SCOTUS-HealthCare Reform

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:15 am

SCOTUS upholds mandate. Roberts sides with the Left in his decision. THis is definetly a game changer. So, what else can the Gov't force us to buy?

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:19 am

Ibanez wrote:Individual Mandate is struck down.

Ha. Good one.

Then why does the CNN headline say "Correction: SCOTUS Backs All Parts of Obamacare"?

Somebody's confused somewhere.

JMU DJ · Post by **JMU DJ** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:19 am

Incorrect Mark.

Ha. Good one.

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:22 am

So, I don't have access to TV. Does anyone know wtf is going on? Seems like the courtroom reporter jumped the gun.

∞∞∞ · Post by **∞∞∞** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:22 am

CNN really messed up bad. I took a screen pic before it went down:

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 am

OK, now I read "Upheld 5-4"

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 am

Fuckin CNN.

Ha. Good one.

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 am

93henfan wrote:So, I don't have access to TV. Does anyone know wtf is going on? Seems like the courtroom reporter jumped the gun.

it upheld, Roberts sided with the left.

Ha. Good one.

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 am

I think the decision surprised some of the networks - CNN- in a rush to get it first, got it wrong and Fox is so stunned they haven't even put on their site yet what the decision even was.

Roberts himself voted to uphold the legislation - by a 5-4 margin.

Move on, nothing more to see here.

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:24 am

Man, I guess we'll have to watch out for angry right-wingers shooting up federal buildings for a few weeks.

JMU DJ · Post by **JMU DJ** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:24 am

93henfan wrote:OK, now I read "Upheld 5-4"

Ha, what a cluster fuck. I'm reading 6-3

polsongrizz · Post by **polsongrizz** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:24 am

Ibanez wrote:
In a landmark decision that will impact the nation for decades, the Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a key provision of President Barack Obama's health care law, ruling that requiring people to have health insurance violates the Constitution.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/28/ho ... ?hpt=hp_t1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I could be wrong, but me thinks you are by a 6-3 margin...

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:25 am

JMU DJ wrote:
93henfan wrote:OK, now I read "Upheld 5-4"
Ha, what a cluster fuck. I'm reading 6-3

Oh the joys of the internet age.

polsongrizz · Post by **polsongrizz** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:27 am

93henfan wrote:Man, I guess we'll have to watch out for angry right-wingers shooting up federal buildings for a few weeks.

We are traveling through Utah right now, I heard a roar of applause then a groan when they realized that this vote was for Obama's version and not the one their Mormon hero instituted...

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:27 am

The court ruled that the mandate is unconstitutional, but it can stay as part of Congress's power under a taxing clause. The court said that the government will be allowed to tax people for not having health insurance.

"The Affordable care act's requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably characterized as a tax. Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness," the court said in the ruling.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/sup ... d=16663839" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:27 am

Now reading the CNN bloggers try to defend their fuggup:

Lisa Desjardins: "Important to say that (obviously) this is a complicated ruling and Roberts' did say indiv. mandate could not stand under Commerce Clause."

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:30 am

Wow. In reading about the Obamacare ruling, I stumbled upon a ruling earlier in the day. SCOTUS found that lies are protected under the first amendment and it is not a crime to lie about earning military medals.

Hot damn. My resume just got a little but longer.

Signed,
93henfan, MOH, PH w/ three oak leaf clusters

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:33 am

93henfan wrote:Wow. In reading about the Obamacare ruling, I stumbled upon a ruling earlier in the day. SCOTUS found that lies are protected under the first amendment and it is not a crime to lie about earning military medals.

Hot damn. My resume just got a little but longer.

Signed,
93henfan, MOH, PH w/ three oak leaf clusters

Yeah, I saw that. I have 3 PH that I got while fighting in Bagdad, Afghanistan and Somalia. I hope to have the MOH one day. Maybe i'll get it around lunch.

Sincerely,

Ret. General Ibanez, 3 PH, Silver Star,

polsongrizz · Post by **polsongrizz** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:36 am

And FOX "news" just imploded....

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:36 am

Ibanez wrote:
93henfan wrote:Wow. In reading about the Obamacare ruling, I stumbled upon a ruling earlier in the day. SCOTUS found that lies are protected under the first amendment and it is not a crime to lie about earning military medals.

Hot damn. My resume just got a little but longer.

Signed,
93henfan, MOH, PH w/ three oak leaf clusters
Yeah, I saw that. I have 3 PH that I got while fighting in Bagdad, Afghanistan and Somalia. I hope to have the MOH one day. Maybe i'll get it around lunch.

Sincerely,

Ret. General Ibanez, 3 PH, Silver Star,

I always wanted one of these. Now I can get one:

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:41 am

Wall Street taking a bit of a dump. Did the ruling spook them ya think? I honestly don't follow that shit enough to know.

polsongrizz · Post by **polsongrizz** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:46 am

Ibanez wrote:
93henfan wrote:Wow. In reading about the Obamacare ruling, I stumbled upon a ruling earlier in the day. SCOTUS found that lies are protected under the first amendment and it is not a crime to lie about earning military medals.

Hot damn. My resume just got a little but longer.

Signed,
93henfan, MOH, PH w/ three oak leaf clusters
Yeah, I saw that. I have 3 PH that I got while fighting in Bagdad, Afghanistan and Somalia. I hope to have the MOH one day. Maybe i'll get it around lunch.

Sincerely,

Ret. General Ibanez, 3 PH, Silver Star,

I suggest you both calm down and salute.

Yours truly

Supreme Commander, Generalissimo Pols

polsongrizz · Post by **polsongrizz** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:48 am

93henfan wrote:
I always wanted one of these. Now I can get one:

I have one of those, well kind of, I went to the Antarctic as a civilian.

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:00 am

93henfan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Yeah, I saw that. I have 3 PH that I got while fighting in Bagdad, Afghanistan and Somalia. I hope to have the MOH one day. Maybe i'll get it around lunch.

Sincerely,

Ret. General Ibanez, 3 PH, Silver Star,
I always wanted one of these. Now I can get one:

I'm trying to get involved with a National Science Foundation project that works with the Antartica base. I'd love to go down there. A buddy of mine here in the gubmit has been a few times.

Pwns · Post by **Pwns** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:00 am

So basically, the opinion of the majority is that the mandate is pretty much a tax. Brilliant. So i guess it's okay for us to pay taxes to private businesses now. I say we start paying taxes to all the donk's trial lawyer friends and cut out the middle men.

You know, I was pretty sure I was going to vote third party or indy but I think I've got to go with Romney now. This abortion of a health care "reform" law needs to be destroyed.

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