN can support a president who endorses and encourages abortion, even in the black community.

I don't get it, I will never get it, but one day, you aren't gonna be able to blame the white man any longer.

[mrklean]

If I lived in section 8 housing, had to pay no rent and got a government check to buy my food and pay for my lights, why would I vote Republican? More people on food stamps and disability since THE MAN took control of DC in 2009? klean, are you proud of that? Are you proud of the fact that more blacks are unemployed under a BLACK president? Are you proud of the fact that the founder of Planned Parenthood back in the day supported the abortion of black children? Are you proud of that? If so, hey man, keep voting democrat brother! Knock yourself out. I do not see how ANY self professing Black CHRISTIAN can support a president who endorses and encourages abortion, even in the black community.

I don't get it, I will never get it, but one day, you aren't gonna be able to blame the white man any longer.

When did I blame the WHITE MAN? See you called yourself out on that question. Only thing I said is that the RNC needs a facelift period!! you came in with the Blame the WHITE MAN crap. But then again, you are who you are.

[psychoCAT]

Uh, you're always blaming the white man for one reason or the other but hey, I'm proud you finally voted in 2008. You've been able to vote since 1965 but waited 43 years? Hmm....................................

[mrklean]

Uh, you're always blaming the white man for one reason or the other but hey, I'm proud you finally voted in 2008. You've been able to vote since 1965 but waited 43 years? Hmm....................................

When did I blame the White Man????????

[psychoCAT]

If I lived in section 8 housing, had to pay no rent and got a government check to buy my food and pay for my lights, why would I vote Republican? More people on food stamps and disability since THE MAN took control of DC in 2009? klean, are you proud of that? Are you proud of the fact that more blacks are unemployed under a BLACK president? Are you proud of the fact that the founder of Planned Parenthood back in the day supported the abortion of black children? Are you proud of that? If so, hey man, keep voting democrat brother! Knock yourself out. I do not see how ANY self professing Black CHRISTIAN can support a president who endorses and encourages abortion, even in the black community.

I don't get it, I will never get it, but one day, you aren't gonna be able to blame the white man any longer.

When did I blame the WHITE MAN? See you called yourself out on that question. Only thing I said is that the RNC needs a facelift period!! you came in with the Blame the WHITE MAN crap. But then again, you are who you are.

And you, once again, danced around FACTS. Tell me, klean, why do so many black pastors endorse abortion among their own race?

[psychoCAT]

Why do black pastors still allow white atheist liberals to tell them that abortion is good? God help us!!!

[mrklean]

When did I blame the WHITE MAN? See you called yourself out on that question. Only thing I said is that the RNC needs a facelift period!! you came in with the Blame the WHITE MAN crap. But then again, you are who you are.

And you, once again, danced around FACTS. Tell me, klean, why do so many black pastors endorse abortion among their own race?

What does this have to do with me. Your question was directed to me. So when did I blame the White Man?

[CID1990]

And you, once again, danced around FACTS. Tell me, klean, why do so many black pastors endorse abortion among their own race?

What does this have to do with me. Your question was directed to me. So when did I blame the White Man?

Saying the GOP needs a facelift is code for "less white".

Just like the word "diversity".

If Newt Gingrich said the Democratic Party needs to "lighten up" Chris Matthews would be spraying spittle accusing him of raaaaaaaacism and using code words. You'd be right there agreeing with him.

Just about everything you post is racially oriented, do it is safe to assume that when you are being ambiguously racist, you are just being plain racist. If you were more intelligent you might be able to mask it better.

[death dealer]

What does this have to do with me. Your question was directed to me. So when did I blame the White Man?

Saying the GOP needs a facelift is code for "less white".

Just like the word "diversity".

If Newt Gingrich said the Democratic Party needs to "lighten up" Chris Matthews would be spraying spittle accusing him of raaaaaaaacism and using code words. You'd be right there agreeing with him.

Just about everything you post is racially oriented, do it is safe to assume that when you are being ambiguously racist, you are just being plain racist. If you were more intelligent you might be able to mask it better.

Dude, just saying someone is angry is racist if you are white.

[mrklean]

What does this have to do with me. Your question was directed to me. So when did I blame the White Man?

Saying the GOP needs a facelift is code for "less white".

Just like the word "diversity".

If Newt Gingrich said the Democratic Party needs to "lighten up" Chris Matthews would be spraying spittle accusing him of raaaaaaaacism and using code words. You'd be right there agreeing with him.

Just about everything you post is racially oriented, do it is safe to assume that when you are being ambiguously racist, you are just being plain racist. If you were more intelligent you might be able to mask it better.

DOnt blame me for this. Mike Steele also said this. I know you want to keep it all whiteeerrrrrrrr. All American; however, dont get pissed off when people refer to your party(GOP) as Old, White and Male.

[blueballs]

The Question is Why does the Democratic Party look like America post-1961 and the GOP looks like America Pre-1961. Thats the Facts.......Just Saying

I'm not quite sure how you figure that... I mean, were my eyes deceiving me when I saw Gov. Haley, Gov. Martinez, Atty. Gen. Bondi, Rep. Davis, Sec. Rice, Rep. West, Sen. Rubio, Herman Cain, etc. etc. etc???????

The facts don't square with the perception, which is the absolute definition of prejudice.

[Bill Lumbergh]

The Question is Why does the Democratic Party look like America post-1961 and the GOP looks like America Pre-1961. Thats the Facts.......Just Saying

I'm not quite sure how you figure that... I mean, were my eyes deceiving me when I saw Gov. Haley, Gov. Martinez, Atty. Gen. Bondi, Rep. Davis, Sec. Rice, Rep. West, Herman Cain, etc. etc. etc???????

The facts don't square with the perception, which is the absolute definition of prejudice.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.

[mainejeff]

I don't get it, I will never get it......

You are correct, sir.

[Cap'n Cat]

I hope some of you lefties weigh in on this....

It was posted on a social networking site by one of my old frat brothers who was born in Cuba and is die hard conservative (like almost every Cuban) that a couple of the conservative media watchdog groups watched MSNBC last night and noted that MSNBC did not show ANY of the minority speakers who addressed the convention.

Is this true???

If so this is yet another example of the worst kind of bias...

Funny, I heard Rush Limbaugh say just that today!

[BlueHen86]

I hope some of you lefties weigh in on this....

It was posted on a social networking site by one of my old frat brothers who was born in Cuba and is die hard conservative (like almost every Cuban) that a couple of the conservative media watchdog groups watched MSNBC last night and noted that MSNBC did not show ANY of the minority speakers who addressed the convention.

Is this true???

If so this is yet another example of the worst kind of bias...

Agreed. Definitely worthy of something FoxNews would do. MSNBC is learning well, now if they could only get people to watch.

[death dealer]

I hope some of you lefties weigh in on this....

It was posted on a social networking site by one of my old frat brothers who was born in Cuba and is die hard conservative (like almost every Cuban) that a couple of the conservative media watchdog groups watched MSNBC last night and noted that MSNBC did not show ANY of the minority speakers who addressed the convention.

Is this true???

If so this is yet another example of the worst kind of bias...

Funny, I heard Rush Limbaugh say just that today!

Again! I swear you are the only guy on here that seems to be consistently listening to Limbaugh.

[Skjellyfetti]

What does this have to do with me. Your question was directed to me. So when did I blame the White Man?

Saying the GOP needs a facelift is code for "less white".

Just like the word "diversity".

If Newt Gingrich said the Democratic Party needs to "lighten up" Chris Matthews would be spraying spittle accusing him of raaaaaaaacism and using code words. You'd be right there agreeing with him.

Just about everything you post is racially oriented, do it is safe to assume that when you are being ambiguously racist, you are just being plain racist. If you were more intelligent you might be able to mask it better.

GOP does need to open itself up to more non-white males.

It's not a matter of racism or political correctness... but, political viability. GOP polling horrible among non-whites and non-males.

The demographics race we’re losing badly. We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.

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[CID1990]

Saying the GOP needs a facelift is code for "less white".

Just like the word "diversity".

If Newt Gingrich said the Democratic Party needs to "lighten up" Chris Matthews would be spraying spittle accusing him of raaaaaaaacism and using code words. You'd be right there agreeing with him.

Just about everything you post is racially oriented, do it is safe to assume that when you are being ambiguously racist, you are just being plain racist. If you were more intelligent you might be able to mask it better.

GOP does need to open itself up to more non-white males.

It's not a matter of racism or political correctness... but, political viability. GOP polling horrible among non-whites and non-males.

The demographics race we’re losing badly. We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.

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I agree with that completely, but it wasn't my point. Guys like Klean throw that around and play the race games 24/7 and I don't let that crap go unchallenged. If pundits on the left are going to sit there and invent "code word" and "dog whistle" conspiracies they need to own the fact that they are precisely what they hate.

But back to what you said: the GOP is more than welcoming to minorities. The ones that do come off the Dem plantation are treated to the red carpet. They have a very long way to go but it is happening gradually.

[D1B]

THe RNC needs a Face Lift. All people see form the Grand Ole Party is, Over 40, WHITE and MALE. Now I know that there are several Minorites and Women in the party but perception is everything. MIke Steele tried to tell the RNC this but then he was Fired.

Right you are... and if certain TV networks don't show the true diversity of the party they are perpetuating the incorrect perception, which IMO is lying.

PLEASE. Conks are, with rare exception, old and white. MSNBC showed enlightened restraint not participating in their ruse to feign diversity with their paid actors and Uncle Toms.

[CAA Flagship]

Right you are... and if certain TV networks don't show the true diversity of the party they are perpetuating the incorrect perception, which IMO is lying.

PLEASE. Conks are, with rare exception, old and white. MSNBC showed enlightened restraint not participating in their ruse to feign diversity with their paid actors and Uncle Toms.

This country's founding fathers were white males as well.

[Baldy]

Right you are... and if certain TV networks don't show the true diversity of the party they are perpetuating the incorrect perception, which IMO is lying.

PLEASE. Conks are, with rare exception, old and white. MSNBC showed enlightened restraint not participating in their ruse to feign diversity with their paid actors and Uncle Toms.

Gotta give it to my boy, J...he's going down swinging.

[psychoCAT]

I am glad the GOP is wealthy, wise and white. If the section 8 crowd had half of that brain capacity, they would've realized the Democratic party shuttled them into high rises in urban settings years ago to keep them under control. They went from the plantation to the concrete jungle and as long as free shit comes in groves, the white libs have them right where they want them and they have the BALLS to call Republicans racists and slave owners??!!! Give me a fucking break!!!

God bless the smart ones like Rice, Cain, and Lynn Swann. klean, you still ain't answering my question! Why do black liberal CHRISTIAN pastors support the womb genocide of YOUR race?!