Catholic Church: Any support for Gay Rights = NO MONEY

[dbackjon]

For three years now, Compañeros, a small nonprofit organization in rural southwestern Colorado, has received thousands of dollars from the Roman Catholic Church to help poor Hispanic immigrants with basic needs including access to health care and guidance on local laws.

But in February, the group was informed by a representative from the Diocese of Pueblo that its financing from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, an arm of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops devoted to ending poverty, was in danger.

The problem, the diocesan liaison explained, was Compañeros’s membership in an immigrant rights coalition that had joined forces with a statewide gay and lesbian advocacy group, recounted Nicole Mosher, Compañeros’s executive director.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/us/ca ... ml?_r=1&hp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


WWJD?

Not this.

[Col Hogan]

What am I missing here...

WWJD??? Not support groups that oppose his teachings...

[Cap'n Cat]

[Cap'n Cat]

What am I missing here...

WWJD??? Not support groups that oppose his teachings...

He'd welcome diversity in thought, Rovey. Go die, you old cunt.

[lakesbison]

absolutely!

if you're gay, move to canada or europe.

[dbackjon]

absolutely!

if you're gay, move to canada or europe.

You really just need to fuck off and die.

Why should I, an American, move because of how I was born?

What's next with you - niggers back to Africa?
Wops back to Italy?
Wetbacks back to Mexico?


You are a despicble pile of shit - hateful, ignorant, and not worthy to be alive

[Grizalltheway]

absolutely!

if you're gay, move to canada or europe.

Go eat a .45, douche canoe.

[dbackjon]

What am I missing here...

WWJD??? Not support groups that oppose his teachings...

I think you and the rest of the Catholic hate group need to actually study the Bible...

[Cap'n Cat]

What am I missing here...

WWJD??? Not support groups that oppose his teachings...

I think you and the rest of the Catholic hate group need to actually study the Bible...

Col Hogan is the most hateful Conk on this board, bar none.

[Cap'n Cat]

absolutely!

if you're gay, move to canada or europe.

Go eat a .45, douche canoe.

Douche canoe!!!!!

[HI54UNI]

For three years now, Compañeros, a small nonprofit organization in rural southwestern Colorado, has received thousands of dollars from the Roman Catholic Church to help poor Hispanic immigrants with basic needs including access to health care and guidance on local laws.

But in February, the group was informed by a representative from the Diocese of Pueblo that its financing from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, an arm of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops devoted to ending poverty, was in danger.

The problem, the diocesan liaison explained, was Compañeros’s membership in an immigrant rights coalition that had joined forces with a statewide gay and lesbian advocacy group, recounted Nicole Mosher, Compañeros’s executive director.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/us/ca ... ml?_r=1&hp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


WWJD?

Not this.

Why is an organization that is supposed to be helping immigrants joining a gay/lesbian advocacy group? I understand it may be a human rights issue to them but it seems to me they would have enough to worry about with the immigrant issue.

[Cap'n Cat]

For three years now, Compañeros, a small nonprofit organization in rural southwestern Colorado, has received thousands of dollars from the Roman Catholic Church to help poor Hispanic immigrants with basic needs including access to health care and guidance on local laws.

But in February, the group was informed by a representative from the Diocese of Pueblo that its financing from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, an arm of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops devoted to ending poverty, was in danger.

The problem, the diocesan liaison explained, was Compañeros’s membership in an immigrant rights coalition that had joined forces with a statewide gay and lesbian advocacy group, recounted Nicole Mosher, Compañeros’s executive director.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/us/ca ... ml?_r=1&hp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


WWJD?

Not this.

Why is an organization that is supposed to be helping immigrants joining a gay/lesbian advocacy group? I understand it may be a human rights issue to them but it seems to me they would have enough to worry about with the immigrant issue.

I see your point, Fiver, but, as with many of these groups, they, rightfully, in many minds, work to help other oppressed people. More power to them.

[dbackjon]

For three years now, Compañeros, a small nonprofit organization in rural southwestern Colorado, has received thousands of dollars from the Roman Catholic Church to help poor Hispanic immigrants with basic needs including access to health care and guidance on local laws.

But in February, the group was informed by a representative from the Diocese of Pueblo that its financing from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, an arm of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops devoted to ending poverty, was in danger.

The problem, the diocesan liaison explained, was Compañeros’s membership in an immigrant rights coalition that had joined forces with a statewide gay and lesbian advocacy group, recounted Nicole Mosher, Compañeros’s executive director.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/us/ca ... ml?_r=1&hp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


WWJD?

Not this.

Why is an organization that is supposed to be helping immigrants joining a gay/lesbian advocacy group? I understand it may be a human rights issue to them but it seems to me they would have enough to worry about with the immigrant issue.

Plent of gay immigrants - who often have much to fear if deported back to home countries that are even more reporessive than here

[D1B]

[Ibanez]

absolutely!

if you're gay, move to canada or europe.

So closeminded. THink about all those tax dollars and votes you'd lose!

Fuckin idiot.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Didn't read the article but from what is said here I assume the recipient of the money does good deeds in it's own way. Those good deeds don't line up with what the church believes.

How the hell is that even an issue? Do gay groups give to the Catholic Church because they do some good work even though it doesn't line up with their agenda?

Gay groups can replace the money not given by the Catholic Church can they not? Show the goodness in your hearts gay community and just say "so what, we got this".

[Cap'n Cat]

The Catholic "tent" is about as big as the Conk tent.

[HI54UNI]

Why is an organization that is supposed to be helping immigrants joining a gay/lesbian advocacy group? I understand it may be a human rights issue to them but it seems to me they would have enough to worry about with the immigrant issue.

Plent of gay immigrants - who often have much to fear if deported back to home countries that are even more reporessive than here

Thanks. Didn't think about the home countries being more repressive. That's why I asked the question.

[Rob Iola]

It's funny - well not so much - the only hate expressed on this forum comes from the left-leaning folks. The conks support positions you don't like, and then out comes the venom and insults. And it's not limited to this forum - compare and contrast the occupy movement, the protest everything movement, and the Wisconsin capital invasion movement with, say, the teabagger movement - the most vicious hateful rhetoric almost uniformly comes from the left.

[D1B]

Didn't read the article but from what is said here I assume the recipient of the money does good deeds in it's own way. Those good deeds don't line up with what the church believes.

How the hell is that even an issue? Do gay groups give to the Catholic Church because they do some good work even though it doesn't line up with their agenda?

Gay groups can replace the money not given by the Catholic Church can they not? Show the goodness in your hearts gay community and just say "so what, we got this".

The primary issue is that the church's beliefs are fucked. It's bigotry, plain and simple and due to size and influence of the catholic church, it breeds more bigotry.

[D1B]

It's funny - well not so much - the only hate expressed on this forum comes from the left-leaning folks. The conks support positions you don't like, and then out comes the venom and insults. And it's not limited to this forum - compare and contrast the occupy movement, the protest everything movement, and the Wisconsin capital invasion movement with, say, the teabagger movement - the most vicious hateful rhetoric almost uniformly comes from the left.

Rob, it's because most conks ARE bigots, criminals or racists. It takes a strong effort to combat hundreds of years of your bullshit and the gloves are off.

Same thing with your fucked up cult.

[Rob Iola]

It's funny - well not so much - the only hate expressed on this forum comes from the left-leaning folks. The conks support positions you don't like, and then out comes the venom and insults. And it's not limited to this forum - compare and contrast the occupy movement, the protest everything movement, and the Wisconsin capital invasion movement with, say, the teabagger movement - the most vicious hateful rhetoric almost uniformly comes from the left.

Rob, it's because most conks ARE bigots, criminals or racists. It's take a strong effort to combat hundreds of years of your bullshit and the gloves are off.

Same thing with your fucked up cult.

I rest my case.

[D1B]

Rob, it's because most conks ARE bigots, criminals or racists. It's take a strong effort to combat hundreds of years of your bullshit and the gloves are off.

Same thing with your fucked up cult.

I rest my case.

Rest all you want, you're still a member of a cult that discriminates against people and is actively attempting to cover up a scandal involving tens of thousands of children who were raped and molested by your priests.

Own it.

[Grizalltheway]

Yeah, telling someone to leave the country because they're gay isn't hateful at all.

[Rob Iola]

I rest my case.

Rest all you want, you're still a member of a cult that discriminates against people and is actively attempting to cover up a scandal involving tens of thousands of children who were raped and molested by your priests.

Own it.

That's better - even better would be focusing on actual facts - there are Catholic cults (like the Mother of God community in Gaithersburg Maryland - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/lo ... ogmain.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), there are Catholic rapists in priest's garb (http://www.bishop-accountability.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), and there's the rich 2000 year old Catholic history full of scandals, power grabs, genocide, and other grief. Less well documented is the issue of homosexual men entering the seminaries and priesthood, and the church's struggles to effectively deal with something that they teach against.

The Catholic Church also does a disproportionate amount of good in the world, not to mention prepares it's members for eternal life with God.

You disagree and point out the evil. Likewise your brother likes to point out the problems that Conks cause. Fair enough, but do you not see a problem in your rhetoric? What happened to civil discourse and the ability to argue your case without resorting to petty insults and cursing?