Should Dual-Citizenship disqualify you for Federal Office?

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:40 am

Does this violate the Constitution? Conflict or not?

Post by **Ibanez** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:47 am

What level are we talking about?

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:50 am

Ibanez wrote:What level are we talking about?

House, Senate, Presidency

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:57 am

Ibanez wrote:What level are we talking about?

Michelle Bachmann

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:03 am

andy7171 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:What level are we talking about?
Michelle Bachmann

Inspired by this - just suprised that a US Rep could do this. I didn't mention her name to try to keep likes/dislikes out of it, but more on a pure constitutional/philosophical basis.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:07 am

She is obviously too stupid to serve in such a capacity. There needs to be a test for this, but perhaps it should be graded on a curve depending on who they represent....

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:10 am

dbackjon wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Michelle Bachmann
Inspired by this - just suprised that a US Rep could do this. I didn't mention her name to try to keep likes/dislikes out of it, but more on a pure constitutional/philosophical basis.

Or catch someone in an AHA! situation. Kinda like 89 asking should siblings be allowed to marry.

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:28 am

As far as I'm concerned, it's a clear case of conflict of interest in foriegn relations.

Post by **danefan** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:31 am

andy7171 wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's a clear case of conflict of interest in foriegn relations.

Agreed. You either denounce your citizenship from the other country and swear allegiance to the US or don't hold the office.

Post by **SDHornet** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:31 am

danefan wrote:
andy7171 wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's a clear case of conflict of interest in foriegn relations.
Agreed. You either denounce your citizenship from the other country and swear allegiance to the US or don't hold the office.

I agree.

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:39 am

danefan wrote:
andy7171 wrote:As far as I'm concerned, it's a clear case of conflict of interest in foriegn relations.
Agreed. You either denounce your citizenship from the other country and swear allegiance to the US or don't hold the office.

Have there ever been any congressmen that held US and Israeli citizenship?

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:39 am

andy7171 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Inspired by this - just suprised that a US Rep could do this. I didn't mention her name to try to keep likes/dislikes out of it, but more on a pure constitutional/philosophical basis.
Or catch someone in an AHA! situation. Kinda like 89 asking should siblings be allowed to marry.

Nope - usually you'd be right, but I wanted to get other's opinions bias free on this.

For the record, I voted yes - I think anyone in this situation should resign.

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:39 am

andy7171 wrote:
danefan wrote:
Agreed. You either denounce your citizenship from the other country and swear allegiance to the US or don't hold the office.
Have there ever been any congressmen that held US and Israeli citizenship?

Good question.

Post by **danefan** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:41 am

I voted "no" by accident. I misread the question and answered whether they "Should they be able hold office". Not whether it should disqualify them.

I should have voted "yes" for disqualification.

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:41 am

dbackjon wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Have there ever been any congressmen that held US and Israeli citizenship?

Good question.

Because when they go nuke Iran and set off WWIII, it's going to be an issue.

Post by **danefan** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:44 am

andy7171 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Good question.
Because when they go nuke Iran and set off WWIII, it's going to be an issue.

Carl Levin
Chairman of the Armed Services Committee

Or at least that's what Google results say. Nothing officially confirming it though.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:51 am

I think in most cases you can be a dual national and hold a security clearance, but that is largely dependent on the country.

Also Sodomy

pantherclaw · Post by **pantherclaw** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:44 pm

danefan wrote:I voted "no" by accident. I misread the question and answered whether they "Should they be able hold office". Not whether it should disqualify them.

I should have voted "yes" for disqualification.

I as well thought it meant should they be able to hold office.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Fri May 11, 2012 3:51 am

Only if they were technically born outside the USA and it's territories.

LeadBolt · Post by **LeadBolt** » Fri May 11, 2012 4:01 am

I agree with the conflict of interest thoughts. Holding citizenship in a foreign nation should be renounced before seeking public office.

Post by **HI54UNI** » Fri May 11, 2012 7:56 am

Why should it matter? We elected a muslin that isn't even a citizen as president.

Spoiler: show

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Fri May 11, 2012 12:27 pm

In Bachmann's case, her citizenship was automatically conferred based on her marriage. Some countries do this. She is a natural born US citizen though, and that should be the controlling factor. I thought she renounced? I haven't followed the issue much other than a blurb I saw on CNN the other morning.

Also Sodomy

Post by **dbackjon** » Fri May 11, 2012 1:53 pm

CID1990 wrote:In Bachmann's case, her citizenship was automatically conferred based on her marriage. Some countries do this. She is a natural born US citizen though, and that should be the controlling factor. I thought she renounced? I haven't followed the issue much other than a blurb I saw on CNN the other morning.

Also Sodomy

She did renounce it.

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