Do these items make me look suspicious?

[Benne]

I don't think this was a premeditated crime, but if he was following the kid after he was told not to, a scuffle ensues and he shoots the kid with the only gun in the fight, the gun he brought, and probably pulled out, it's at least manslaughter right? Surely this wasn't the intent of the law that was passed in Florida, and if its used as the defense, the law probably needs another look.

[youngterrier]

Pretty sure he was visiting friends or family and was not trespassing. Also keep in mind that Zimmerman was a self appointed sheriff who called 911 some 40 times in the recent past.

No doubt that Zimmerman is a douchenozzle, BUT... it all really boils down to what happened in the 30 seconds or so before the kid was shot. If we can never find out with any certainty what happened, then can we convict based on that?

I'm going to probably get crucified for this, but let's say hypothetically that Martin did throw the first punch, as one witness account says (there are contradictory accounts of course).

Here's what we know for sure:
-Zimmerman was following Martin persistently, even after being told not to by authorities
-Martin KNEW he was being followed, as his phone calls indicate
-Martin took off and ran at one point to avoid his pursuer
-Zimmerman still followed after that
-Martin did not know, who exactly was following him, what their intentions were, etc.

So I have to ask, if someone was following you home, and it was clear, and you had no idea as to why, what would you do? You already took off and ran, thinking you lost the pursuer, but he still found you again. There's no indication that he will call off his pursuit, even if you get to your house. The mystery factor of Zimmerman is definitely something to be considered in this case. He never identified himself or anything. Martin didn't have a clue what Zimmerman's intentions were at all. He could have been a serial killer for all he knew, because the creepiness was certainly there.

It's like the old gun owner adage goes, when the cops are minutes away, every second counts. Would you do anything different than Martin in this situation, especially being unarmed? I mean, if I had a gun in the house, I know I'd make my way home ASAP, but if it I don't and this creepy guy keeps following me (in a car no less) there's nothing stopping him from taking me out at any second. Might as well get the drop on him. And once that happens, seeing that the guy has a gun, I ask again, would you keep wailing on him? Because if you stop, there's really nothing stopping the other guy getting up and shooting him.

All I'm saying is that, before we judge Martin, regardless of whether or not started the actual altercation, let's not pretend we wouldn't act in at least a similar way, given the circumstances.

[SeattleGriz]

Story over. I can't be racism or profiling. Zimmerman was a registered Democrat.

http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The individual at the center of the controversial Trayvon Martin shooting is a registered Democrat.

George Michael Zimmerman, born Oct. 5, 1983, registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in August 2002, according to state voter registration documents.

It is unclear whether he voted for President Barack Obama in 2008.

Some in the media have sought to blame Republican politicians and conservative activists for Martin’s death.

[Benne]

Story over. I can't be racism or profiling. Zimmerman was a registered Democrat.

http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The individual at the center of the controversial Trayvon Martin shooting is a registered Democrat.

George Michael Zimmerman, born Oct. 5, 1983, registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in August 2002, according to state voter registration documents.

It is unclear whether he voted for President Barack Obama in 2008.

Some in the media have sought to blame Republican politicians and conservative activists for Martin’s death.

t
He must not have gotten the news that the Southern Democrats switched sides in the 60's

[89Hen]

I'm going to probably get crucified for this, but let's say hypothetically that Martin did throw the first punch, as one witness account says (there are contradictory accounts of course).

Here's what we know for sure:
-Zimmerman was following Martin persistently, even after being told not to by authorities
-Martin KNEW he was being followed, as his phone calls indicate
-Martin took off and ran at one point to avoid his pursuer
-Zimmerman still followed after that
-Martin did not know, who exactly was following him, what their intentions were, etc.

Not crucified, but your list of "what we know for sure" contains at least a couple things we don't know for sure.

[Bronco]

-
Should just post the facts

[youngterrier]

I'm going to probably get crucified for this, but let's say hypothetically that Martin did throw the first punch, as one witness account says (there are contradictory accounts of course).

Here's what we know for sure:
-Zimmerman was following Martin persistently, even after being told not to by authorities
-Martin KNEW he was being followed, as his phone calls indicate
-Martin took off and ran at one point to avoid his pursuer
-Zimmerman still followed after that
-Martin did not know, who exactly was following him, what their intentions were, etc.

Not crucified, but your list of "what we know for sure" contains at least a couple things we don't know for sure.

Like what?

[89Hen]

Not crucified, but your list of "what we know for sure" contains at least a couple things we don't know for sure.

Like what?

Persistently. That would suggest he tailed him until the confrontation. Witnesses have him back at his SUV before the altercation. We don't know when he stopped following him.

[youngterrier]

Like what?

Persistently. That would suggest he tailed him until the confrontation. Witnesses have him back at his SUV before the altercation. We don't know when he stopped following him.

Considering he called, what, 37 times? And that Martin noticed him following him and felt threatened or uncomfortable enough to take off running.....only for Zimmerman to come find him again.

If that's not persistent enough, I don't know what is.

[Baldy]

No doubt that Zimmerman is a douchenozzle, BUT... it all really boils down to what happened in the 30 seconds or so before the kid was shot. If we can never find out with any certainty what happened, then can we convict based on that?

I'm going to probably get crucified for this, but let's say hypothetically that Martin did throw the first punch, as one witness account says (there are contradictory accounts of course).

Here's what we know for sure:
-Zimmerman was following Martin persistently, even after being told not to by authorities
-Martin KNEW he was being followed, as his phone calls indicate
-Martin took off and ran at one point to avoid his pursuer
-Zimmerman still followed after that
-Martin did not know, who exactly was following him, what their intentions were, etc.

So I have to ask, if someone was following you home, and it was clear, and you had no idea as to why, what would you do? You already took off and ran, thinking you lost the pursuer, but he still found you again. There's no indication that he will call off his pursuit, even if you get to your house. The mystery factor of Zimmerman is definitely something to be considered in this case. He never identified himself or anything. Martin didn't have a clue what Zimmerman's intentions were at all. He could have been a serial killer for all he knew, because the creepiness was certainly there.

It's like the old gun owner adage goes, when the cops are minutes away, every second counts. Would you do anything different than Martin in this situation, especially being unarmed? I mean, if I had a gun in the house, I know I'd make my way home ASAP, but if it I don't and this creepy guy keeps following me (in a car no less) there's nothing stopping him from taking me out at any second. Might as well get the drop on him. And once that happens, seeing that the guy has a gun, I ask again, would you keep wailing on him? Because if you stop, there's really nothing stopping the other guy getting up and shooting him.

All I'm saying is that, before we judge Martin, regardless of whether or not started the actual altercation, let's not pretend we wouldn't act in at least a similar way, given the circumstances.

First, we don't know if Martin knew if Zimmerman had a gun or not.
Secondly, we don't know if Zimmerman ID'd himself or not.

Finally, look at it this way....
No matter the situation, If a 6'1 220 lb kid in his "late teens" punched you in the face, broke your nose, and started bang your head on the ground (according to one alleged witness), would you be in fear for your life and pull your gun out and shoot the guy?

[Col Hogan]

I'm going to probably get crucified for this, but let's say hypothetically that Martin did throw the first punch, as one witness account says (there are contradictory accounts of course).

Here's what we know for sure:
-Zimmerman was following Martin persistently, even after being told not to by authorities
-Martin KNEW he was being followed, as his phone calls indicate
-Martin took off and ran at one point to avoid his pursuer
-Zimmerman still followed after that
-Martin did not know, who exactly was following him, what their intentions were, etc.

So I have to ask, if someone was following you home, and it was clear, and you had no idea as to why, what would you do? You already took off and ran, thinking you lost the pursuer, but he still found you again. There's no indication that he will call off his pursuit, even if you get to your house. The mystery factor of Zimmerman is definitely something to be considered in this case. He never identified himself or anything. Martin didn't have a clue what Zimmerman's intentions were at all. He could have been a serial killer for all he knew, because the creepiness was certainly there.

It's like the old gun owner adage goes, when the cops are minutes away, every second counts. Would you do anything different than Martin in this situation, especially being unarmed? I mean, if I had a gun in the house, I know I'd make my way home ASAP, but if it I don't and this creepy guy keeps following me (in a car no less) there's nothing stopping him from taking me out at any second. Might as well get the drop on him. And once that happens, seeing that the guy has a gun, I ask again, would you keep wailing on him? Because if you stop, there's really nothing stopping the other guy getting up and shooting him.

All I'm saying is that, before we judge Martin, regardless of whether or not started the actual altercation, let's not pretend we wouldn't act in at least a similar way, given the circumstances.

First, we don't know if Martin knew if Zimmerman had a gun or not.
Secondly, we don't know if Zimmerman ID'd himself or not.

Finally, look at it this way....
No matter the situation, If a 6'1 220 lb kid in his "late teens" punched you in the face, broke your nose, and started bang your head on the ground (according to one alleged witness), would you be in fear for your life and pull your gun out and shoot the guy?

Baldy, I would fear for my life if the situation described above happened to me...and if that's all that happened to Zimmerman, I'd be behind him 100%...

But he did not back off...he kept following when he didn't have to...and he ended up putting himself in a dangerous position...

The "Stand your ground" law is not an open ended law...it has limits...

If you are n a car accident, and get out of your car and rush up to yell at the other driver..a.and that driver gets out of his car with a baseball bat, you DO NOT hAve the legal protection to pull a gun "in self defense"...because you instigated the aggression ...

On the other hand, if after the accident, the other driver gets out of his car and starts coming at you with a baseball bat, you can legally pull your weapon, and if he is dumb enough to keep approaching, you can defend yourself...

IMHO, Zimmerman screwed up...

Now, for all the racists who have turned this into a racial circus...I have no use for them....

[Skjellyfetti]

Over the last 48 hours, there has been a sustained effort to smear Trayvon Martin, the 17-year old African-American who was shot dead by George Zimmerman a month ago. Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, “They killed my son, now they’re trying to kill his reputation.”

Thus far these attacks have fallen into two categories: false and irrelevant. Much of this leaked information seems intended to play into stereotypes about young African-American males. Here’s what everyone should know:

1. Prominent conservative websites published fake photos of Martin. Twitchy, a new website run by prominent conservative blogger Michelle Malkin, promoted a photo — purportedly from Martin’s Facebook page — that shows Martin in saggy pants and flipping the bird. The photo, which spread quickly on conservative websites and Twitter, is intended to paint Martin as a thug. As Twitchy later acknowledged, it is not a photo of Trayvon Martin. [Examiner]

2. The Sanford Police selectively leaked irrelevant, negative information about Martin. The authorities told the Orlando Sentinel this morning that Trayvon was suspended from school for ten days “after being found with an empty marijuana baggie.” There is no evidence that Martin was under the influence of drugs at the time of his death, nor would prior possession of marijuana be a reason for killing him. It’s unclear what the relevance of the leak was, other than to smear Martin. [Orlando Sentinel]

3. On Fox News, Geraldo said that Martin was dressed “like a wannabe gangster.” Bill O’Reilly agreed with him. The sole evidence is that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Geraldo added that “everyone that ever stuck up a convenience store” was wearing a hoodie. [ThinkProgress; The Blaze]

4. Without any evidence, prominent right-wing bloggers suggested that Martin was a drug dealer. Right-wing blogger Dan Riehl advances the theory, also advanced in a widely linked peice on a site called Wagist. There does not appear to be any evidence to support this claim whatsoever. [Riehl World View]

5. Without any evidence, a right-wing columnist alleged that Martin assaulted a bus driver. Unlike Zimmerman, Trayvon has no documented history of violence. This allegation continues to be advanced by a blogger on the Examiner even after the real reason was leaked to the police and confirmed by the family. [Miami Herald; Examiner]

6. Zimmerman’s friend says Martin was to blame because he was disrespectful to Zimmerman. Zimmerman’s friend Joe Oliver said that Martin would not have been shot to death if Trayvon had just said “I’m staying with my parents.” Of course, Zimmerman was not a police officer, and Trayvon had no duty to tell him who he was or where he was going. [NBC News]

The final part of the effort to smear Trayvon Martin is to link him and his supporters to irresponsible fringe groups like the New Black Panthers and marginal provocateurs like Louis Farrakhan. Threats by these groups are serious and should be investigated, but they have nothing to do with Martin or his supporters. The leader of the effort to associate Martin with these groups is Matt Drudge. You can see how he is framing the story today here.

Ultimately, whether Martin was a perfect person is irrelevant to whether Zimmerman’s conduct that night was justified. Clearly, there are two different versions of the events that transpired on February 26, the night Trayvon was killed. There are conflicting statements by witnesses and conflicting evidence as to who was the aggressor.

Zimmerman has the right to tell his side of the story. But his opportunity to do this will come in a court of law after he is charged and arrested. In the meantime, Zimmerman’s supporters should stop trying to smear the reputation of a dead, 17-year-old boy.

[AZGrizFan]

Double down on that.

Reminds me of egriz.

[Bronco]

-
Coming soon...violent attacks on random white people...bet ya

NORTH MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -
North Miami Beach police said surveillance video shows dozens of high school students demonstrating in the Trayvon Martin case Friday ransacking a Walgreens store.

The incident occurred during a walkout from North Miami Beach Senior High School in support of Martin, 17, who was fatally shot in Sanford. Protesters have been calling for the arrest of George Zimmerman, 28, who has not been charged because he claimed self-defense in the shooting, according to police.

WATCH: Surveillance video at link
http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Tray ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Grizalltheway]

Double down on that.

Reminds me of egriz.

Oh Jesus...officially time to shut this puppy down.

[Baldy]

First, we don't know if Martin knew if Zimmerman had a gun or not.
Secondly, we don't know if Zimmerman ID'd himself or not.

Finally, look at it this way....
No matter the situation, If a 6'1 220 lb kid in his "late teens" punched you in the face, broke your nose, and started bang your head on the ground (according to one alleged witness), would you be in fear for your life and pull your gun out and shoot the guy?

Baldy, I would fear for my life if the situation described above happened to me...and if that's all that happened to Zimmerman, I'd be behind him 100%...

But he did not back off...he kept following when he didn't have to...and he ended up putting himself in a dangerous position...

The "Stand your ground" law is not an open ended law...it has limits...

If you are n a car accident, and get out of your car and rush up to yell at the other driver..a.and that driver gets out of his car with a baseball bat, you DO NOT hAve the legal protection to pull a gun "in self defense"...because you instigated the aggression ...

On the other hand, if after the accident, the other driver gets out of his car and starts coming at you with a baseball bat, you can legally pull your weapon, and if he is dumb enough to keep approaching, you can defend yourself...

IMHO, Zimmerman screwed up...

Now, for all the racists who have turned this into a racial circus...I have no use for them....

Totally agree.

However, from what I've read so far, all we know is that Zimmerman was following Martin. As creepy as following him is, IF Martin started the confrontation, Stand Your Ground could apply, especially IF Zimmerman was retreating to his vehicle.

Unlike the lynch mob media, I'm gonna wait until all the info comes out before I formulate an opinion,

[BDKJMU]

Over the last 48 hours, there has been a sustained effort to smear Trayvon Martin, the 17-year old African-American who was shot dead by George Zimmerman a month ago. Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, “They killed my son, now they’re trying to kill his reputation.”

Thus far these attacks have fallen into two categories: false and irrelevant. Much of this leaked information seems intended to play into stereotypes about young African-American males. Here’s what everyone should know:

1. Prominent conservative websites published fake photos of Martin. Twitchy, a new website run by prominent conservative blogger Michelle Malkin, promoted a photo — purportedly from Martin’s Facebook page — that shows Martin in saggy pants and flipping the bird. The photo, which spread quickly on conservative websites and Twitter, is intended to paint Martin as a thug. As Twitchy later acknowledged, it is not a photo of Trayvon Martin. [Examiner]

2. The Sanford Police selectively leaked irrelevant, negative information about Martin. The authorities told the Orlando Sentinel this morning that Trayvon was suspended from school for ten days “after being found with an empty marijuana baggie.” There is no evidence that Martin was under the influence of drugs at the time of his death, nor would prior possession of marijuana be a reason for killing him. It’s unclear what the relevance of the leak was, other than to smear Martin. [Orlando Sentinel]

3. On Fox News, Geraldo said that Martin was dressed “like a wannabe gangster.” Bill O’Reilly agreed with him. The sole evidence is that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Geraldo added that “everyone that ever stuck up a convenience store” was wearing a hoodie. [ThinkProgress; The Blaze]

4. Without any evidence, prominent right-wing bloggers suggested that Martin was a drug dealer. Right-wing blogger Dan Riehl advances the theory, also advanced in a widely linked peice on a site called Wagist. There does not appear to be any evidence to support this claim whatsoever. [Riehl World View]

5. Without any evidence, a right-wing columnist alleged that Martin assaulted a bus driver. Unlike Zimmerman, Trayvon has no documented history of violence. This allegation continues to be advanced by a blogger on the Examiner even after the real reason was leaked to the police and confirmed by the family. [Miami Herald; Examiner]

6. Zimmerman’s friend says Martin was to blame because he was disrespectful to Zimmerman. Zimmerman’s friend Joe Oliver said that Martin would not have been shot to death if Trayvon had just said “I’m staying with my parents.” Of course, Zimmerman was not a police officer, and Trayvon had no duty to tell him who he was or where he was going. [NBC News]

The final part of the effort to smear Trayvon Martin is to link him and his supporters to irresponsible fringe groups like the New Black Panthers and marginal provocateurs like Louis Farrakhan. Threats by these groups are serious and should be investigated, but they have nothing to do with Martin or his supporters. The leader of the effort to associate Martin with these groups is Matt Drudge. You can see how he is framing the story today here.

Ultimately, whether Martin was a perfect person is irrelevant to whether Zimmerman’s conduct that night was justified. Clearly, there are two different versions of the events that transpired on February 26, the night Trayvon was killed. There are conflicting statements by witnesses and conflicting evidence as to who was the aggressor.

Zimmerman has the right to tell his side of the story. But his opportunity to do this will come in a court of law after he is charged and arrested. In the meantime, Zimmerman’s supporters should stop trying to smear the reputation of a dead, 17-year-old boy.

I see you conviently neglected to include the link to whatever left wing site you got this from

[BDKJMU]

-
Coming soon...violent attacks on random white people...bet ya

NORTH MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -
North Miami Beach police said surveillance video shows dozens of high school students demonstrating in the Trayvon Martin case Friday ransacking a Walgreens store.

The incident occurred during a walkout from North Miami Beach Senior High School in support of Martin, 17, who was fatally shot in Sanford. Protesters have been calling for the arrest of George Zimmerman, 28, who has not been charged because he claimed self-defense in the shooting, according to police.

WATCH: Surveillance video at link
http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Tray ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not that they should be attacking anybody, but if they are, they could at least get the race right and attack hispanics, since this case involves a hispanic and a black.

[BDKJMU]

Zimmerman friend: Shooting not a racial incident
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162- ... -incident/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

And look at who are flanking Trayvon's grieving parents, Jesse Hymietown Jackson and Al Tawanna Brawley Sharpton.



As soon as these 2 clowns got involved I knew that there was almost zero chance that this ends well. These 2 race baiters never let a crisis go to waste.

[grizzaholic]

Reminds me of egriz.

Oh Jesus...officially time to shut this puppy down.

Mr. T will be locking this thread soon.

[JohnStOnge]

If you are n a car accident, and get out of your car and rush up to yell at the other driver..a.and that driver gets out of his car with a baseball bat, you DO NOT hAve the legal protection to pull a gun "in self defense"...because you instigated the aggression ...

Are you sure about that? I mean with respect to the Florida law involved. I am not familiar with it. But in general I would think that if someone is advancing at you with a potentially fatal weapon you're in a "self defense" situation whether you yelled at him or not.

While trying to remember that just about ANYTHING I see/hear in the media is probably distorted I'm fairly confident that Zimmerman did the wrong thing in that he suspected the victim of being something he wasn't, followed him, etc. But one account I've heard is the one where he was walking back to his truck, the victim approached him and asked, "Do you have a problem?" Then the account is that when he said "No" the victim said "Well you do now" and sucker punched him. Then he got on top of him and started beating his head on the concrete.

If that is substantially true then in my opinion it's hard to say the guy wasn't in a "self defense" situation at that point regardless of the fact that he's the one that created the circumstance. When it comes right down to it, if that account is accurate, he never physically attacked the victim. Instead, the victim physically attacked him.

[BDKJMU]

Spike Lee is going to get some an innocent elderly couple killed that have NOTHING to do with Zimmerman
"Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet
Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

The original tweet was sent to Lee (and numerous other celebrities like Will Smith, 50 Cent, and LeBron James) last Friday afternoon by Marcus Davonne Higgins, a 33-year-old Los Angeles man who uses the online handle “maccapone.” Higgins included the direction, “EVERYBODY REPOST THIS.”

Higgins, pictured at right, first began disseminating the Sanford address to his Twitter followers last Wednesday, including the claim that Zimmerman “Like the fat punk he is, he still lives at home with mommie & daddy.” In a simultaneous post to his Facebook wall, Higgins told his 4000 friends, “FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT & TOUCH HIM.” He also claimed in another post that, “REAL TALK MY PEOPLE OUT THERE IN FLORIDA JUST TOLD ME GEORGE ZIMMERMAN IS NOT AT HIS HOUSE THEY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.”

Higgins’s dissemination of Zimmerman’s purported Edgewater Circle address was not, however, limited to cyberspace. At a protest rally last Thursday in an L.A. park near his Crenshaw home, Higgins held a sign containing Zimmerman’s name, address, and phone number.

Except, of course, none were accurate.

The man who shot Martin is George Michael Zimmerman. Higgins has repeatedly identified him as “George W. Zimmerman.”

The residence on Edgewater Circle is actually the home of David McClain, 72, and his wife Elaine, 70. The McClains, both of whom work for the Seminole County school system, have lived in the 1310-square-foot lakefront home for about a decade, records show.

In an interview tonight, Elaine McClain told TSG that she and her husband were “afraid” due to the online linking of her address to Zimmerman. “We're keeping everything locked,” she said. McClain added that the couple was particularly unnerved by a letter mailed to them at their home. On the envelope, she said, were printed the words “Taste The Rainbow,” the slogan for Skittles. Martin was carrying a pack of Skittles and a can of ice tea when he was gunned down by Zimmerman.

McClain said her husband returned the envelope unopened to the post office.

The McClains only became aware that their address was being widely circulated online two days ago, when a TV reporter arrived at their home asking for “George.” Bewildered by their sudden--and erroneous--connection to Martin’s killer, the elderly couple’s distress can only be heightened by posts made by Twitter and Facebook users who threaten to visit their residence in search of Zimmerman. Or other posts that goad followers to vigilante action.

Higgins has not responded to numerous TSG messages, so it is unknown where he came up with the information tying Zimmerman to the McClains's home. A check of Zimmerman’s residential history shows no connection to the Edgewater Circle property, which is about four miles from his actual home in Sanford.

So how did Higgins screw things up?

Besides overlooking the different middle initial, perhaps that answer is connected to an old voter record for a “William George Zimmerman” at the Edgewater Circle property. That registration, which dates back to 1995, is for a 41-year-old man. The Zimmerman who shot Martin is 28.

Elaine McClain identified William George Zimmerman as her son, noting that he has not lived at the Edgewater Circle residence for seven years. “He is six-foot-five and thin as a rail,” McClain said of her son, who now lives elsewhere in Seminole County. McClain said she was previously married to a man named Zimmerman, but that he was not related in any fashion to the Zimmerman who shot Martin.

When told that Twitter posts containing her address continued to pour in this evening, an exasperated Elaine McClain remarked, “Maybe we should get a lawyer and send a cease and desist letter to Spike Lee.” (6 pages)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/ ... eet-567891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[89Hen]

Persistently. That would suggest he tailed him until the confrontation. Witnesses have him back at his SUV before the altercation. We don't know when he stopped following him.

Considering he called, what, 37 times? And that Martin noticed him following him and felt threatened or uncomfortable enough to take off running.....only for Zimmerman to come find him again.

If that's not persistent enough, I don't know what is.

Called who 37 times? 911 on that night? I'm not sure that's correct. Again, I don't know if Martin ran from him or came back after him. Do you?

All I'm saying is you are stating things as fact that aren't. I think the facts we know are very limited.

[kalm]

I think YT is confusing the day of the incident with how many times Zimmerman called 911 in the previous year which I think was somewhere in the 40's.

Fact: Sanford police requested a warrant for homicide/negligent manslaugher.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 84301.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;