Kyle Padron to transfer to EWU

sioux24/7 · Post by **sioux24/7** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:31 pm

Padron is such a good pick up.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:00 pm

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@SMU - 23 Games: 446/709 (63%) 41TDs/21INTs, 5902 yds

And he'll be slinging to 6'3, 6'3, and 6'5 WRs who have a combined 4,847 yds and 52 TDs over the last two years.

Eat your heart out Griz fans.

Darell1976 · Post by **Darell1976** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:03 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Padron: 446/709 (63%) 41TDs/21INTs, 5902 yds

And he'll be slinging to 6'3, 6'3, and 6'5 WRs who have a combined 4,847 yds and 52 TDs over the last two years.

Eat your heart out Griz fans.

Looks like our secondary will have their hands full with this guy.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:09 pm

Darell1976 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Padron: 446/709 (63%) 41TDs/21INTs, 5902 yds

And he'll be slinging to 6'3, 6'3, and 6'5 WRs who have a combined 4,847 yds and 52 TDs over the last two years.

Eat your heart out Griz fans.
Looks like our secondary will have their hands full with this guy.

Just looked up his rushing stats... he also likes to keep it near the goaline if nobody's open... 7 TDs on the ground in the 23 games he's played in.

Darell1976 · Post by **Darell1976** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:40 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Darell1976 wrote:
Looks like our secondary will have their hands full with this guy.
Just looked up his rushing stats... he also likes to keep it near the goaline if nobody's open... 7 TDs on the ground in the 23 games he's played in.

A duel threat is nice to have in a QB. If the pass gets shut down he can get yards with his feet.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:17 pm

Darell1976 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Just looked up his rushing stats... he also likes to keep it near the goaline if nobody's open... 7 TDs on the ground in the 23 games he's played in.
A duel threat is nice to have in a QB. If the pass gets shut down he can get yards with his feet.

I wouldn't quite call him a dual threat except for in goal line situations where a 6'4 230lb frame can punch it in. He's definitely mobile though and can throw on the run.

Darell1976 · Post by **Darell1976** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:58 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Darell1976 wrote:
A duel threat is nice to have in a QB. If the pass gets shut down he can get yards with his feet.
I wouldn't quite call him a dual threat except for in goal line situations where a 6'4 230lb frame can punch it in. He's definitely mobile though and can throw on the run.

Not quite a Michael Vick but if you can have a mobile QB that limits sacks and keeps defenses on their heels.

Post by **SDHornet** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:33 pm

SloStang wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
Pretty sure UM has had more transfer Qb's. It just seems like we've had more because ours have been better.

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I have to laugh when someone from Montana calls out another school on transfers. Montana has at least one every year and more than a few at QB.

Pulling in FBS transfers who can have an immediate impact is one of the advantages to being in FCS. Why an FCS HC wouldn’t exploit this advantage is beyond me.

I’m sure most every FCS team has an FBS transfer somewhere on their roster. I don’t know why any FCS fans would call out other FCS programs for exploiting this advantage.

BigSkyBears · Post by **BigSkyBears** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:15 pm

SDHornet wrote:
SloStang wrote: I have to laugh when someone from Montana calls out another school on transfers. Montana has at least one every year and more than a few at QB.
Pulling in FBS transfers who can have an immediate impact is one of the advantages to being in FCS. Why an FCS HC wouldn’t exploit this advantage is beyond me.

I’m sure most every FCS team has an FBS transfer somewhere on their roster. I don’t know why any FCS fans would call out other FCS programs for exploiting this advantage.

Someone should do a thread ranking the 'Sky QB's, going into spring camp. I'm not familiar enough with everyone's returning Qb's otherwise I would myself.

Post by **EWURanger** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:32 pm

I posted something similar on egriz, but I'm not averse to transfers at all as long as they're not bringing in a load of baggage, don't have "entitlement" issues, and are willing to compete and represent the program well. Some are perhaps high-risk/high-reward, but sometimes you gotta roll the dice. The nice thing about transfers is that you can assess their potential somewhat based on what they have done against FBS competition, as opposed to HS kids where talent doesn't always translate to the D1 level.

You look at a program like UD, who gets a lot of flak for the transfer Qb's they've had. I say "so what"? It's hard to argue with the results.

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Post by **EWURanger** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:36 pm

BigSkyBears wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Pulling in FBS transfers who can have an immediate impact is one of the advantages to being in FCS. Why an FCS HC wouldn’t exploit this advantage is beyond me.

I’m sure most every FCS team has an FBS transfer somewhere on their roster. I don’t know why any FCS fans would call out other FCS programs for exploiting this advantage.
Someone should do a thread ranking the 'Sky QB's, going into spring camp. I'm not familiar enough with everyone's returning Qb's otherwise I would myself.

I'd have to look as well, but off the top of my head I've have to say Brad Sorenson from SUU and Denarius McGhee from MSU are probably the top two. Jordan Johnson is good in his own right; a very good runner if not great arm strength. But UM's offense doesn't really require him to make a lot of difficult throws.

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Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:37 pm

BigSkyBears wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Pulling in FBS transfers who can have an immediate impact is one of the advantages to being in FCS. Why an FCS HC wouldn’t exploit this advantage is beyond me.

I’m sure most every FCS team has an FBS transfer somewhere on their roster. I don’t know why any FCS fans would call out other FCS programs for exploiting this advantage.
Someone should do a thread ranking the 'Sky QB's, going into spring camp. I'm not familiar enough with everyone's returning Qb's otherwise I would myself.

Good call.

I'm sure Mvem would know more and do a better job, but here's my stab at it:

1. Brad Sorensen - SUU
2. Kyle Padon - EWU*
3a. DeNarius McGhee - MSU
3b. Jordan Johnson - UM
5. Mike Hoke - WSU
6. Seth Lobato - UNC
7-13: No clue.

*Padron won't be on campus for Spring Ball.

sioux24/7 · Post by **sioux24/7** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
BigSkyBears wrote:
Someone should do a thread ranking the 'Sky QB's, going into spring camp. I'm not familiar enough with everyone's returning Qb's otherwise I would myself.
Good call.

I'm sure Mvem would know more and do a better job, but here's my stab at it:

1. Brad Sorensen - SUU
2. Kyle Padon - EWU*
3a. DeNarius McGhee - MSU
3b. Jordan Johnson - UM
5. Mike Hoke - WSU
6. Seth Lobato - UNC
7-13: No clue.

*Padron won't be on campus for Spring Ball.

I would like to see Braden Hanson somewhere on that list but it is understandable because he has yet to prove himself at the college level. Pretty tough when you get caught behind an NFL starter in the playoffs (TJ Yates) and then a kid who is supposedly better than Yates. I guess we will find out what Hanson is made of this coming year.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:27 pm

sioux24/7 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Good call.

I'm sure Mvem would know more and do a better job, but here's my stab at it:

1. Brad Sorensen - SUU
2. Kyle Padon - EWU*
3a. DeNarius McGhee - MSU
3b. Jordan Johnson - UM
5. Mike Hoke - WSU
6. Seth Lobato - UNC
7-13: No clue.

*Padron won't be on campus for Spring Ball.
I would like to see Braden Hanson somewhere on that list but it is understandable because he has yet to prove himself at the college level. Pretty tough when you get caught behind an NFL starter in the playoffs (TJ Yates) and then a kid who is supposedly better than Yates. I guess we will find out what Hanson is made of this coming year.

He was on that list; 7-13.

I'm sure he'll likely be in the top half, but like you said he hasn't played, and I've certainly never seen him play. I just went on who I've seen. The Cal Poly QB would likely be in the top 6 or 7 as well, but haven't seen much of him. Fleming from Sac would be in there but I think he graduated?

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:03 am

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Good call.

I'm sure Mvem would know more and do a better job, but here's my stab at it:

1. Brad Sorensen - SUU
2. Kyle Padon - EWU*
3a. DeNarius McGhee - MSU
3b. Jordan Johnson - UM
5. Mike Hoke - WSU
6. Seth Lobato - UNC
7-13: No clue.

*Padron won't be on campus for Spring Ball.

You forgot about Grossart of NAU. He led the Big Sky in efficiency, though he took way too many sacks & I don't think he was as good as the rating (too much all-or-nothing).

I think Jordan Johnson has the most potential. He's definitely the most versatile.

McGhee was great out of the box, but I think he may have peaked. He seemed like a polished senior right away, but I'm not sure there's much room for improvement. Last year also showed that he needs a decent running game to be successful.

PSU & Sac have nothing but question marks, and Kevin Yost's abilities won't really matter if ISU's O-line doesn't improve greatly.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:04 am

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Good call.

I'm sure Mvem would know more and do a better job, but here's my stab at it:

1. Brad Sorensen - SUU
2. Kyle Padon - EWU*
3a. DeNarius McGhee - MSU
3b. Jordan Johnson - UM
5. Mike Hoke - WSU
6. Seth Lobato - UNC
7-13: No clue.

*Padron won't be on campus for Spring Ball.
You forgot about Grossart of NAU. He led the Big Sky in efficiency, though he took way too many sacks & I don't think he was as good as the rating (too much all-or-nothing).

I think Jordan Johnson has the most potential. He's definitely the most versatile.

McGhee was great out of the box, but I think he may have peaked. He seemed like a polished senior right away, but I'm not sure there's much room for improvement. Last year also showed that he needs a decent running game to be successful.

PSU & Sac have nothing but question marks, and Kevin Yost's abilities won't really matter if ISU's O-line doesn't improve greatly.

I don't remember if it was Grossart or the backup that played for NAU against us, but he was good. Hell of a game to have to listen to with an earbud while at work.

How would you rank all the QBs though?

Darell1976 · Post by **Darell1976** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:32 am

sioux24/7 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Good call.

I'm sure Mvem would know more and do a better job, but here's my stab at it:

1. Brad Sorensen - SUU
2. Kyle Padon - EWU*
3a. DeNarius McGhee - MSU
3b. Jordan Johnson - UM
5. Mike Hoke - WSU
6. Seth Lobato - UNC
7-13: No clue.

*Padron won't be on campus for Spring Ball.
I would like to see Braden Hanson somewhere on that list but it is understandable because he has yet to prove himself at the college level. Pretty tough when you get caught behind an NFL starter in the playoffs (TJ Yates) and then a kid who is supposedly better than Yates. I guess we will find out what Hanson is made of this coming year.

Hanson although has only 1 year of eligibility (transfer from North Carolina) isn't the automatic starter. He has to go throught the process like Joey Bradley (Jr), Chris Comes (Fr..he redshirted last season), Marcus Hendrickson (Sr.) and then Braden Hanson (Sr.). I am sure our QB of the future Joe Mollberg will be redshirted this season.

Hambone · Post by **Hambone** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:04 pm

Darell1976 wrote: Hanson although has only 1 year of eligibility (transfer from North Carolina) isn't the automatic starter. He has to go throught the process like Joey Bradley (Jr), Chris Comes (Fr..he redshirted last season), Marcus Hendrickson (Sr.) and then Braden Hanson (Sr.). I am sure our QB of the future Joe Mollberg will be redshirted this season.

One quick correction - Comes is a Sophomore this year. He was a RS FR last year.

sioux24/7 · Post by **sioux24/7** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:44 pm

Darell1976 wrote:
sioux24/7 wrote:
I would like to see Braden Hanson somewhere on that list but it is understandable because he has yet to prove himself at the college level. Pretty tough when you get caught behind an NFL starter in the playoffs (TJ Yates) and then a kid who is supposedly better than Yates. I guess we will find out what Hanson is made of this coming year.
Hanson although has only 1 year of eligibility (transfer from North Carolina) isn't the automatic starter. He has to go throught the process like Joey Bradley (Jr), Chris Comes (Fr..he redshirted last season), Marcus Hendrickson (Sr.) and then Braden Hanson (Sr.). I am sure our QB of the future Joe Mollberg will be redshirted this season.

If Hanson does not start I will be extremely disappointed. Bradley has no arm strength, I don't know anything about Comes other than I have not seen him take a snap, and Hendrickson is way to athletic to keep at QB. They need to use him somewhere else.

putter · Post by **putter** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
If my kid were a HS QB being recruited by EWU, there's no WAY I'd let him sign there unless it was the only offer he had. EWU = West Coast Delawhore.
Yeah, because Nichols and Meyer were transfers.

A griz fan should talk... UM is the West Coast Transfer U.

Not at QB....because most of the QB transfer UM has had were not worth the school. Drew Miller and Craig Ochs are the top 2 IMO. Every FCS teams takes drop downs, as was said before, that is one benefit of being FCS

SloStang · Post by **SloStang** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:21 pm

Cal Poly's QB Andre Broadous has a year and a half of starts under his belt. In 2011 he rushed for almost 800 yards (before sack yardage is taken out) and 18 TDs. He did not throw a lot, but was efficeint completing 60% of his passes for 1,235 yards with 9 TDs and only one INT (his only INT in 15 starts). In 2011 his top two WRs were a true freshman and a Rfr. I think you will see a lot of growth from both of them this coming year which will certainly help Broadous' passing numbers. Broadous is very good at running the triple option and getting the ball where it needs to go.

Post by **EWURanger** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:54 pm

SloStang wrote:Cal Poly's QB Andre Broadous has a year and a half of starts under his belt. In 2011 he rushed for almost 800 yards (before sack yardage is taken out) and 18 TDs. He did not throw a lot, but was efficeint completing 60% of his passes for 1,235 yards with 9 TDs and only one INT (his only INT in 15 starts). In 2011 his top two WRs were a true freshman and a Rfr. I think you will see a lot of growth from both of them this coming year which will certainly help Broadous' passing numbers. Broadous is very good at running the triple option and getting the ball where it needs to go.

You guys still got that FB? Romanelli I think it was?

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SloStang · Post by **SloStang** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:10 pm

EWURanger wrote:
SloStang wrote:Cal Poly's QB Andre Broadous has a year and a half of starts under his belt. In 2011 he rushed for almost 800 yards (before sack yardage is taken out) and 18 TDs. He did not throw a lot, but was efficeint completing 60% of his passes for 1,235 yards with 9 TDs and only one INT (his only INT in 15 starts). In 2011 his top two WRs were a true freshman and a Rfr. I think you will see a lot of growth from both of them this coming year which will certainly help Broadous' passing numbers. Broadous is very good at running the triple option and getting the ball where it needs to go.
You guys still got that FB? Romanelli I think it was?

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He was a senior. Kid was a stud. He had over 1,000 yards rushing last season and all were straight up the gut.

Post by **EWURanger** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:42 pm

SloStang wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
You guys still got that FB? Romanelli I think it was?

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He was a senior. Kid was a stud. He had over 1,000 yards rushing last season and all were straight up the gut.

Rare to get that kind of production out of a FB, even in the option. Big loss there.

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SloStang · Post by **SloStang** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:49 pm

EWURanger wrote:
SloStang wrote: He was a senior. Kid was a stud. He had over 1,000 yards rushing last season and all were straight up the gut.
Rare to get that kind of production out of a FB, even in the option. Big loss there.

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I agree it is a big loss.

We do have some potentially great players to step in and take over the position. One that I am excited about is Garrett Steele. Garrett was a RB as a Jr in high school. His senior year the starting QB broke his wrist in the first game and Garrett (who had never played QB) stepped in and did what no other California high school QB has ever done, he threw for over 2,000 yards and rushed for over 2,000 yards in the same season. He was named California Medium School Player of the Year. Garrett was a true freshman this year and redshirted. He is 6'1" 210 and I expect he will be over 220 next season.

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