Help me out here Donks...

[Baldy]

What exactly is Chairman Obama trying to say here?

Too many folks still don't have a sense that tomorrow will be better than today. And so, the question in this election is which way do we go?" President Obama asked at a fundraiser in Chicago on Sunday.

"Do we go forward towards a new vision of an America in which prosperity is shared?" Obama asked. "Or do we go backward to the same policies that got us in the mess in the first place?"

"I believe we have to go forward," Obama said. "I believe we have to keep working to create an America where no matter who you are, no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, no matter what your last name is, no matter who you love, you can make it here if you try. That's what's at stake in November. That's what is why I am running for a second term as president of the United States of America.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... hared.html

[BlueHen86]

What exactly is Chairman Obama trying to say here?

Too many folks still don't have a sense that tomorrow will be better than today. And so, the question in this election is which way do we go?" President Obama asked at a fundraiser in Chicago on Sunday.

"Do we go forward towards a new vision of an America in which prosperity is shared?" Obama asked. "Or do we go backward to the same policies that got us in the mess in the first place?"

"I believe we have to go forward," Obama said. "I believe we have to keep working to create an America where no matter who you are, no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, no matter what your last name is, no matter who you love, you can make it here if you try. That's what's at stake in November. That's what is why I am running for a second term as president of the United States of America.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... hared.html

In 2008 the focus was change, now it's belief.

Belief we can believe in, or maybe Belief that we can change things.

[kalm]

To me, this sounds quite a bit like a "if elected, cheeseburgers will be served everyday for lunch, recess will be extended by 15 minutes or..."San Dimas High School Football Rules!"

I can't decide which one.

[Gil Dobie]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

[kalm]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

[Gil Dobie]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

The people that perform the most work should get a bigger chunk of prosperity.

[D1B]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Sounds pretty pragmatic to me.

Conkutopia: One super wealthy motherfucker in finance or overseas manufacturing who aint doing shit to create jobs and 40 poor/angry people

Progressive Rationalism: 11 wealthy dudes, 25 middle class consumers and 5 poor fucks who can go fuck themselves?

[kalm]

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

The people that perform the most work should get a bigger chunk of prosperity.

Define "most work".

And don't forget brains. As my friend Ivy likes to remind me, brains should be rewarded too. And I agree.

Now, how about leverage? You obviously have a better chance of receiving a bigger chunk if you have a head start.

So do you really think that anyone is suggesting the contrary or that every shared prosperity ain't a good thing?

How about ruthlessness? Cause we reward ruthlessness grandly in this culture.

[Gil Dobie]

The people that perform the most work should get a bigger chunk of prosperity.

Define "most work".

And don't forget brains. As my friend Ivy likes to remind me, brains should be rewarded too. And I agree.

Now, how about leverage? You obviously have a better chance of receiving a bigger chunk if you have a head start.

So do you really think that anyone is suggesting the contrary or that every shared prosperity ain't a good thing?

How about ruthlessness? Cause we reward ruthlessness grandly in this culture.

I am thinking Obama shared prosperity means people that sits in a crack house 24x7 gets the same reward as a person that works for a living. In other words, if you have the ability to contribute to the prosperity and work 8 hours, mind, body or sole, you should not get the same reward as someone that works 12 hours, mind, body or sole all other measurements (output etc) being the same.

[Gil Dobie]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Sounds pretty pragmatic to me.

Conkutopia: One super wealthy motherfucker in finance or overseas manufacturing who aint doing **** to create jobs and 40 poor/angry people

Progressive Rationalism: 11 wealthy dudes, 25 middle class consumers and 5 poor **** who can go **** themselves?

So if they all work the same, you believe they should get different rewards. In my world the wealthy dudes need to work the same amount as the poor dudes to get the same reward.

[kalm]

Define "most work".

And don't forget brains. As my friend Ivy likes to remind me, brains should be rewarded too. And I agree.

Now, how about leverage? You obviously have a better chance of receiving a bigger chunk if you have a head start.

So do you really think that anyone is suggesting the contrary or that every shared prosperity ain't a good thing?

How about ruthlessness? Cause we reward ruthlessness grandly in this culture.

I am thinking Obama shared prosperity means people that sits in a crack house 24x7 gets the same reward as a person that works for a living. In other words, if you have the ability to contribute to the prosperity and work 8 hours, mind, body or sole, you should not get the same reward as someone that works 12 hours, mind, body or sole all other measurements (output etc) being the same.

Reading a bit much into it perhaps?

[Baldy]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

[travelinman67]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

Prosperity is earned, NOT forcibly mandated by dystopian Robin Hood government.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

"proseperity will be shared"

Sounds like back in the USSR to me.

Sounds pretty pragmatic to me.

Conkutopia: One super wealthy motherfucker in finance or overseas manufacturing who aint doing **** to create jobs and 40 poor/angry people

Progressive Rationalism: 11 wealthy dudes, 25 middle class consumers and 5 poor **** who can go **** themselves?

Isn't progressive agendas where everyone is the same? We all contribute to the "pie" and the gov will redistribute it back to us all.

[travelinman67]

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

"My dis-o-bill-it-ee check is late. I'm gonna starve or runs out uh smokes if'n I don't get some cash. We need Ba-rawk for another 4, maybe 8, years. But none uh that "work" shit."

[D1B]

Sounds pretty pragmatic to me.

Conkutopia: One super wealthy motherfucker in finance or overseas manufacturing who aint doing **** to create jobs and 40 poor/angry people

Progressive Rationalism: 11 wealthy dudes, 25 middle class consumers and 5 poor **** who can go **** themselves?

Isn't progressive agendas where everyone is the same? We all contribute to the "pie" and the gov will redistribute it back to us all.

No. We all own the air, water, trees and land. The deal is, we're gonna allow smart fuckers like Tman a larger piece of these resources and in return we expect his intelligence and hard work to create jobs for those with less intelligence.

If he creates a lot of jobs, he will benefit immensely from the labor of the working class and he should further be rewarded by government in the form of tax breaks, loans and stipends. If he fails to create jobs and hides his money in the Cayman Islands or moves his plants to the Philippines, he will be killed by the masses.

That's the deal and that's why fucks like Hogan and DeNunZio carry guns.

[D1B]

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

"My dis-o-bill-it-ee check is late. I'm gonna starve or runs out uh smokes if'n I don't get some cash. We need Ba-rawk for another 4, maybe 8, years. But none uh that "work" shit."

2 year limit on all federal welfare. You also have to have a job to get it.

However, this is funny as fuck.

[kalm]

Isn't progressive agendas where everyone is the same? We all contribute to the "pie" and the gov will redistribute it back to us all.

No. We all own the air, water, trees and land. The deal is, we're gonna allow smart fuckers like Tman a larger piece of these resources and in return we expect his intelligence and hard work to create jobs for those with less intelligence.

If he creates a lot of jobs, he will benefit immensely from the labor of the working class and he should further be rewarded by government in the form of tax breaks, loans and stipends. If he fails to create jobs and hides his money in the Cayman Islands or moves his plants to the Philippines, he will be killed by the masses.

That's the deal and that's why fucks like Hogan and DeNunZio carry guns.

Hyperbolic, but no less so the Gil's post and much more accurate than you conks think.

[kalm]

Sounds pretty pragmatic to me.

Conkutopia: One super wealthy motherfucker in finance or overseas manufacturing who aint doing **** to create jobs and 40 poor/angry people

Progressive Rationalism: 11 wealthy dudes, 25 middle class consumers and 5 poor **** who can go **** themselves?

Isn't progressive agendas where everyone is the same? We all contribute to the "pie" and the gov will redistribute it back to us all.

No.

[kalm]

Since we're speaking in gross over-generalizations here, you don't think prosperity should be shared?

Prosperity is earned, NOT forcibly mandated by dystopian Robin Hood government.

Please define "earned".