To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:44 am

Take a stand for Equality!

Thanks

Post by **grizzaholic** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:46 am

dbackjon wrote:Take a stand for Equality!

Thanks

I like the First Amendment, what about free speech don't you like?

Post by **ASUG8** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 am

Jon should probably go ahead and queue up the "Fvck you North Carolina" thread.

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 am

grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Take a stand for Equality!

Thanks
I like the First Amendment, what about free speech don't you like?

Amendment One to the North Carolina Constitution - to ban same-sex marriage, civil union, or any granting of rights that married heterosexual couples have now.

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:49 am

ASUG8 wrote:Jon should probably go ahead and queue up the "Fvck you North Carolina" thread.

Prolly - but I have hope

Post by **grizzaholic** » Tue May 08, 2012 7:51 am

dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
I like the First Amendment, what about free speech don't you like?
Amendment One to the North Carolina Constitution - to ban same-sex marriage, civil union, or any granting of rights that married heterosexual couples have now.

aaahhhhh. I see.

sorry for my ignorance. I will see if I can call in a favor with a mod to get the title changed to "FUCK YOU NC!!"

POST EDIT: Damn ASUG8 beat me to it.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Tue May 08, 2012 8:16 am

grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Amendment One to the North Carolina Constitution - to ban same-sex marriage, civil union, or any granting of rights that married heterosexual couples have now.
aaahhhhh. I see.

sorry for my ignorance. I will see if I can call in a favor with a mod to get the title changed to "FUCK YOU NC!!"

POST EDIT: Damn ASUG8 beat me to it.

You're gettin' old, compadre.

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:40 am

Call me naive, or just call me lazy, which I am. How accepted/not accepted are civil unions in other non-3rd world countries? Just curious.

CitadelGrad · Post by **CitadelGrad** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:41 am

I'm torn about this. I believe in equal rights for all (except negroes), but I don't like fags. This is a very tough call.

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:43 am

bluehenbillk wrote:Call me naive, or just call me lazy, which I am. How accepted/not accepted are civil unions in other non-3rd world countries? Just curious.

Same-sex marriage is legally recognized nationwide in Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Iceland, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, and Sweden. In the United States, same-sex marriages are not recognized federally, though same-sex couples can marry in six of the fifty states and one district. In Mexico, same-sex marriages are only performed in Mexico City, but these marriages are recognized by all Mexican states and by the Mexican federal government.[67] Israel does not recognize same-sex marriages performed on its territory, but recognizes same-sex marriages performed in foreign jurisdictions. In Brazil, the state of Alagoas performs same-sex marriages. Also, in other states, a same-sex couple may convert their civil union into marriage with the approval of a state judge. If approved, that marriage is recognized in all the national territory.[68]

Same-sex marriage is likely to be passed in a number of European countries in the next two years.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:45 am

bluehenbillk wrote:Call me naive, or just call me lazy, which I am. How accepted/not accepted are civil unions in other non-3rd world countries? Just curious.

http://www.infoplease.com/world/countri ... z1uIUx2gvw

T-Dog · Post by **T-Dog** » Tue May 08, 2012 11:34 am

I went to the polls last Friday.

Rob Iola · Post by **Rob Iola** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:04 pm

Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:15 pm

Another thing I don't get is the big deal news outlets make about this as a political issue.

Really?

What Obama/Biden/Romney thing about the institution of marriage? Seriously, that shouldn't even be in the top 20 Presidential campaign issues!

Next.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:21 pm

Rob Iola wrote:Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

I am more liberal than our Prez on this issue, apparently. I would be voting no if I was still a NC voter.

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Post by **danefan** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:28 pm

bluehenbillk wrote:Another thing I don't get is the big deal news outlets make about this as a political issue.

Really?

What Obama/Biden/Romney thing about the institution of marriage? Seriously, that shouldn't even be in the top 20 Presidential campaign issues!

Next.

+1

Its just one example of the misplaced priorities of our political system.

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:29 pm

Rob Iola wrote:Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

And I give him shit for that - I call him a bigot on Democratic sites (and get posts deleted, etc)

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:33 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Rob Iola wrote:Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

And I give him shit for that - I call him a bigot on Democratic sites (and get posts deleted, etc)

So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama...

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:38 pm

89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

And I give him shit for that - I call him a bigot on Democratic sites (and get posts deleted, etc)
So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama...

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.

Post by **clenz** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm

I'm willing to bet that if there was a candidate that was 100% in agreement with every one of Jon's views except gay marriage, Jon wouldn't vote for him/her.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm

dbackjon wrote:No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

No, I'm not mistaken.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:44 pm

dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote: So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama...

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.

Candidate A is for gay marriage and against all of your other views.
Candidate B is against gay marriage and for all of your other views.

Who do you choose?

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 pm

dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote: So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama...

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.

I would call it honesty rather than hostility. At least he is unequivocal about it.

Also Sodomy

Rob Iola · Post by **Rob Iola** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:18 pm

bluehenbillk wrote:Another thing I don't get is the big deal news outlets make about this as a political issue.

Really?

What Obama/Biden/Romney thing about the institution of marriage? Seriously, that shouldn't even be in the top 20 Presidential campaign issues!

Next.

It's only an issue for Obama because he's got his spokesman having to walk this "his view is evolving" BS tightrope. Frankly it's Obama's single biggest problem - not his views on gay marriage, but his inability to take clear stands on even seemingly minor issues (e.g., not in the top 20). Obamacare, for a much bigger example, is a shell of what it could be because he refused to tax the Cadillac plans that inconveniently are part of the auto unions' benefit packages. At least until SCOTUS strikes it down...

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:11 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.
Candidate A is for gay marriage and against all of your other views.
Candidate B is against gay marriage and for all of your other views.

Who do you choose?

Candidate B

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