The Supremes - what's your call?

[Wedgebuster]

Seriously??

Do you seriously think the individual mandate is going to curtail health care costs?

Do you seriously think not making everybody become part of the pool, and making sure everybody is paying in the system is not going to curtail health care costs?

Obviously the favorite plan of the disenfranchised party, as well as the easily swayed, and not to leave out the ignorant, is to do nothing and let insurance companies decline those who need care, and let those who don't have coverage continue to rely on the rest of us to pay their medical bills as we pay for ours. This has worked out so well thus far, we surely must continue it, we can not afford to let our international image of having the very finest medical care system in the world slide, just like we do in leading the world in math and science education.

Gosh we Americans are the most goodest at almost everything, and boy if we try to find a better solution or suggest change, we will hear it from our "guard."

[Baldy]

But you're completely happy with Obama not going by the constitution with the executive order he signed 2 weeks ago?

Supreme Court addressed that - perfectly constitutional what Obama did.

One reason why Scalia almost blew a gasket.

Really? The SCOTUS said that the president can unilaterally grant backdoor amnesty with the stroke of a pen?

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[Gil Dobie]

I say the mandate is struck down 5-4, and the rest of the statute goes too because the Congressional dumbasses forgot the severability clause.

The mandate would only make criminals out of people that don't want health insurance, therefore a need for bigger jails.

[GannonFan]

Do you seriously think the individual mandate is going to curtail health care costs?

Do you seriously think not making everybody become part of the pool, and making sure everybody is paying in the system is not going to curtail health care costs?

Obviously the favorite plan of the disenfranchised party, as well as the easily swayed, and not to leave out the ignorant, is to do nothing and let insurance companies decline those who need care, and let those who don't have coverage continue to rely on the rest of us to pay their medical bills as we pay for ours. This has worked out so well thus far, we surely must continue it, we can not afford to let our international image of having the very finest medical care system in the world slide, just like we do in leading the world in math and science education.

Gosh we Americans are the most goodest at almost everything, and boy if we try to find a better solution or suggest change, we will hear it from our "guard."

Well, that's a response - not a particularly good one, but most people don't look to you for well reasoned responses anyway.

It won't curtail health care costs because of two reasons - 1) the individual mandate does not even raise enough money to offset the costs that are already there today, let alone the costs we'll have in the future. Even the CBO acknowledges this that basically the individual mandate is simply a drop in the bucket in terms of revenue. 2) the biggest issue with health care costs is that we want everything and we want it now. The individual mandate does nothing to temper our desire for health care services. We want the best medication, we want whatever surgery or procedure is available, and we want it right now. The individual mandate does nothing to satiate our thirst for the solution of whatever may ail us. We're great at innovating and we're great at coming up with the next big thing - having an individual mandate isn't going to change our ability to come up with new treatments and new procedures that we will want to have without waiting for them. Even if the payback is minimal, we still want it.

So rather than pooh-pooh another response, why don't you actually try to fire up a neuron or two, assuming you have them, and come up with an argument that the individual mandate will rein in costs - like I said, most everybody acknowledges that it won't, even the people who champion the mandate today, because demand for health care services will greatly exceed whatever revenue the mandate brings in (they are even arguing we need a much bigger mandate in terms of $$$) and how does the mandate have any impact on people's desires for services? I know, thinking is probably hard for you, but take a rest in between sentences and let the headache go away and then try again. I believe in you.

[Wedgebuster]

Do you seriously think not making everybody become part of the pool, and making sure everybody is paying in the system is not going to curtail health care costs?

Obviously the favorite plan of the disenfranchised party, as well as the easily swayed, and not to leave out the ignorant, is to do nothing and let insurance companies decline those who need care, and let those who don't have coverage continue to rely on the rest of us to pay their medical bills as we pay for ours. This has worked out so well thus far, we surely must continue it, we can not afford to let our international image of having the very finest medical care system in the world slide, just like we do in leading the world in math and science education.

Gosh we Americans are the most goodest at almost everything, and boy if we try to find a better solution or suggest change, we will hear it from our "guard."

Well, that's a response - not a particularly good one, but most people don't look to you for well reasoned responses anyway.

It won't curtail health care costs because of two reasons - 1) the individual mandate does not even raise enough money to offset the costs that are already there today, let alone the costs we'll have in the future. Even the CBO acknowledges this that basically the individual mandate is simply a drop in the bucket in terms of revenue. 2) the biggest issue with health care costs is that we want everything and we want it now. The individual mandate does nothing to temper our desire for health care services. We want the best medication, we want whatever surgery or procedure is available, and we want it right now. The individual mandate does nothing to satiate our thirst for the solution of whatever may ail us. We're great at innovating and we're great at coming up with the next big thing - having an individual mandate isn't going to change our ability to come up with new treatments and new procedures that we will want to have without waiting for them. Even if the payback is minimal, we still want it.

So rather than pooh-pooh another response, why don't you actually try to fire up a neuron or two, assuming you have them, and come up with an argument that the individual mandate will rein in costs - like I said, most everybody acknowledges that it won't, even the people who champion the mandate today, because demand for health care services will greatly exceed whatever revenue the mandate brings in (they are even arguing we need a much bigger mandate in terms of $$$) and how does the mandate have any impact on people's desires for services? I know, thinking is probably hard for you, but take a rest in between sentences and let the headache go away and then try again. I believe in you.

Not reading any more of your shit gannon fuck.

You get to join ass face cluck on the iggy list. Congrats!

[CID1990]

Buzzy Ginsberg appears to be writing the dissent. Or the majority. Bet she considers retiring immediately if the court strikes down Obamacare.

[GannonFan]

Well, that's a response - not a particularly good one, but most people don't look to you for well reasoned responses anyway.

It won't curtail health care costs because of two reasons - 1) the individual mandate does not even raise enough money to offset the costs that are already there today, let alone the costs we'll have in the future. Even the CBO acknowledges this that basically the individual mandate is simply a drop in the bucket in terms of revenue. 2) the biggest issue with health care costs is that we want everything and we want it now. The individual mandate does nothing to temper our desire for health care services. We want the best medication, we want whatever surgery or procedure is available, and we want it right now. The individual mandate does nothing to satiate our thirst for the solution of whatever may ail us. We're great at innovating and we're great at coming up with the next big thing - having an individual mandate isn't going to change our ability to come up with new treatments and new procedures that we will want to have without waiting for them. Even if the payback is minimal, we still want it.

So rather than pooh-pooh another response, why don't you actually try to fire up a neuron or two, assuming you have them, and come up with an argument that the individual mandate will rein in costs - like I said, most everybody acknowledges that it won't, even the people who champion the mandate today, because demand for health care services will greatly exceed whatever revenue the mandate brings in (they are even arguing we need a much bigger mandate in terms of $$$) and how does the mandate have any impact on people's desires for services? I know, thinking is probably hard for you, but take a rest in between sentences and let the headache go away and then try again. I believe in you.

Not reading any more of your **** gannon ****.

You get to join ass face cluck on the iggy list. Congrats!

You must still cry and take your ball home with you when you start losing in wiffle ball, don't you?

[andy7171]

I say the mandate is struck down 5-4, and the rest of the statute goes too because the Congressional dumbasses forgot the severability clause.

[Ibanez]

I say the mandate is struck down 5-4, and the rest of the statute goes too because the Congressional dumbasses forgot the severability clause.

They had to vote for it so that they can read it.

[UNI88]

It won't curtail health care costs because of two reasons - 1) the individual mandate does not even raise enough money to offset the costs that are already there today, let alone the costs we'll have in the future. Even the CBO acknowledges this that basically the individual mandate is simply a drop in the bucket in terms of revenue. 2) the biggest issue with health care costs is that we want everything and we want it now. The individual mandate does nothing to temper our desire for health care services. We want the best medication, we want whatever surgery or procedure is available, and we want it right now. The individual mandate does nothing to satiate our thirst for the solution of whatever may ail us. We're great at innovating and we're great at coming up with the next big thing - having an individual mandate isn't going to change our ability to come up with new treatments and new procedures that we will want to have without waiting for them. Even if the payback is minimal, we still want it.

Very true. I would add that it's not just that we want it, doctors want to order all of the latest tests, etc. because they're scared to death of being sued and want to cover their azzes as much as possible.

So rather than pooh-pooh another response, why don't you actually try to fire up a neuron or two, assuming you have them, and come up with an argument that the individual mandate will rein in costs - like I said, most everybody acknowledges that it won't, even the people who champion the mandate today, because demand for health care services will greatly exceed whatever revenue the mandate brings in (they are even arguing we need a much bigger mandate in terms of $$$) and how does the mandate have any impact on people's desires for services? I know, thinking is probably hard for you, but take a rest in between sentences and let the headache go away and then try again. I believe in you.

Not reading any more of your **** gannon ****.

You get to join ass face cluck on the iggy list. Congrats!

That was some pretty good sh!t. I don't think I've ever seen Ganny come down so hard on someone before.

[Wedgebuster]

It won't curtail health care costs because of two reasons - 1) the individual mandate does not even raise enough money to offset the costs that are already there today, let alone the costs we'll have in the future. Even the CBO acknowledges this that basically the individual mandate is simply a drop in the bucket in terms of revenue. 2) the biggest issue with health care costs is that we want everything and we want it now. The individual mandate does nothing to temper our desire for health care services. We want the best medication, we want whatever surgery or procedure is available, and we want it right now. The individual mandate does nothing to satiate our thirst for the solution of whatever may ail us. We're great at innovating and we're great at coming up with the next big thing - having an individual mandate isn't going to change our ability to come up with new treatments and new procedures that we will want to have without waiting for them. Even if the payback is minimal, we still want it.

Very true. I would add that it's not just that we want it, doctors want to order all of the latest tests, etc. because they're scared to death of being sued and want to cover their azzes as much as possible.

Not reading any more of your **** gannon ****.

You get to join ass face cluck on the iggy list. Congrats!

That was some pretty good sh!t. I don't think I've ever seen Ganny come down so hard on someone before.

That is because he is a loser, and thinks his opinion is law.

See too many of these types shooting their pie holes off on television these days, I ain't gonna look at it here.
Two down, maybe a few more to go.

[GannonFan]

That is because he is a loser, and thinks his opinion is law.

See too many of these types shooting their pie holes off on television these days, I ain't gonna look at it here.
Two down, maybe a few more to go.

Nonsense, wedgie, you just have an inability to constructively debate anyone who has an opinion different than your own. I mean, why even participate in a forum like this if you don't want to hear opposing viewpoints and try to work out how they mesh or don't mesh with your own (and even, god forbid, change your opinion)? Of course, the irony of all of this is that you won't even see this because you've closeted yourself into a cocoon where you convince yourself that you're always right (and the irony is that you accuse others of that). Pity. Although I abhor sheer ignorance so your absence won't be so bad.

[UNI88]

Very true. I would add that it's not just that we want it, doctors want to order all of the latest tests, etc. because they're scared to death of being sued and want to cover their azzes as much as possible.



That was some pretty good sh!t. I don't think I've ever seen Ganny come down so hard on someone before.

That is because he is a loser, and thinks his opinion is law.

See too many of these types shooting their pie holes off on television these days, I ain't gonna look at it here.
Two down, maybe a few more to go.

I'm pretty sure Ganny voted for Obama but has become disenfranchised with his actual performance in office.

Unfortunately it is difficult to argue with those who continue to smoke Obama's hopium rather than opening up their mind to other points of view.

[Wedgebuster]

That is because he is a loser, and thinks his opinion is law.

See too many of these types shooting their pie holes off on television these days, I ain't gonna look at it here.
Two down, maybe a few more to go.

I'm pretty sure Ganny voted for Obama but has become disenfranchised with his actual performance in office.

Unfortunately it is difficult to argue with those who continue to smoke Obama's hopium rather than opening up their mind to other points of view.

My post had nothing to do with Obama friend, unfortunately common sense riles those with prejudices.

As far a hopium I can only offer you my pole, but you had better be good at it. I am confident in you son.

[Ivytalk]

One more day!

[CID1990]

I love how the talking heads on the lefty channels (that's pretty much all of them) are arguing the legitimacy of the court already. They apparently aren't reading the tea leaves of what the populace actually wants.

That said, I am thinking that the court could go either way, and some of the people predicting the court may uphold are making sense.

[Wedgebuster]

[CAA Flagship]

All this fighting is shameful.

Someday, we'll be together.

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