Obama Earning Nobel Prize: RNK To Stop Nuke Testing

[SeattleGriz]

In case you've been asleep for the last 20 years-

It isn't the shoeless stunted population of the DRK we are dealing with. This is an issue of proliferation, not potential DRK aggression.

The DRK has been exporting its nuke tech to a lot of countries, including Iran. It is also interesting that you mention Pakistan, because that country has had a very special relationship with North Korea over ballistic missile and nuke weapons development.

We ARE getting played. every few years North Korea starts to beat the drums, and every time a new administration kowtows to them and offers food aid for a nuclear moratorium; food aid which NEVER goes to the DRK general population... it goes straight to the military and the political toadies of the Kim regime.

The reason we do this at all is because people understand intrinsically that North Korea sells its weapons technologies to anyone willing to pay for it, and in recent years that has been Syria, Iran, Pakistan and others.

And.. Obama IS being played, just like every President before him since the DRK has been a nuclear threat. If you think different, then how much money are you willing to put on North Korea honoring this latest "moratorium"?

All countries play all other countries all the time, we call it diplomacy. All countries keep their word for as long as it is in their interest to do so. North Korea will honor this moratorium until they decide it is in their interest not to. Syria, Iran, and Pakistan will continue to proliferate regardless of North Korea; Iran and Pakistan already are more advanced nuclearly than North Korea and will keep advancing their programs and increasing proliferation even if North Korea disappears tomorrow.

Obviously the trick is to find a way to bypass the NK government and get our food to the general population. Our aging B52 fleet is the answer. First we produce several hundred million kimchi MREs, then we begin distributing them via B-52 throughout the land. Everywhere. We carpet bomb the whole country with kimchi MREs to the point that any peasant walking through the countryside is bound to trip over them. Suddenly the populace is well fed and the government is irrelevant because the troops no longer have to serve in order to get a meal every day.

Just out of curiosity, what are basing the statement that Iran is more advanced than N Korea nuclearly? Not looking for tons of links, just quick overview. Had not heard that one before. Pakistan I can understand, but not Iran.

[GannonFan]

It's nice that North Korea is saying they are going to do this, but it was also nice all the other times they said they were going to do this before they eventually went back on their word. I certainly think we need to take this angle and try it over and over again, but let's not also pretend that this will finally be the time when North Korea keeps to their word. Whoever is Preseident 10-15 years from now will probably get the same aggreement from them after they break their word in another 5 years or so. It's pretty cyclical.

[Cap'n Cat]

It's nice that North Korea is saying they are going to do this, but it was also nice all the other times they said they were going to do this before they eventually went back on their word. I certainly think we need to take this angle and try it over and over again, but let's not also pretend that this will finally be the time when North Korea keeps to their word. Whoever is Preseident 10-15 years from now will probably get the same aggreement from them after they break their word in another 5 years or so. It's pretty cyclical.

You're probably right, Ganny. Obama and the US are taking the high road on this, though. We gotta somehow get it into the head of that fat ass kid in charge that the way they've been going ain't the way to proceed.

I'm hopeful. I'll bet there is a military coup there in the next couple years...maybe prodded by the CIA, but......

[Ivytalk]

It's nice that North Korea is saying they are going to do this, but it was also nice all the other times they said they were going to do this before they eventually went back on their word. I certainly think we need to take this angle and try it over and over again, but let's not also pretend that this will finally be the time when North Korea keeps to their word. Whoever is Preseident 10-15 years from now will probably get the same aggreement from them after they break their word in another 5 years or so. It's pretty cyclical.

GF, one classic definition of insanity is making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different result.

[Cap'n Cat]

It's nice that North Korea is saying they are going to do this, but it was also nice all the other times they said they were going to do this before they eventually went back on their word. I certainly think we need to take this angle and try it over and over again, but let's not also pretend that this will finally be the time when North Korea keeps to their word. Whoever is Preseident 10-15 years from now will probably get the same aggreement from them after they break their word in another 5 years or so. It's pretty cyclical.

GF, one classic definition of insanity is making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different result.

Hey, Cliche' Boy - whether it's for peace or some really hot ass, you just keep on workin' it until you get there, man!

[Ivytalk]

GF, one classic definition of insanity is making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different result.

Hey, Cliche' Boy - whether it's for peace or some really hot ass, you just keep on workin' it until you get there, man!

Thanks, Neville Chamberlain.

[Cap'n Cat]

Hey, Cliche' Boy - whether it's for peace or some really hot ass, you just keep on workin' it until you get there, man!

Thanks, Neville Chamberlain.

"Focking Capitalist pig food droppers! They forget my M ah M's!"

[grizzaholic]

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PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — North Korea announced plans Friday to blast a satellite into space on the back of a long-range rocket, a provocative move that could jeopardize a weeks-old agreement with the U.S. exchanging food aid for nuclear concessions.
The North agreed to a moratorium on long-range launches as part of the deal with Washington, but it argues that its satellite launches are part of a peaceful space program that is exempt from any international disarmament agreements. The U.S., South Korea and other critics say the rocket technology overlaps with belligerent uses and condemn the satellite program as a disguised way of testing military missiles in defiance of a U.N. ban.
The launch is to take place three years after a similar launch in April 2009 drew widespread censure.

[Ivytalk]

http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-says- ... 46009.html


PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — North Korea announced plans Friday to blast a satellite into space on the back of a long-range rocket, a provocative move that could jeopardize a weeks-old agreement with the U.S. exchanging food aid for nuclear concessions.
The North agreed to a moratorium on long-range launches as part of the deal with Washington, but it argues that its satellite launches are part of a peaceful space program that is exempt from any international disarmament agreements. The U.S., South Korea and other critics say the rocket technology overlaps with belligerent uses and condemn the satellite program as a disguised way of testing military missiles in defiance of a U.N. ban.
The launch is to take place three years after a similar launch in April 2009 drew widespread censure.

I hate it when I'm right.

[grizzaholic]

http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-says- ... 46009.html


PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — North Korea announced plans Friday to blast a satellite into space on the back of a long-range rocket, a provocative move that could jeopardize a weeks-old agreement with the U.S. exchanging food aid for nuclear concessions.
The North agreed to a moratorium on long-range launches as part of the deal with Washington, but it argues that its satellite launches are part of a peaceful space program that is exempt from any international disarmament agreements. The U.S., South Korea and other critics say the rocket technology overlaps with belligerent uses and condemn the satellite program as a disguised way of testing military missiles in defiance of a U.N. ban.
The launch is to take place three years after a similar launch in April 2009 drew widespread censure.

I hate it when I'm right.

Anyone who thought otherwise is an idiot.

[GannonFan]

Darn - normally they wait at least a year or two before going back on their word. And normally they aren't so brazen about it and tell us they're going back on their word (normally they just get caught). Well, at least they are consistently dishonest.