2012 Phil Steele Preseason Rankings and AAs

[Gil Dobie]

Not bad for a state of 3,062,000 people...LESS THAN HALF THAT of Arizona's 6,482,505 .

Iowa isn't a barren wasteland of corn and dirt roads....but I wouldn't expect you to know any different.

Arizona does have the gravel pit, that they call the valley of the sun.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Iowa - who has produced more draft picks the last 4-7 years than ANYONE in college football

You have anything to back that up? Because I'm pretty sure LSU and Alabama would have something to say about that.

[AZGrizFan]

Iowa - who has produced more draft picks the last 4-7 years than ANYONE in college football

You have anything to back that up? Because I'm pretty sure LSU and Alabama would have something to say about that.

Yeah. Not even close...
texas: 46
miami: 46
usc: 43
ohio state: 40
lsu: 40
georgia: 34
tennessee: 33
iowa: 33
florida: 33
california: 32
maryland: 30
auburn: 29
michigan: 28
oklahoma: 27
penn state: 26
nebraska: 26
florida state: 26
notre dame: 24
alabama: 24
virginia: 23
oregon: 23
south carolina: 22
north carolina: 22
clemson: 22
utah: 21
pitt: 21
mississippi: 21
virginia tech: 20
oregon state: 20
illinois: 20
georgia tech: 20
boston college: 20
wisconsin: 19
ucla: 19
louisville: 19
texas a&m: 18
fresno state: 18
purdue: 17
mississippi state: 17
michigan state: 17
rutgers: 16
arkansas: 16
syracuse: 15
stanford: 15
kansas state: 15
arizona state: 15
san diego state: 14
missouri: 14
colorado: 14
oklahoma state: 13
nc state: 13
west virginia: 12
washington state: 12
tcu: 12
hawaii: 12
boise state: 12
arizona: 12
central florida: 11
troy: 10
texas tech: 10
south florida: 10
kentucky: 10
cincinnati: 10
byu: 10
baylor: 10
toledo: 9
northwestern: 9
colorado state: 9
washington: 8
wake forest: 8
nevada: 8
kent state: 8
houston: 8
connecticut: 8
vanderbilt: 7
temple: 7
new mexico: 7
montana: 7
memphis: 7
marshall: 7
kansas: 7
indiana: 7
idaho: 7
east carolina: 7
central michigan: 7
wyoming: 6
western michigan: 6
umass: 6
minnesota: 6
utah state: 5
southern miss: 5
northern illinois: 5
maine: 5
louisiana tech: 5
duke: 5
california pa: 5
buffalo: 5
arkansas state: 5
appalachian state: 5
abilene christian: 5
william & mary: 4
west texas a&m: 4
villanova: 4
stillman: 4
south dakota state: 4
south carolina state: 4
san jose state: 4
richmond: 4
middle tennessee state: 4
miami ohio: 4
louisiana lafayette: 4
hofstra: 4
harvard: 4
hampton: 4
eastern michigan: 4
utep: 3
unlv: 3
uab: 3
tuskegee: 3
tulane: 3
southern illinois: 3
smu: 3
rice: 3
portland state: 3
ohio: 3
northern iowa: 3
northern colorado: 3
north dakota state: 3
montana state: 3
james madison: 3
iowa state: 3
idaho state: 3
howard: 3
grand valley state: 3
florida atlantic: 3
eastern washington: 3
eastern kentucky: 3
delaware: 3
coastal carolina: 3
bowling green: 3
bethune cookman: 3
akron: 3
western illinois: 2
weber state: 2
tulsa: 2
tennessee chattanooga: 2
southeast missouri state: 2
shippensburg: 2
saginaw valley state: 2
northwestern state louisiana: 2
northwest missouri state: 2
north dakota: 2
norfolk state: 2
nicholls state: 2
new mexico state: 2
nebraska omaha: 2
mount union: 2
missouri state: 2
louisiana monroe: 2
jackson state: 2
furman: 2
fordham: 2
florida international: 2
citadel: 2
cal poly: 2
alabama state: 2
alabama a&m: 2
youngstown state: 1
winston salem state: 1
wheaton: 1
western washington: 1
western oregon: 1
western ontario: 1
washburn: 1
walsh: 1
walla walla cc: 1
valdosta state: 1
trinity: 1
towson: 1
tiffin university: 1
tiffin: 1
texas state: 1
tennessee tech: 1
tennessee state: 1
tarleton state: 1
st pauls: 1
southern connecticut state: 1
southern arkansas: 1
southern miss: 1
southeastern louisiana: 1
south dakota: 1
slippery rock: 1
san diego: 1
samford: 1
salisbury state: 1
sacred heart: 1
sacramento state: 1
regina: 1
prairie view a&m: 1
pittsburg state: 1
ottawa: 1
ohio northern: 1
northwestern oklahoma state: 1
north texas: 1
north alabama: 1
no college: 1
newberry: 1
new hampshire: 1
murray state: 1
morgan state: 1
morehouse: 1
monmouth: 1
missouri western state: 1
michigan tech: 1
mcneese state: 1
manitoba: 1
lindenwood: 1
liberty: 1
lane: 1
lafayette: 1
john carroll: 1
jacksonville state: 1
illinois state: 1
humboldt state: 1
hillsdale: 1
grambling state: 1
georgia southern: 1
fort hays state: 1
florida a&m: 1
eastern illinois: 1
drake: 1
delaware state: 1
cornell: 1
concordia: 1
colorado mines: 1
coe: 1
clarion: 1
chadron state: 1
central washington: 1
central oklahoma: 1
central missouri state: 1
cal davis: 1
brown: 1
bowie state: 1
bloomsburg: 1
bentley: 1
belhaven college: 1
ball state: 1
baker: 1
arkansas pine bluff: 1
alcorn state: 1

[clenz]

You have anything to back that up? Because I'm pretty sure LSU and Alabama would have something to say about that.

Yeah. Not even close...
texas: 46
miami: 46
usc: 43
ohio state: 40
lsu: 40
georgia: 34
tennessee: 33
iowa: 33
florida: 33
california: 32
maryland: 30
auburn: 29
michigan: 28
oklahoma: 27
penn state: 26
nebraska: 26
florida state: 26
notre dame: 24
alabama: 24
virginia: 23
oregon: 23
south carolina: 22
north carolina: 22
clemson: 22
utah: 21
pitt: 21
mississippi: 21
virginia tech: 20
oregon state: 20
illinois: 20
georgia tech: 20
boston college: 20
wisconsin: 19
ucla: 19
louisville: 19
texas a&m: 18
fresno state: 18
purdue: 17
mississippi state: 17
michigan state: 17
rutgers: 16
arkansas: 16
syracuse: 15
stanford: 15
kansas state: 15
arizona state: 15
san diego state: 14
missouri: 14
colorado: 14
oklahoma state: 13
nc state: 13
west virginia: 12
washington state: 12
tcu: 12
hawaii: 12
boise state: 12
arizona: 12
central florida: 11
troy: 10
texas tech: 10
south florida: 10
kentucky: 10
cincinnati: 10
byu: 10
baylor: 10
toledo: 9
northwestern: 9
colorado state: 9
washington: 8
wake forest: 8
nevada: 8
kent state: 8
houston: 8
connecticut: 8
vanderbilt: 7
temple: 7
new mexico: 7
montana: 7
memphis: 7
marshall: 7
kansas: 7
indiana: 7
idaho: 7
east carolina: 7
central michigan: 7
wyoming: 6
western michigan: 6
umass: 6
minnesota: 6
utah state: 5
southern miss: 5
northern illinois: 5
maine: 5
louisiana tech: 5
duke: 5
california pa: 5
buffalo: 5
arkansas state: 5
appalachian state: 5
abilene christian: 5
william & mary: 4
west texas a&m: 4
villanova: 4
stillman: 4
south dakota state: 4
south carolina state: 4
san jose state: 4
richmond: 4
middle tennessee state: 4
miami ohio: 4
louisiana lafayette: 4
hofstra: 4
harvard: 4
hampton: 4
eastern michigan: 4
utep: 3
unlv: 3
uab: 3
tuskegee: 3
tulane: 3
southern illinois: 3
smu: 3
rice: 3
portland state: 3
ohio: 3
northern iowa: 3
northern colorado: 3
north dakota state: 3
montana state: 3
james madison: 3
iowa state: 3
idaho state: 3
howard: 3
grand valley state: 3
florida atlantic: 3
eastern washington: 3
eastern kentucky: 3
delaware: 3
coastal carolina: 3
bowling green: 3
bethune cookman: 3
akron: 3
western illinois: 2
weber state: 2
tulsa: 2
tennessee chattanooga: 2
southeast missouri state: 2
shippensburg: 2
saginaw valley state: 2
northwestern state louisiana: 2
northwest missouri state: 2
north dakota: 2
norfolk state: 2
nicholls state: 2
new mexico state: 2
nebraska omaha: 2
mount union: 2
missouri state: 2
louisiana monroe: 2
jackson state: 2
furman: 2
fordham: 2
florida international: 2
citadel: 2
cal poly: 2
alabama state: 2
alabama a&m: 2
youngstown state: 1
winston salem state: 1
wheaton: 1
western washington: 1
western oregon: 1
western ontario: 1
washburn: 1
walsh: 1
walla walla cc: 1
valdosta state: 1
trinity: 1
towson: 1
tiffin university: 1
tiffin: 1
texas state: 1
tennessee tech: 1
tennessee state: 1
tarleton state: 1
st pauls: 1
southern connecticut state: 1
southern arkansas: 1
southern miss: 1
southeastern louisiana: 1
south dakota: 1
slippery rock: 1
san diego: 1
samford: 1
salisbury state: 1
sacred heart: 1
sacramento state: 1
regina: 1
prairie view a&m: 1
pittsburg state: 1
ottawa: 1
ohio northern: 1
northwestern oklahoma state: 1
north texas: 1
north alabama: 1
no college: 1
newberry: 1
new hampshire: 1
murray state: 1
morgan state: 1
morehouse: 1
monmouth: 1
missouri western state: 1
michigan tech: 1
mcneese state: 1
manitoba: 1
lindenwood: 1
liberty: 1
lane: 1
lafayette: 1
john carroll: 1
jacksonville state: 1
illinois state: 1
humboldt state: 1
hillsdale: 1
grambling state: 1
georgia southern: 1
fort hays state: 1
florida a&m: 1
eastern illinois: 1
drake: 1
delaware state: 1
cornell: 1
concordia: 1
colorado mines: 1
coe: 1
clarion: 1
chadron state: 1
central washington: 1
central oklahoma: 1
central missouri state: 1
cal davis: 1
brown: 1
bowie state: 1
bloomsburg: 1
bentley: 1
belhaven college: 1
ball state: 1
baker: 1
arkansas pine bluff: 1
alcorn state: 1

It's shifted a tad the last couple years then....

Iowa is still 8th - with a roster loaded with "small" town kids from the upper midwest. The two Arizona FBS schools combined don't match Iowa's totals. With a state loaded with talent like Arizona you'd think UofA, ASU, and NAU could keep some of it in state.

[rkwittem]

It's shifted a tad the last couple years then....

Iowa is still 8th - with a roster loaded with "small" town kids from the upper midwest. The two Arizona FBS schools combined don't match Iowa's totals. With a state loaded with talent like Arizona you'd think UofA, ASU, and NAU could keep some of it in state.

Considering how close Arizona is to California...I wouldn't expect them to keep it in state most of the time. USC, Stanford, etc. all recruit in Arizona I'm sure. And I bet the rest of the Pac-12 does, too.

[Grizalltheway]

It's shifted a tad the last couple years then....

Iowa is still 8th - with a roster loaded with "small" town kids from the upper midwest. The two Arizona FBS schools combined don't match Iowa's totals. With a state loaded with talent like Arizona you'd think UofA, ASU, and NAU could keep some of it in state.

Considering how close Arizona is to California...I wouldn't expect them to keep it in state most of the time. USC, Stanford, etc. all recruit in Arizona I'm sure. And I bet the rest of the Pac-12 does, too.

Hell, we even grab a few players from down there.

[blackfordpu]

NDSU at #6
Good! Start low and move up....

I don't quite understand that. Top three at least.

[rkwittem]

NDSU at #6
Good! Start low and move up....

I don't quite understand that. Top three at least.

Pretty sure Mr. Steele doesn't like that the best offensive linemen from last year and our top tackler and pass rusher from 2011 are graduated. I can almost guarantee that's part of why he doesn't have NDSU top 5. I could care less. My money isn't on the Bison to repeat, anyway.

[EWURanger]

Considering how close Arizona is to California...I wouldn't expect them to keep it in state most of the time. USC, Stanford, etc. all recruit in Arizona I'm sure. And I bet the rest of the Pac-12 does, too.

Hell, we even grab a few players from down there.

Ditto.