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Ivytalk wrote:
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Sure, but we're not talking about most people here. We're talking about how the argument is portrayed in the media, and Taibbi is spot-on with his assessment. Conks are way better and more organized in their demonization. It's now backfiring for them.
Taibbi is an azzhole. You think Pelosi is a saint, Schumer is Moses, and Obama is Gandhi. Poor deluded soul. Better buy a cheap indulgence from Brother D1B, S.J. (Society of Jerkoffs).
I can't stand any of the three you just mentioned. :coffee:

Taibbi is an asshole because he's right.

All you conks, running right like hell from your beautiful record of unity and organization. :rofl:
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kalm wrote:
Cluck U wrote:

Sure, but I'm amazingly consistent...I will also call someone an azzhole straight to their face. Call me a Libervative. :lol:

The point is that most Liberals do the same thing that most Conservatives do...attack anyone that opposes their views. They just try to convince themselves that they don't.
Sure, but we're not talking about most people here. We're talking about how the argument is portrayed in the media, and Taibbi is spot-on with his assessment. Conks are way better and more organized in their demonization. It's now backfiring for them.
I think you are living in the past. Sure, Conks had a big advantage in portraying the Libs as whackos...but things have more than evened out. Libs, who control most of the media...have finally learned to play dirty...and they revel in doing so. I agree with Joe in that the Libs wrongly portray themselves as the keepers of moral highground..."we are the world, we are the huddled masses"...and they dismiss the rich and the Church (rightly so) as sources of morality.

Taibbi is a fool who continues to portray a tiny fraction of conservative people as the leading example of American conservative thinking. He doesn't touch on the demonizing Pelosi's and Franks of the world yet they are the actual leaders of the failed liberal monopoly...leaders who stubbornly and arrogantly would not accept the message sent by voters in 2008.

Sorry, but the article fails to capture anything except his own demonization of those opposing his point of view.
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Conks are way better and more organized in their demonization.
You have GOT to be kidding. I can't believe you'd seriously say that. The "left" has been extremely successful in demonizing "the rich" and "corporations."
Again, are "the rich" and "corporations" only beholden to the Republican party? Careful with your answer now. :lol:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Taibbi is an azzhole. You think Pelosi is a saint, Schumer is Moses, and Obama is Gandhi. Poor deluded soul. Better buy a cheap indulgence from Brother D1B, S.J. (Society of Jerkoffs).
I can't stand any of the three you just mentioned. :coffee:

Taibbi is an ******* because he's right.

All you conks, running right like hell from your beautiful record of unity and organization. :rofl:
Who, then, can you stand, St. kalm the (Self)Righteous? Name one Donk politician of national stature that you respect. Just one. :coffee:
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Cluck U wrote:
kalm wrote:
Sure, but we're not talking about most people here. We're talking about how the argument is portrayed in the media, and Taibbi is spot-on with his assessment. Conks are way better and more organized in their demonization. It's now backfiring for them.
I think you are living in the past. Sure, Conks had a big advantage in portraying the Libs as whackos...but things have more than evened out. Libs, who control most of the media...have finally learned to play dirty...and they revel in doing so. I agree with Joe in that the Libs wrongly portray themselves as the keepers of moral highground..."we are the world, we are the huddled masses"...and they dismiss the rich and the Church (rightly so) as sources of morality.

Taibbi is a fool who continues to portray a tiny fraction of conservative people as the leading example of American conservative thinking. He doesn't touch on the demonizing Pelosi's and Franks of the world yet they are the actual leaders of the failed liberal monopoly...leaders who stubbornly and arrogantly would not accept the message sent by voters in 2008.

Sorry, but the article fails to capture anything except his own demonization of those opposing his point of view.
Good points, and Taibbi's role just like George Will or Charles Krauthammer is not an unbiased one (although he has been severely critical of the Obama administration).

But I guess a "fraction of conservative people" also represent the best candidates that the "conservative" party of the United States has to offer. So...

As for Libs controlling the media. :rofl:
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So they form their local Moral Majority outfits, and they put Ronald Reagan in office, and they sit and wait for the world to revert to a world where there was one breadwinner in the family, and no teen pregnancy or crime or poor people, and immigrants worked hard and didn't ask for welfare and had the decency to speak English – a world that never existed in reality, of course, but they're waiting for a return to it nonetheless.
I'll comment on this one specifically too because liberals do this sort of thing a lot. The truth is that nobody thinks that there was ever a world in which every family had one breadwinner, where there was no teen pregnancey, where there was no crime or poor people, etc. The author is describing a mindset that does not exist.

However, some years ago it was true that the percentage of families with one breadwinner was much higher, the teen pregnancy rate was much lower, etc. And there certainly was a time when immigrants didn't have the "hold their hands out" expectations that they have now. And there was a time when it was presumed they'd have to learn English to function. There was a time when the culture wasn't bending over backwards to make sure that some group that did NOT speak English had access to understanding.

This thing about "conservatives" wanting to return to a situation that never existed is nonsense. A very different situation DID exist. All this stuff might make for nice sound bytes. But it's false.
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
I can't stand any of the three you just mentioned. :coffee:

Taibbi is an ******* because he's right.

All you conks, running right like hell from your beautiful record of unity and organization. :rofl:
Who, then, can you stand, St. kalm the (Self)Righteous? Name one Donk politician of national stature that you respect. Just one. :coffee:
It's pretty damn tough to respect any of them which I hope would be your response as well. But a couple that come to mind from the left would be Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. I think they are both sincere and not completely full of shit. And from the right, believe it or not, I'm kind of warming up to John Boehner who is completely full of shit but in a tough spot. :mrgreen:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
So they form their local Moral Majority outfits, and they put Ronald Reagan in office, and they sit and wait for the world to revert to a world where there was one breadwinner in the family, and no teen pregnancy or crime or poor people, and immigrants worked hard and didn't ask for welfare and had the decency to speak English – a world that never existed in reality, of course, but they're waiting for a return to it nonetheless.
I'll comment on this one specifically too because liberals do this sort of thing a lot. The truth is that nobody thinks that there was ever a world in which every family had one breadwinner, where there was no teen pregnancey, where there was no crime or poor people, etc. The author is describing a mindset that does not exist.

However, some years ago it was true that the percentage of families with one breadwinner was much higher, the teen pregnancy rate was much lower, etc. And there certainly was a time when immigrants didn't have the "hold their hands out" expectations that they have now. And there was a time when it was presumed they'd have to learn English to function. There was a time when the culture wasn't bending over backwards to make sure that some group that did NOT speak English had access to understanding.

This thing about "conservatives" wanting to return to a situation that never existed is nonsense. A very different situation DID exist. All this stuff might make for nice sound bytes. But it's false.
It's a good analysis and you know it. Hell, I too yearn for the white picket fence days when mom stayed home and out of wedlock pregnancies were kept on the down low. Have I not mentioned that Ike was my favorite president for gersh sakes? And immigrants are still some of the hardest working people in society. Lots harder working than the white trash takers, raised with a sense of dependency and entitlement. :coffee:

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It's a good analysis and you know it. Hell, I too yearn for the white picket fence days when mom stayed home and out of wedlock pregnancies were kept on the down low. Have I not mentioned that Ike was my favorite president for gersh sakes? And immigrants are still some of the hardest working people in society. Lots harder working than the white trash takers, raised with a sense of dependency and entitlement
It is NOT a good analysis. He described beliefs that do not exist. NOBODY thinks the thoughts he described.

Plus he diminishes the differences between "then" and now and contends that the "then" never existed. It did exist. Not as he described it. But nobody ever thought it was as he described it. But in some of the areas he was talking about (family stability, teen pregnancy, crime) it was better then than it is now.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
It's a good analysis and you know it. Hell, I too yearn for the white picket fence days when mom stayed home and out of wedlock pregnancies were kept on the down low. Have I not mentioned that Ike was my favorite president for gersh sakes? And immigrants are still some of the hardest working people in society. Lots harder working than the white trash takers, raised with a sense of dependency and entitlement
It is NOT a good analysis. He described beliefs that do not exist. NOBODY thinks the thoughts he described.

Plus he diminishes the differences between "then" and now and contends that the "then" never existed. It did exist. Not as he described it. But nobody ever thought it was as he described it. But in some of the areas he was talking about (family stability, teen pregnancy, crime) it was better then than it is now.
Every Republican politician believes that their base thinks exactly the thoughts that Taibbi described. Or have you not been paying attention to the primary?
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kalm wrote: Every Republican politician believes that their base thinks exactly the thoughts that Taibbi described. Or have you not been paying attention to the primary?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? :suspicious:
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Cluck U wrote:
kalm wrote:
Sure, but we're not talking about most people here. We're talking about how the argument is portrayed in the media, and Taibbi is spot-on with his assessment. Conks are way better and more organized in their demonization. It's now backfiring for them.
I think you are living in the past. Sure, Conks had a big advantage in portraying the Libs as whackos...but things have more than evened out. Libs, who control most of the media...have finally learned to play dirty...and they revel in doing so. I agree with Joe in that the Libs wrongly portray themselves as the keepers of moral highground..."we are the world, we are the huddled masses"...and they dismiss the rich and the Church (rightly so) as sources of morality.

Taibbi is a fool who continues to portray a tiny fraction of conservative people as the leading example of American conservative thinking. He doesn't touch on the demonizing Pelosi's and Franks of the world yet they are the actual leaders of the failed liberal monopoly...leaders who stubbornly and arrogantly would not accept the message sent by voters in 2008.

Sorry, but the article fails to capture anything except his own demonization of those opposing his point of view.
Libs controlling the media. :lol:

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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Taibbi is an azzhole. You think Pelosi is a saint, Schumer is Moses, and Obama is Gandhi. Poor deluded soul. Better buy a cheap indulgence from Brother D1B, S.J. (Society of Jerkoffs).
I can't stand any of the three you just mentioned. :coffee:

Taibbi is an asshole because he's right.

All you conks, running right like hell from your beautiful record of unity and organization. :rofl:

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D1B wrote:Libs controlling the media. :lol:

Conks are fucks, Flunk U. Find another party.
D1B...any chance that you can drum up the network that is keeping a running tally of the dead U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan? Any chance that you can find the network that is blaming Obama for the price of gas? Any chance that you can find the network that is demonizing Obama for jumping into every third world conflict to bring down dictators?

I could go on...clearly there has been a huge change in the way the media handles the President, Congress, and their decisions.

As to finding another party...I do not support the Republican party. Never have....never will.
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Cluck U wrote:
D1B wrote:Libs controlling the media. :lol:

Conks are fucks, Flunk U. Find another party.
D1B...any chance that you can drum up the network that is keeping a running tally of the dead U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan? Any chance that you can find the network that is blaming Obama for the price of gas? Any chance that you can find the network that is demonizing Obama for jumping into every third world conflict to bring down dictators?

I could go on...clearly there has been a huge change in the way the media handles the President, Congress, and their decisions.

As to finding another party...I do not support the Republican party. Never have....never will.
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Who, then, can you stand, St. kalm the (Self)Righteous? Name one Donk politician of national stature that you respect. Just one. :coffee:
It's pretty damn tough to respect any of them which I hope would be your response as well. But a couple that come to mind from the left would be Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. I think they are both sincere and not completely full of ****. And from the right, believe it or not, I'm kind of warming up to John Boehner who is completely full of **** but in a tough spot. :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote:To paraphrase Winston Churchill, if you're not a liberal when you're younger you have no soul, if you're not a conservative when you're older you have no brains.

Right at the time in my life when I should be sailing comfortably into that conkunism sunset, welcoming the open and rational and (no homo) embrace of the IT's and AZgrizfans of the world, I'm left with a conservative party that is failing miserably.

I know that I've been negligent on my Matt Taibbi articles lately so to bring you up to speed here is his latest that (I think) pretty much nails it.

As an interesting side note and if you're brave enough, feel free to post whether your political leanings we're left of center in your youth.
No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster.

Most importantly, though, the conservative passion for divisive, partisan, bomb-tossing politics is threatening to permanently cripple the Republican party. They long ago became more about pointing fingers than about ideology, and it's finally ruining them.

Oh, sure, your average conservative will insist his belief system is based upon a passion for the free market and limited government, but that's mostly a cover story. Instead, the vast team-building exercise that has driven the broadcasts of people like Rush and Hannity and the talking heads on Fox for decades now has really been a kind of ongoing Quest for Orthodoxy, in which the team members congregate in front of the TV and the radio and share in the warm feeling of pointing the finger at people who aren't as American as they are, who lack their family values, who don’t share their All-American work ethic.

The finger-pointing game is a fun one to play, but it’s a little like drugs – you have to keep taking bigger and bigger doses in order to get the same high.

So it starts with a bunch of these people huddling together and saying to themselves, "We’re the real good Americans; our problems are caused by all those other people out there who don’t share our values." At that stage the real turn-on for the followers is the recognition that there are other like-minded people out there, and they don’t need blood orgies and war cries to keep the faith strong – bake sales and church retreats will do.

So they form their local Moral Majority outfits, and they put Ronald Reagan in office, and they sit and wait for the world to revert to a world where there was one breadwinner in the family, and no teen pregnancy or crime or poor people, and immigrants worked hard and didn't ask for welfare and had the decency to speak English – a world that never existed in reality, of course, but they're waiting for a return to it nonetheless.

Think Ron Paul in the South Carolina debate, when he said that in the '60s, "there was nobody out in the street suffering with no medical care." Paul also recalled that after World War II, 10 million soldiers came home and prospered without any kind of government aid at all – all they needed was a massive cut to the federal budget, and those soldiers just surfed on the resultant wave of economic progress.

"You know what the government did? They cut the budget by 60 percent," he said. "And everybody went back to work again, you didn't need any special programs."

Right – it wasn’t like they needed a G.I. Bill or anything. After all, people were different back then: They didn’t want or need welfare, or a health care program, or any of those things. At least, that’s not the way Paul remembered it.

That's all the early conservative movement was. It was just a heartfelt request that we go back to the good old days of America as these people remembered or imagined it. Of course, the problem was, we couldn't go back, not just because more than half the population (particularly the nonwhite, non-straight, non-male segment of the population) desperately didn't want to go back, but also because that America never existed and was therefore impossible to recreate.

And when we didn’t go back to the good old days, this crowd got frustrated, and suddenly the message stopped being heartfelt and it got an edge to it.

The message went from, "We’re the real Americans; the others are the problem," to, "We’re the last line of defense; we hate those other people and they’re our enemies." Now it wasn’t just that the rest of us weren't getting with the program: Now we were also saboteurs, secretly or perhaps even openly conspiring with America’s enemies to prevent her return to the long-desired Days of Glory.

Now, why would us saboteurs do that? Out of jealousy (we resented their faith and their family closeness), out of spite, and because we have gonads instead of morals. In the Clinton years and the early Bush years we started to hear a lot of this stuff, that the people conservatives described as "liberals" were not, as we are in fact, normal people who believe in marriage and family and love their children just as much as conservatives do, but perverts who subscribe to a sort of religion of hedonism.

"Liberals' only remaining big issue is abortion because of their beloved sexual revolution," was the way Ann Coulter put it. "That's their cause – spreading anarchy and polymorphous perversity. Abortion permits that."

So they fought back, and a whole generation of more strident conservative politicians rose to fight the enemy at home, who conveniently during the '90s lived in the White House and occasionally practiced polymorphous perversity there.

Then conservatives managed to elect to the White House a man who was not only a fundamentalist Christian, but a confirmed anti-intellectual who never even thought about visiting Europe until, as president, he was forced to – the perfect champion of all Real Americans!

Surely, things would change now. But they didn’t. Life continued to move drearily into a new and scary future, Spanish-speaking people continued to roll over the border in droves, queers paraded around in public and even demanded the right to be married, and America not only didn't go back to the good old days of the single-breadwinner family, but jobs in general dried up and you were lucky if Mom and Dad weren’t both working two jobs...


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kalm wrote:To paraphrase Winston Churchill, if you're not a liberal when you're younger you have no soul, if you're not a conservative when you're older you have no brains.

Right at the time in my life when I should be sailing comfortably into that conkunism sunset, welcoming the open and rational and (no homo) embrace of the IT's and AZgrizfans of the world, I'm left with a conservative party that is failing miserably.

I know that I've been negligent on my Matt Taibbi articles lately so to bring you up to speed here is his latest that (I think) pretty much nails it.

As an interesting side note and if you're brave enough, feel free to post whether your political leanings we're left of center in your youth.
No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster.

Most importantly, though, the conservative passion for divisive, partisan, bomb-tossing politics is threatening to permanently cripple the Republican party. They long ago became more about pointing fingers than about ideology, and it's finally ruining them.

Oh, sure, your average conservative will insist his belief system is based upon a passion for the free market and limited government, but that's mostly a cover story. Instead, the vast team-building exercise that has driven the broadcasts of people like Rush and Hannity and the talking heads on Fox for decades now has really been a kind of ongoing Quest for Orthodoxy, in which the team members congregate in front of the TV and the radio and share in the warm feeling of pointing the finger at people who aren't as American as they are, who lack their family values, who don’t share their All-American work ethic.

The finger-pointing game is a fun one to play, but it’s a little like drugs – you have to keep taking bigger and bigger doses in order to get the same high.

So it starts with a bunch of these people huddling together and saying to themselves, "We’re the real good Americans; our problems are caused by all those other people out there who don’t share our values." At that stage the real turn-on for the followers is the recognition that there are other like-minded people out there, and they don’t need blood orgies and war cries to keep the faith strong – bake sales and church retreats will do.

So they form their local Moral Majority outfits, and they put Ronald Reagan in office, and they sit and wait for the world to revert to a world where there was one breadwinner in the family, and no teen pregnancy or crime or poor people, and immigrants worked hard and didn't ask for welfare and had the decency to speak English – a world that never existed in reality, of course, but they're waiting for a return to it nonetheless.

Think Ron Paul in the South Carolina debate, when he said that in the '60s, "there was nobody out in the street suffering with no medical care." Paul also recalled that after World War II, 10 million soldiers came home and prospered without any kind of government aid at all – all they needed was a massive cut to the federal budget, and those soldiers just surfed on the resultant wave of economic progress.

"You know what the government did? They cut the budget by 60 percent," he said. "And everybody went back to work again, you didn't need any special programs."

Right – it wasn’t like they needed a G.I. Bill or anything. After all, people were different back then: They didn’t want or need welfare, or a health care program, or any of those things. At least, that’s not the way Paul remembered it.

That's all the early conservative movement was. It was just a heartfelt request that we go back to the good old days of America as these people remembered or imagined it. Of course, the problem was, we couldn't go back, not just because more than half the population (particularly the nonwhite, non-straight, non-male segment of the population) desperately didn't want to go back, but also because that America never existed and was therefore impossible to recreate.

And when we didn’t go back to the good old days, this crowd got frustrated, and suddenly the message stopped being heartfelt and it got an edge to it.

The message went from, "We’re the real Americans; the others are the problem," to, "We’re the last line of defense; we hate those other people and they’re our enemies." Now it wasn’t just that the rest of us weren't getting with the program: Now we were also saboteurs, secretly or perhaps even openly conspiring with America’s enemies to prevent her return to the long-desired Days of Glory.

Now, why would us saboteurs do that? Out of jealousy (we resented their faith and their family closeness), out of spite, and because we have gonads instead of morals. In the Clinton years and the early Bush years we started to hear a lot of this stuff, that the people conservatives described as "liberals" were not, as we are in fact, normal people who believe in marriage and family and love their children just as much as conservatives do, but perverts who subscribe to a sort of religion of hedonism.

"Liberals' only remaining big issue is abortion because of their beloved sexual revolution," was the way Ann Coulter put it. "That's their cause – spreading anarchy and polymorphous perversity. Abortion permits that."

So they fought back, and a whole generation of more strident conservative politicians rose to fight the enemy at home, who conveniently during the '90s lived in the White House and occasionally practiced polymorphous perversity there.

Then conservatives managed to elect to the White House a man who was not only a fundamentalist Christian, but a confirmed anti-intellectual who never even thought about visiting Europe until, as president, he was forced to – the perfect champion of all Real Americans!

Surely, things would change now. But they didn’t. Life continued to move drearily into a new and scary future, Spanish-speaking people continued to roll over the border in droves, queers paraded around in public and even demanded the right to be married, and America not only didn't go back to the good old days of the single-breadwinner family, but jobs in general dried up and you were lucky if Mom and Dad weren’t both working two jobs...


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kalm wrote:
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It is NOT a good analysis. He described beliefs that do not exist. NOBODY thinks the thoughts he described.

Plus he diminishes the differences between "then" and now and contends that the "then" never existed. It did exist. Not as he described it. But nobody ever thought it was as he described it. But in some of the areas he was talking about (family stability, teen pregnancy, crime) it was better then than it is now.
Every Republican politician believes that their base thinks exactly the thoughts that Taibbi described. Or have you not been paying attention to the primary?
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I know your frame of reference is somewhere stuck between Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, and thinkprogress, but you can't honestly be that blind. :ohno:
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The whole Republican primary this year should be moved to and contained by the Comedy Channel.
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Wedgebuster wrote:The whole Republican primary this year should be moved to and contained by the Comedy Channel.
Why not. Colbert would kick their asses in the polls. :lol:
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screw the democrats, bunch of pussies.

a real president walks up to OPEC and tells them to F off. aand get gas down to $2
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lakesbison wrote:screw the democrats, bunch of pussies.

a real president walks up to OPEC and tells them to F off. aand get gas down to $2
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lakesbison wrote:screw the democrats, bunch of pussies.

a real president walks up to OPEC and tells them to F off. aand get gas down to $2
You tell them, John Wayne. Ha ha
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