Why Obama Will Lose

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:47 pm

The Hill Poll: Majority of voters believe Obama has changed country for worse

"Two-thirds of likely voters say President Obama has kept his 2008 campaign promise to change America — but it’s changed for the worse, according to a sizable majority.

A new poll for The Hill found 56 percent of likely voters believe Obama’s first term has transformed the nation in a negative way, compared to 35 percent who believe the country has changed for the better under his leadership.

The results signal broad voter unease with the direction the nation has taken under Obama’s leadership and present a major challenge for the incumbent Democrat as he seeks reelection this fall."

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:49 pm

Obama is definitely beatable, the sad part come November will be voting between the "lesser of two evils". No matter who you vote for, Obama or Romney, they both suck. We need a third party, bad.

Bronco · Post by **Bronco** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:50 pm

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He should lose because he absolutely stinks as a president

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:53 pm

Why he will win:

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:55 pm

Another reason Obama will cruise to victory:

Post by **Col Hogan** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:28 pm

dbackjon wrote:Another reason Obama will cruise to victory:

If that's all ya' got...I may change my prediction...

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:37 pm

Col Hogan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Another reason Obama will cruise to victory:

If that's all ya' got...I may change my prediction...

Not all - just a reason...

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:56 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Col Hogan wrote: If that's all ya' got...I may change my prediction...

Not all - just a reason...

Because you sure as hell can't point to something Obama has DONE as a reason he'll win.

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:59 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Not all - just a reason...
Because you sure as hell can't point to something Obama has DONE as a reason he'll win.

Affordable Healthcare that will end up saving the nation Billions.
Repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell
Stopped the economic slide into oblivion that Bush and his party started.

Is not the one that drove the nation's economy off the cliff - it is a great testement that we have been able to recover some from the Bush Economic Disaster. Why the hell would any sane 99% want to put the foxes back in charge?

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:10 pm

dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Because you sure as hell can't point to something Obama has DONE as a reason he'll win.

Affordable Healthcare that will end up saving the nation Billions.
Repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell
Stopped the economic slide into oblivion that Bush and his party started.

Is not the one that drove the nation's economy off the cliff - it is a great testement that we have been able to recover some from the Bush Economic Disaster. Why the hell would any sane 99% want to put the foxes back in charge?

breathe.....

If you TRULY believe that, Jon, there's no hope for you.

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:31 pm

dbackjon wrote: Affordable Healthcare that will end up saving the nation Billions.
Repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell
Stopped the economic slide into oblivion that Bush and his party started.

Is not the one that drove the nation's economy off the cliff - it is a great testement that we have been able to recover some from the Bush Economic Disaster. Why the hell would any sane 99% want to put the foxes back in charge?

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:38 pm

Why Obama will win: Electoral college math.

Obama needs 49 ev's from swing states.
Romney needs 89 ev's from swing states.

Start counting the states Romney needs to win. And he's down in almost every single one.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:39 pm

dbackjon wrote:Affordable Healthcare that will end up saving the nation Billions

Define "nation".

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:45 pm

Romney will get blasted just because he is who he is and we Republicans do not even like him. How in the world is the independents and undecideds going to like him?

Put the two up there side by side in any debate or discussion and Mitt is in serious trouble against the much slicker and more polished Obama.

Throw on the fact that people generally like Obama as a person, but only one out of six polled say they like Mitt as a person.

Lowest percentage voter turnout predicted for the November election due to severe boredom with today's political banter, incumbent wins by landslide, voter apathy out numbers voters who actually voted, over by cocktail hour Pacific Time, now moving closer to Mountain time.

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:45 pm

Obama also has 62 electoral votes in states that he is currently leading that he can give to Romney.

And still win.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:46 pm

Wedgebuster wrote:we Republicans

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:48 pm

89Hen wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:we Republicans

I am counted as a Republican, so I am also a Republican, apparently no different than you. That is unless you can truthfully say, you like Romney.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:54 pm

This is 2004 all over again, only with parties reversed. Everything bad that you can say about Obama, dems said about Bush 8 years ago. Yet Bush won, in large part because he had a weak opponent.

Obama is beatable, but I think he wins.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:07 pm

Wedgebuster wrote:
89Hen wrote:
I am counted as a Republican, so I am also a Republican, apparently no different than you. That is unless you can truthfully say, you like Romney.

I don't like Romney, but that doesn't make you a Republican. Neither does listing it as your party of record. Your posting record here is very clear.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:07 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:This is 2004 all over again, only with parties reversed. Everything bad that you can say about Obama, dems said about Bush 8 years ago. Yet Bush won, in large part because he had a weak opponent.

Obama is beatable, but I think he wins.

It's been said several times here.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:20 pm

89Hen wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:This is 2004 all over again, only with parties reversed. Everything bad that you can say about Obama, dems said about Bush 8 years ago. Yet Bush won, in large part because he had a weak opponent.

Obama is beatable, but I think he wins.
It's been said several times here.

I know I've been saying it for a while. I've also seen you post it a few times.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:22 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Why Obama will win: Electoral college math.

Obama needs 49 ev's from swing states.
Romney needs 89 ev's from swing states.

Start counting the states Romney needs to win. And he's down in almost every single one.

I agree. It's a long uphill battle at this point.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:23 pm

Wedgebuster wrote:Put the two up there side by side in any debate or discussion and Mitt is in serious trouble against the much slicker and more polished Obama.

Throw on the fact that people generally like Obama as a person, but only one out of six polled say they like Mitt as a person.

Lowest percentage voter turnout predicted for the November election due to severe boredom with today's political banter, incumbent wins by landslide, voter apathy out numbers voters who actually voted, over by cocktail hour Pacific Time, now moving closer to Mountain time.

a) There's that "we republicans" comment again. Comical.
b) The "polished" Obama only comes out when speaking from a teleprompter.
c) If there's a lower % turnout, Obama better hope it's not among the extra 5,000,000 African Americans who voted for the first time in '08.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:27 pm

89Hen wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:
I am counted as a Republican, so I am also a Republican, apparently no different than you. That is unless you can truthfully say, you like Romney.

I don't like Romney, but that doesn't make you a Republican. Neither does listing it as your party of record. Your posting record here is very clear.

A Republican all the same.

Just like your relatives, you can't pick your party members.

Yes, I am a Republican, and yes, I believe Mitt Romney is a terrible candidate, and I do not believe he has even a thin chance this fall. I have looked into the Republican crystal ball, we will have a black President once more, and we will have yet to have a Mormon President, although the day is drawing nearer, these folks are piling into politics these day. It is just not going to be Mitt.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:53 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Why Obama will win: Electoral college math.

Obama needs 49 ev's from swing states.
Romney needs 89 ev's from swing states.

Start counting the states Romney needs to win. And he's down in almost every single one.
I agree. It's a long uphill battle at this point.

I will vote for Ron Paul again.

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