A lot of people were predicting a similar finish last year. New-ish head coach, unproven QB, etc etc. Only time will tell.BigSkyBears wrote:I'm predicting the Griz finish no better than 4th. Right behind MSU, EWU and PSU.kemajic wrote:Kemp is one of the guys who always leads the team in potential. But his deliverables have been such that he is easily replaceable.
The demise of the Griz is being greatly overestimated by the wannabes. It will be business as usual for Montana football this fall. Best stay out of their way; there is a chip on the shoulder.
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New head coach, new coordinators on both side of the ball, replacing 8 starters on defense. Those I believe are sufficient reasons. I like what the other three teams are returning. PSU will be a big factor. They improved by 5 more games last year and Burton is a hell of a recruiter.Grizalltheway wrote:A lot of people were predicting a similar finish last year. New-ish head coach, unproven QB, etc etc. Only time will tell.BigSkyBears wrote:
I'm predicting the Griz finish no better than 4th. Right behind MSU, EWU and PSU.

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what about CP, with their soft schedule they would really have to mess up not to be in the top three.BigSkyBears wrote:I'm predicting the Griz finish no better than 4th. Right behind MSU, EWU and PSU.kemajic wrote:Kemp is one of the guys who always leads the team in potential. But his deliverables have been such that he is easily replaceable.
The demise of the Griz is being greatly overestimated by the wannabes. It will be business as usual for Montana football this fall. Best stay out of their way; there is a chip on the shoulder.
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Yeah, I can see that. I guess i just put the Vikes up there because I know that team better.cats2506 wrote:what about CP, with their soft schedule they would really have to mess up not to be in the top three.BigSkyBears wrote:
I'm predicting the Griz finish no better than 4th. Right behind MSU, EWU and PSU.

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I dont really have a problem with PSU being in the discussion over who will contend for the title, but just thought CP need to be in there too.BigSkyBears wrote:Yeah, I can see that. I guess i just put the Vikes up there because I know that team better.cats2506 wrote:
what about CP, with their soft schedule they would really have to mess up not to be in the top three.
SUU is another that may contend too, but I don't know enough about them other than they have a damn good qb
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Yes, but don't forget that they lost McCaffrey & Kavanaugh, who combined to provide 66% of their rushing yards and 80% of their passing yards. I think SUU, NAU, and CP are more likely to beat out the Griz than the Viks are.BigSkyBears wrote:PSU will be a big factor. They improved by 5 more games last year and Burton is a hell of a recruiter.
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SUU has a brutal schedule. Opening with two losses (Utah State & Cal), then they're @ PSU, have MSU and Sac State at home, go to UM, then have Weber and EWU at home, then go TO UND and TO NAU. Honestly, I can see SUU going 3-5 in conference. Very easily.Mvemjsunpx wrote:Yes, but don't forget that they lost McCaffrey & Kavanaugh, who combined to provide 66% of their rushing yards and 80% of their passing yards. I think SUU, NAU, and CP are more likely to beat out the Griz than the Viks are.BigSkyBears wrote:PSU will be a big factor. They improved by 5 more games last year and Burton is a hell of a recruiter.
NAU has a slightly easier path, finishing up the season at home against UC Davis, @ UNC, @ ISU, and at home against SUU and CP.
CP has the easiest schedule in the BSC, having to play NEITHER Montana nor MSU and opening against non-scholly San Diego.
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SUU did beat Weber St last year AT Weber... also beat NAU in Flagstaff. But yes, SUU does have a brutal path to travel this year indeed. Should be interesting to see how they can contend this first year. QB is great but I also hand respect to both O and D lines... and most of all, to Coach Lamb. That guy has amazed me 5 years in a row since he arrived in Southern Utah. I hope we don't lose him... he did just sign another 5 year extension at the end of last year though. Go LambAZGrizFan wrote:SUU has a brutal schedule. Opening with two losses (Utah State & Cal), then they're @ PSU, have MSU and Sac State at home, go to UM, then have Weber and EWU at home, then go TO UND and TO NAU. Honestly, I can see SUU going 3-5 in conference. Very easily.Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Yes, but don't forget that they lost McCaffrey & Kavanaugh, who combined to provide 66% of their rushing yards and 80% of their passing yards. I think SUU, NAU, and CP are more likely to beat out the Griz than the Viks are.
NAU has a slightly easier path, finishing up the season at home against UC Davis, @ UNC, @ ISU, and at home against SUU and CP.
CP has the easiest schedule in the BSC, having to play NEITHER Montana nor MSU and opening against non-scholly San Diego.
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Dont forget that CP's game against EWU is non conferenceAZGrizFan wrote:SUU has a brutal schedule. Opening with two losses (Utah State & Cal), then they're @ PSU, have MSU and Sac State at home, go to UM, then have Weber and EWU at home, then go TO UND and TO NAU. Honestly, I can see SUU going 3-5 in conference. Very easily.Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Yes, but don't forget that they lost McCaffrey & Kavanaugh, who combined to provide 66% of their rushing yards and 80% of their passing yards. I think SUU, NAU, and CP are more likely to beat out the Griz than the Viks are.
NAU has a slightly easier path, finishing up the season at home against UC Davis, @ UNC, @ ISU, and at home against SUU and CP.
CP has the easiest schedule in the BSC, having to play NEITHER Montana nor MSU and opening against non-scholly San Diego.
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Kemp had tons of potential and he has been an asset to the team in certain situations. However, his loss would not be a huge hit to the team. Setting the standards to be followed by the leadership of this team is much more important in my view.
Losing JJ will be a huge loss to the team because it will take them 3 or 4 games to get the next QB settled into the position. The non-confernce games are winnable but by no means assured. Playing ASU at home is very difficult even with the issues they are dealing with.
That being said, this Griz team has a lot of talent returning and a stable of running backs to work with. The returners had lots of reps last year so even though it appears that the Griz lost a lot through graduation (which they did), the replacements will step up. This coaching staff will untiilize the players they have to the best of their stengths.
I look for a good season record even though it will not come easy by any means.
Losing JJ will be a huge loss to the team because it will take them 3 or 4 games to get the next QB settled into the position. The non-confernce games are winnable but by no means assured. Playing ASU at home is very difficult even with the issues they are dealing with.
That being said, this Griz team has a lot of talent returning and a stable of running backs to work with. The returners had lots of reps last year so even though it appears that the Griz lost a lot through graduation (which they did), the replacements will step up. This coaching staff will untiilize the players they have to the best of their stengths.
I look for a good season record even though it will not come easy by any means.
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I think those type of numbers are to be expected with a team running the pistol. both were good players but Burton has PSU on a rising plane and I think they will be a contender this year.Mvemjsunpx wrote:Yes, but don't forget that they lost McCaffrey & Kavanaugh, who combined to provide 66% of their rushing yards and 80% of their passing yards. I think SUU, NAU, and CP are more likely to beat out the Griz than the Viks are.BigSkyBears wrote:PSU will be a big factor. They improved by 5 more games last year and Burton is a hell of a recruiter.
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Uhh, what?grizfan47 wrote:Kemp had tons of potential and he has been an asset to the team in certain situations. However, his loss would not be a huge hit to the team. Setting the standards to be followed by the leadership of this team is much more important in my view.
Losing JJ will be a huge loss to the team because it will take them 3 or 4 games to get the next QB settled into the position. The non-confernce games are winnable but by no means assured. Playing ASU at home is very difficult even with the issues they are dealing with.
That being said, this Griz team has a lot of talent returning and a stable of running backs to work with. The returners had lots of reps last year so even though it appears that the Griz lost a lot through graduation (which they did), the replacements will step up. This coaching staff will untiilize the players they have to the best of their stengths.
I look for a good season record even though it will not come easy by any means.
Also, it looks like Kemp isn't officially gone yet.
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I'm biased, of course, but still am enclined to go with Cat's opinion. Any competent RB will do well in the Pistol, if it's well executed, and PSU has a thoroughly experienced, deep, and hefty OL. We have several RBs that can replace McCaffrey. The real questions reside elsewhere. Will Ramirez, the JC QB we've brought in do as well as his numbers suggest? Or will the Soph QB, Milholland, run the show? He's a better runner, apparently. Will the DL hold up? The CBs look good, but what about the S and SS? Our backfield is suspect, until proven otherwise. Our special team is fine. You can expect at leasxt 2-3 field goals per game.
But is this enough to go against Montana? Right now I'd say no. Give it another year.
But is this enough to go against Montana? Right now I'd say no. Give it another year.
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PSU doesn't play Montana this year, so it really doesn't matter if its enough to go against umfrinq wrote:I'm biased, of course, but still am enclined to go with Cat's opinion. Any competent RB will do well in the Pistol, if it's well executed, and PSU has a thoroughly experienced, deep, and hefty OL. We have several RBs that can replace McCaffrey. The real questions reside elsewhere. Will Ramirez, the JC QB we've brought in do as well as his numbers suggest? Or will the Soph QB, Milholland, run the show? He's a better runner, apparently. Will the DL hold up? The CBs look good, but what about the S and SS? Our backfield is suspect, until proven otherwise. Our special team is fine. You can expect at leasxt 2-3 field goals per game.
But is this enough to go against Montana? Right now I'd say no. Give it another year.
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I think he meant enough to challenge UM for the conference title, which is where the discussion was focused.cats2506 wrote:PSU doesn't play Montana this year, so it really doesn't matter if its enough to go against umfrinq wrote:I'm biased, of course, but still am enclined to go with Cat's opinion. Any competent RB will do well in the Pistol, if it's well executed, and PSU has a thoroughly experienced, deep, and hefty OL. We have several RBs that can replace McCaffrey. The real questions reside elsewhere. Will Ramirez, the JC QB we've brought in do as well as his numbers suggest? Or will the Soph QB, Milholland, run the show? He's a better runner, apparently. Will the DL hold up? The CBs look good, but what about the S and SS? Our backfield is suspect, until proven otherwise. Our special team is fine. You can expect at leasxt 2-3 field goals per game.
But is this enough to go against Montana? Right now I'd say no. Give it another year.
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Oooh! Oooh! I got this one!Grizalltheway wrote:I think he meant enough to challenge UM for the conference title, which is where the discussion was focused.cats2506 wrote: PSU doesn't play Montana this year, so it really doesn't matter if its enough to go against um
*Cats2506voice*
lol, who honestly thinks UM will challenge for the conference title?
*boom dynamite*
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*touchdown Thurman Thomas*
I think I nailed it.
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uofmman1122 wrote:Oooh! Oooh! I got this one!Grizalltheway wrote:
I think he meant enough to challenge UM for the conference title, which is where the discussion was focused.
*Cats2506voice*
lol, who honestly thinks UM will challenge for the conference title?![]()
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University of Montana, the other Penn State.93henfan wrote:Well, looking on the bright side, no one has reported any slapping sounds coming from the showers in Missoula.
Yet.
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FIFYGrizalltheway wrote:I think he meant enough to challenge UM for THIRD PLACE, which is where the discussion was focused.cats2506 wrote: PSU doesn't play Montana this year, so it really doesn't matter if its enough to go against um
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I'll bet you $20 the Griz finish ahead of the scats this year, and beat them head to head.cats2506 wrote:FIFYGrizalltheway wrote:
I think he meant enough to challenge UM for THIRD PLACE, which is where the discussion was focused.
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check your PMAZGrizFan wrote:I'll bet you $20 the Griz finish ahead of the scats this year, and beat them head to head.cats2506 wrote: FIFY
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Perhaps we can make installment 2 of this guy more interesting this yearAZGrizFan wrote:I'll bet you $20 the Griz finish ahead of the scats this year, and beat them head to head.cats2506 wrote: FIFY
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Brock Landers wrote:Perhaps we can make installment 2 of this guy more interesting this yearAZGrizFan wrote:
I'll bet you $20 the Griz finish ahead of the scats this year, and beat them head to head.
Forgot about that thread. Good stuff.DaCats21 wrote:This bet is a lock.
Im in
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