Mass shooting at Batman premiere in CO

[BigSkyBears]

Didn't see this here or in the locker room, so I posted it.

It's cases like these with no chance of false conviction where the death penalty seems justifiable. Of course anyone who would do something like this MUST not understand right from wrong and it wouldn't be faaaaaaaaaaair to put them on death row.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colora ... ?hpt=hp_t1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So why make it a political issue?, dumb ass.

I started a thread about this in the Locker Room.

[dbackjon]

And like clockwork, the right is blaming the left as well - Glen Beck and Rush Limpballs.


Can't we mourn the victims first? Can't we wait until we have a little more information?

[93henfan]

As stated earlier, one CCW holder could have significantly reduced the carnage.

What are Colorado's gun laws like?

[ASUG8]

As stated earlier, one CCW holder could have significantly reduced the carnage.

What are Colorado's gun laws like?

I'm thinking that guy would have looked like he got in a fight with a wood chipper if he'd pulled that crap around here. The sheriff in our adjacent county encouraged everyone to get a CWP and gun prices have gone crazy.

[dbackjon]

And seriously - how could a CCR (or a theatre full of CCR) have stopped this?

He set off tear gas.
He had night vision googles.
He was wearing bullet proof armor
He had an assault rifle

someone else shooting is as likely to have killed more people on accident than to have gotten the shooter

[89Hen]

Didn't see this here or in the locker room, so I posted it.

It's cases like these with no chance of false conviction where the death penalty seems justifiable. Of course anyone who would do something like this MUST not understand right from wrong and it wouldn't be faaaaaaaaaaair to put them on death row.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colora ... ?hpt=hp_t1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So why make it a political issue?, dumb ass.

I started a thread about this in the Locker Room.

Is capital punishment a policital issue?

[Pwns]

Didn't see this here or in the locker room, so I posted it.

It's cases like these with no chance of false conviction where the death penalty seems justifiable. Of course anyone who would do something like this MUST not understand right from wrong and it wouldn't be faaaaaaaaaaair to put them on death row.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colora ... ?hpt=hp_t1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So why make it a political issue?, dumb ass.

I started a thread about this in the Locker Room.

It's going to be political. Get over it. This will bring the issue of gun laws, crime and punishment, mental health services, security, violence in the media, and bickering over any kind of world view the shooter might have (probably isn't even capable of any kind of coherent thought, much like a lot of people who commit these types of crimes).

No one who lost a loved one in this shooting is going to care that it is political on CS.com.

[93henfan]

And seriously - how could a CCR (or a theatre full of CCR) have stopped this?

He set off tear gas.
He had night vision googles.
He was wearing bullet proof armor
He had an assault rifle

someone else shooting is as likely to have killed more people on accident than to have gotten the shooter

Sounds like all the more reason to have more people armed defensively. Better chance to stop it.

[bluehenbillk]

Yea I didn't get the thinking in bringing a 3-month old to something like this. Regardless, the guy should receive a speedy trial & be promptly executed. How there can be any other thinking I don't know.

One could be against capital punishent.

Nope. I spoke with the Pope this morning & he agreed it was warranted. Next.

[89Hen]

One could be against capital punishent.

Nope. I spoke with the Pope this morning & he agreed it was warranted. Next.

I'm actually not against capital punishmet because of the church. I used to be staunchly in favor of it while attending church.

[Ibanez]

Who in the fuck brings an infant to the movies, let alone at midnight !?! And a 9 year old too?

White Trash and Ghetto fucks.

[Ibanez]

Another example of how biased the media is, and how they will attempt to slant a story for cosumption by sheeple. How does anyone hear this news and determine "oh it must be some tea party guy" or even suggest that a political party is somehow responsible? Completely illogical. The killer is a total wacko and we have no idea what his motivation was or why he is damaged enough to do this.

Yesterday Rush Limbaugh said the Dark Knight rises is pro-Obama propaganda because the villain is named "Bain". Must be his fault.

He just ignores the fact that Bain (the villian) existed before Bain ( the company. )

[Ibanez]

And like clockwork, the right is blaming the left as well - Glen Beck and Rush Limpballs.


Can't we mourn the victims first? Can't we wait until we have a little more information?

That's doesn't translate into ratings. Get with it.

[Ibanez]

C'mon. To suggest a connection between this and Columbine is a stupid comment.


But i'm sure, this is some how Bush's fault.

[DSUrocks07]

His name is BANE

[dbackjon]

And seriously - how could a CCR (or a theatre full of CCR) have stopped this?

He set off tear gas.
He had night vision googles.
He was wearing bullet proof armor
He had an assault rifle

someone else shooting is as likely to have killed more people on accident than to have gotten the shooter

Sounds like all the more reason to have more people armed defensively. Better chance to stop it.

Explain given the factors above, how armed movie goers would have stopped this? More chance of more deaths than less, given the conditions in the theatre

[Gil Dobie]

Sounds like all the more reason to have more people armed defensively. Better chance to stop it.

Explain given the factors above, how armed movie goers would have stopped this? More chance of more deaths than less, given the conditions in the theatre

Nobody knows if it would have killed more people or not.

#1. Don't aim at the armour

[AZGrizFan]

And seriously - how could a CCR (or a theatre full of CCR) have stopped this?

He set off tear gas.
He had night vision googles.
He was wearing bullet proof armor
He had an assault rifle

someone else shooting is as likely to have killed more people on accident than to have gotten the shooter

You've never seen me shoot. Head shots, baby. Unless he had armor on his head, too. Its amazing how a shooter reacts a tad differently when he realizes there's lead flying back his direction.

[dbackjon]

Explain given the factors above, how armed movie goers would have stopped this? More chance of more deaths than less, given the conditions in the theatre

Nobody knows if it would have killed more people or not.

#1. Don't aim at the armour

How are you going to aim at his head, in the dark, with tear gas, and people bumping, jostling you?

Not gonna happen.

And what if another armed citizen sees you with a gun, thinks you are the shooter, and kills YOU??? Just as likely to happen.

[dbackjon]

And seriously - how could a CCR (or a theatre full of CCR) have stopped this?

He set off tear gas.
He had night vision googles.
He was wearing bullet proof armor
He had an assault rifle

someone else shooting is as likely to have killed more people on accident than to have gotten the shooter

You've never seen me shoot. Head shots, baby. Unless he had armor on his head, too. Its amazing how a shooter reacts a tad differently when he realizes there's lead flying back his direction.

See my reply to Gil.

[Gil Dobie]

How are you going to aim at his head, in the dark, with tear gas, and people bumping, jostling you?

Not gonna happen.

And what if another armed citizen sees you with a gun, thinks you are the shooter, and kills YOU??? Just as likely to happen.

Of course all these scenarios are possible, but I would rather have a gun in this situation than lay on the floor and wait for the assassin to walk up and blow out the back of my head.

[AZGrizFan]

Nobody knows if it would have killed more people or not.

#1. Don't aim at the armour

How are you going to aim at his head, in the dark, with tear gas, and people bumping, jostling you?

Not gonna happen.

And what if another armed citizen sees you with a gun, thinks you are the shooter, and kills YOU??? Just as likely to happen.

All possibilities. But, like I said, a shooter getting SHOT AT certainly wouldn't get 40 people.

[93henfan]

Sounds like all the more reason to have more people armed defensively. Better chance to stop it.

Explain given the factors above, how armed movie goers would have stopped this? More chance of more deaths than less, given the conditions in the theatre

Let me see. Um, I have a gun, there are 300 other people so this guy isn't focused on me. I maneuver and get a clear shot and put a hole through his nose? Maybe 10 less people get killed and 30 less get injured. Sounds like a plan Stan.

Just to address your four points:
1. I've breathed CS gas on numerous occasions. I could still get a shot off, even with burning eyes and a runny nose. CS is designed to make undetermined people who would give us easily go ahead and disperse.
2. If that guy was looking through NVGs while the screen was on, he would have been at a huge disadvantage over me, with eyes already adapted to the lighting and his screen fairly severely washed out.
3. Bulletproof armor: this was his only real advantage. I'd have to hit his face or whatever vulnerable area he presented.
4. Assault rifle: I don't see it as a huge advantage over a handgun in this situation.

Anyway, my point is if say five people drew on this guy, lives would have been saved. The body count would not have increased. The suppressive effect alone would have distracted the fuck out of him until a fatal shot could be delivered by the permit holders.

[AZGrizFan]

Explain given the factors above, how armed movie goers would have stopped this? More chance of more deaths than less, given the conditions in the theatre

Let me see. Um, I have a gun, there are 300 other people so this guy isn't focused on me. I maneuver and get a clear shot and put a hole through his nose? Maybe 10 less people get killed and 30 less get injured. Sounds like a plan Stan.

Just to address your four points:
1. I've breathed CS gas on numerous occasions. I could still get a shot off, even with burning eyes and a runny nose. CS is designed to make undetermined people who would give us easily go ahead and disperse.
2. If that guy was looking through NVGs while the screen was on, he would have been at a huge disadvantage over me, with eyes already adapted to the lighting and his screen fairly severely washed out.
3. Bulletproof armor: this was his only real advantage. I'd have to hit his face or whatever vulnerable area he presented.
4. Assault rifle: I don't see it as a huge advantage over a handgun in this situation.

Anyway, my point is if say five people drew on this guy, lives would have been saved. The body count would not have increased. The suppressive effect alone would have distracted the fuck out of him until a fatal shot could be delivered by the permit holders.

God help the dumb fucker who comes into my place of business intending harm. There are at LEAST 5 of us carrying at all times.

[andy7171]

Someone interviewed the suspects mother and when asked if she thought her son could be involved in something like this she said "You have the right person" WTF