Another Solyndra

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I am 100% behind any alternative that is cheaper and sustainable. The bottom line is, if it isn't cheaper, we aren't going to do it. Falsely making it cheaper isn't going to help it along. Let a technology stand on it's own and the one that is cheapest and best will prevail. Right now fossil fuel is the cheapest and will be for a while. We will really see some stuff come out when the cost ratio's meet.

[kalm]

I am 100% behind any alternative that is cheaper and sustainable. The bottom line is, if it isn't cheaper, we aren't going to do it. Falsely making it cheaper isn't going to help it along. Let a technology stand on it's own and the one that is cheapest and best will prevail. Right now fossil fuel is the cheapest and will be for a while. We will really see some stuff come out when the cost ratio's meet.

That's part of the problem. Fossil fuel doesn't stand on it's own.

[BDKJMU]

the country gets a return on its oil investment
Not sure who benefits besides the reelect the president campaign on these green boondoggles

Those that hate oil and love the battery cars need to put your money where your mouth is and support Govt Motors and by a Volt
They need your help

That's me!! I can firmly tell you I have purchased my LAST 100% gasoline powered automobile. When time rolls around for my next car it'll be an electric or hydrogen, or at least a hybrid. Join the fight against Big Oil! I'm in, who's with me?

F that. Will never buy anything that I drive less than a full size pickup or SUV, 4x4, that ain't 100% gas or diesel powered.

[Grizalltheway]

That's me!! I can firmly tell you I have purchased my LAST 100% gasoline powered automobile. When time rolls around for my next car it'll be an electric or hydrogen, or at least a hybrid. Join the fight against Big Oil! I'm in, who's with me?

F that. Will never buy anything that I drive less than a full size pickup or SUV, 4x4, that ain't 100% gas or diesel powered.

Hey, whatever it takes to make your way around the rugged strip malls and freeways of the Philly burbs.

[BDKJMU]

And the list keeps growing.

"Solar company bankrupt despite 'win-win' DOE loan

In keeping with the recent trend of so-called green companies going into the red, another solar energy company supported by President Obama's top administration officials declared bankruptcy today.

Solar Trust for America received $2.1 billion in conditional loan guarantees from the Department of Energy -- "the largest amount ever offered to a solar project," according to Energy Secretary Steven Chu -- for a project near Blythe, Calif., but declared bankruptcy within a year. It is unclear how much of the guarantee, if any, was actually awarded.

Senior officials in Obama's administration had very high hopes for the Blythe project. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar attended the groundbreaking ceremony, which he described as "a historic moment in America’s new energy frontier" and "another important step in making America’s clean energy future a reality." Chu trumpeted at the time that Solar Trust would prove that "when we rev up the great American innovation machine, we can out-compete any other nation."

The embarrassment should be bipartisan. "This is a huge milestone for our community," Rep. Mary Bono Mack, R-Calif., said when the company received its loan guarantee. "I look forward to continuing my work supporting projects . . . that will harness our local energy resources and help reduce our nation’s dangerous dependence on unstable foreign oil.”

Uwe Schmidt, chairman and CEO of the company, also argued that Solar Trust was good for the nation. He wrote last year that "the DOE loan guarantee is a 'win-win' for government and the companies involved and will not only advance the cause of energy independence but will create hundreds of thousands of jobs across the country."

The bankruptcy makes Schmidt's attempt to rebuke DOE critics in the wake of the Solyndra bankruptcy particuarly ironic.

"Despite the posturing and finger pointing, the American solar energy industry is alive and well," Schmidt wrote in an op-ed for the Huffington Post, before discussing his company's business plans. Referring to Solyndra, he lamented that "one company's bankruptcy has cast doubt on the credibility of a government program that is otherwise being administered with incredible efficiency."

The list of bankrupt solar companies has grown since Schmidt scolded Solyndra investigators. How many more might go bankrupt? Secretary Chu won't say."

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[Cap'n Cat]

Solyndra. Nice try, Conks. Truth is, the place was probably run by money-hungry Conklodytes who ran it into the grand funding their bonuses and not reinvesting in the business. Better their daughters go to Arizona State in that Mercedes than a Dodge.

[CitadelGrad]

Solyndra. Nice try, Conks. Truth is, the place was probably run by money-hungry Conklodytes who ran it into the grand funding their bonuses and not reinvesting in the business. Better their daughters go to Arizona State in that Mercedes than a Dodge.

You're right about the bonuses, but they were Obama supporters and contributors. How else do you think they got the "stimulus" funds? Obama only gave that shit to his cronies.

[D1B]

Solyndra. Nice try, Conks. Truth is, the place was probably run by money-hungry Conklodytes who ran it into the grand funding their bonuses and not reinvesting in the business. Better their daughters go to Arizona State in that Mercedes than a Dodge.

You're right about the bonuses, but they were Obama supporters and contributors. How else do you think they got the "stimulus" funds? Obama only gave that shit to his cronies.

Yeah, first thing he does in office is give billions to campaign supporters.

You're a racist piece of shit.

[Bronco]

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If you don't know what has been going on your head is in the sand
the voting public will be informed this summer...can't wait

Open Thread: More Crony Capitalism Disguised as 'Green' Jobs
By NB Staff | February 15, 2012 | 10:48

Today's starter topic: The so-called green jobs industries that President Obama loves to tout so often have already been suspected of being riddled with insider dealings and conflicts of interest. More word of this came out yesterday when the Washington Post revealed (only in a blog post so far) that nearly $4 billion in federal money has gone to companies directly connected to Obama Administration bureaucrats. For all the anger and hysteria promoted by the left over Halliburton, this is starting to seem far worse:

Overall, the Post found that $3.9 billion in federal grants and financing flowed to 21 companies backed by firms with connections to five Obama administration staffers and advisers.

Obama’s program to invest federal funds in start-up companies — and the failure of some of those companies — is becoming a rallying cry for opponents in the presidential race. Mitt Romney has promised to focus on Obama’s “record” as a “venture capitalist.” And in ads and speeches, conservative groups and the Republican candidates are zeroing in on the administration’s decision to extend $535 million to the now-shuttered solar firm Solyndra and billions of dollars more to clean-tech start-ups backed by the president’s political allies.
White House officials stress that staffers and advisers with venture capital ties did not make funding decisions related to these companies. But e-mails released in a congressional probe of Obama’s clean-tech program show that staff and advisers with links to venture firms informally advocated for some of those companies.

David Gold, a venture capitalist and critic of Obama’s investments in clean tech, said that even if staffers had been removed from the final decision-making, they had the kind of inside access to exert subtle influence.

“To believe those quiet conversations don’t happen in the hallways — about a project being in a certain congressman’s district or being associated with a significant presidential donor, is naive,” said Gold, who once worked at the Office of Management and Budget. “When you’re putting this kind of pressure on an organization to make decisions on very big dollars, there’s increased likelihood that political connections will influence things.”


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[Cap'n Cat]

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If you don't know what has been going on your head is in the sand
the voting public will be informed this summer...can't wait

Open Thread: More Crony Capitalism Disguised as 'Green' Jobs
By NB Staff | February 15, 2012 | 10:48

Today's starter topic: The so-called green jobs industries that President Obama loves to tout so often have already been suspected of being riddled with insider dealings and conflicts of interest. More word of this came out yesterday when the Washington Post revealed (only in a blog post so far) that nearly $4 billion in federal money has gone to companies directly connected to Obama Administration bureaucrats. For all the anger and hysteria promoted by the left over Halliburton, this is starting to seem far worse:

Overall, the Post found that $3.9 billion in federal grants and financing flowed to 21 companies backed by firms with connections to five Obama administration staffers and advisers.

Obama’s program to invest federal funds in start-up companies — and the failure of some of those companies — is becoming a rallying cry for opponents in the presidential race. Mitt Romney has promised to focus on Obama’s “record” as a “venture capitalist.” And in ads and speeches, conservative groups and the Republican candidates are zeroing in on the administration’s decision to extend $535 million to the now-shuttered solar firm Solyndra and billions of dollars more to clean-tech start-ups backed by the president’s political allies.
White House officials stress that staffers and advisers with venture capital ties did not make funding decisions related to these companies. But e-mails released in a congressional probe of Obama’s clean-tech program show that staff and advisers with links to venture firms informally advocated for some of those companies.

David Gold, a venture capitalist and critic of Obama’s investments in clean tech, said that even if staffers had been removed from the final decision-making, they had the kind of inside access to exert subtle influence.

“To believe those quiet conversations don’t happen in the hallways — about a project being in a certain congressman’s district or being associated with a significant presidential donor, is naive,” said Gold, who once worked at the Office of Management and Budget. “When you’re putting this kind of pressure on an organization to make decisions on very big dollars, there’s increased likelihood that political connections will influence things.”


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2 ... z1mT29vxLc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Man, Broncky, it just pisses you off that Conks can't touch Obama, huh?

[Ivytalk]

Fisker has announced that it may not build cars in DE after all. Now there's a big fucking surprise.

The governor and his henchmen are apoplectic.