FUCK YOU KOMEN FOUNDATION

[D1B]

This is no secret and this is why people like you and your church are major factors contributing to higher abortion numbers.

It's also a factor in spreading STD's and infections that cause sterility in women who want to have children.

Check yourself Hen. It aint as easy as just shutting down abortion clinics. The catholic church is a major contributer to the problem for many reasons, current and historical. Your church has been very tough on women since day one and they've been suffering ever since. So much so that your pope apologized for it.


This is no different.

[89Hen]

D, you're not making much of a case here. You want to move on to STD's and a pope's apology from over 10 years ago for general discrimination against women before you've shown anything that would suggest that they have been a major contributor to the number of abortions performed.

[SeattleGriz]

How many abortions are due to those poor being too lazy to take necessary precautions? That is the issue. People being too lazy to take the proper precautions because they know they can show up and get the baby killed when they want.

By the way, next time you say a fetus isn't a person, let me ask you this one question - and it is a low blow. Did you not get the ultrasound of your children at 13 weeks? Killing a formed child is bullshit and you know it.

Not giving a crap about a child once they take their first breath is bullshit and you know it. Wish that CONKS were so into saving children that are older than zero days old..........

Where is the personal responsibility here Jeff? That is an obvious difference between what you are saying. One side has a baby and takes care of it and the other expects someone else to do it for them.

[SeattleGriz]

Besides Conks, let's not forget about the #1, by far, abortion menace: God/Jesus

It is estimated that up to half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously, usually before the woman knows she is pregnant. Among those women who know they are pregnant, the miscarriage rate is about 15-20%. Most miscarriages occur during the first 7 weeks of pregnancy. The rate of miscarriage drops after the baby's heart beat is detected.

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I like how you left all the information out as to why spontaneous abortions happen (below). Looks as if the majority happen because if the baby was taken to term it would be so genetically messed up it would have a horrendous life. So, to play against your bullshit line about God. It looks as if God was being merciful, just like allowing the elderly to be euthanized when life gets too poor.

By the way, did you just quote and article that pretty much states a babies heart starts beating around week 7? Hmm.

Most miscarriages are caused by chromosome problems that make it impossible for the baby to develop. Usually, these problems are unrelated to the mother or father's genes.

Other possible causes for miscarriage include:

Drug and alcohol abuse
Exposure to environmental toxins
Hormone problems
Infection
Obesity
Physical problems with the mother's reproductive organs
Problem with the body's immune response
Serious body-wide ( systemic) diseases in the mother (such as uncontrolled diabetes)
Smoking

[D1B]

Besides Conks, let's not forget about the #1, by far, abortion menace: God/Jesus



http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 001488.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I like how you left all the information out as to why spontaneous abortions happen (below). Looks as if the majority happen because if the baby was taken to term it would be so genetically messed up it would have a horrendous life. So, to play against your bullshit line about God. It looks as if God was being merciful, just like allowing the elderly to be euthanized when life gets too poor.

By the way, did you just quote and article that pretty much states a babies heart starts beating around week 7? Hmm.

Most miscarriages are caused by chromosome problems that make it impossible for the baby to develop. Usually, these problems are unrelated to the mother or father's genes.

Other possible causes for miscarriage include:

Drug and alcohol abuse
Exposure to environmental toxins
Hormone problems
Infection
Obesity
Physical problems with the mother's reproductive organs
Problem with the body's immune response
Serious body-wide ( systemic) diseases in the mother (such as uncontrolled diabetes)
Smoking

Dumb Fuck, most spontaneous abortions happen "BEFORE THE WOMAN KNOWS SHE'S PREGNANT" What kind of god makes this the case?

Your god is a dumb piece of shit and top dog when it comes to killing fetuses.

[D1B]

Not giving a crap about a child once they take their first breath is bullshit and you know it. Wish that CONKS were so into saving children that are older than zero days old..........

Where is the personal responsibility here Jeff? That is an obvious difference between what you are saying. One side has a baby and takes care of it and the other expects someone else to do it for them.

Don't matter.

Millions and millions of children are born into poverty through no fault of their own. Fucks like you make sure they stay that way.

Neeeeeeeext.........

[89Hen]

Your god is a dumb piece of shit and top dog when it comes to killing fetuses.

Coming from an atheist, this makes as much sense as tits on a bull.

[mainejeff]

CONK mantra: Save the fetus.....to hell with the child.

[Skjellyfetti]

Dumbass pro-life Congressman gets fooled by the Onion.

[mainejeff]

Dumbass pro-life Congressman gets fooled by the Onion.

Theys is smaht.

[89Hen]

CONK mantra: Save the fetus.....to hell with the child.

JEFF mantra: To hell with the fetus....to hell with the child.

[mainejeff]

CONK mantra: Save the fetus.....to hell with the child.

JEFF mantra: To hell with the fetus....to hell with the child.

No.....

JEFF mantra: Educate young adults on how their lives will be destroyed if they produce children before they are ready and ensure that children in poverty have the support of society to help break the cycle of children having children.

[89Hen]

JEFF mantra: To hell with the fetus....to hell with the child.

No.....

JEFF mantra: Educate young adults on how their lives will be destroyed if they produce children before they are ready and ensure that children in poverty have the support of society to help break the cycle of children having children.

BULL FUCKING SHIT.

[mainejeff]

No.....

JEFF mantra: Educate young adults on how their lives will be destroyed if they produce children before they are ready and ensure that children in poverty have the support of society to help break the cycle of children having children.

BULL **** ****.

FU CONK.

[Vidav]

No.....

JEFF mantra: Educate young adults on how their lives will be destroyed if they produce children before they are ready and ensure that children in poverty have the support of society to help break the cycle of children having children.

BULL FUCKING SHIT.

Such foul language.

[D1B]

Is the church anti-birth control and real sex education? If so, this is true.

Major factors to higher abortion numbers? I think not. People who are so inclined to follow the church so as to not use birth control are in NO WAY going to have an abortion. Think about it, which is a bigger deal, using a condom or aborting a child?

Not so sure Hen. Think about it, which is a bigger deal - getting an abortion in Chicago that no one will ever find out about or dealing with the stigma and radical life changes of a teen, unwanted, or god forbid, a mixed-race pregnancy.

Hen, you don't get it. Your church affects everyone. Your church/religion is powerful to the point that it pretty much own$ the republican party and writes its official policy on birth control, abortion and sex education. It spends millions villifying orgs like PP who are trying to help women and has been very successful convincing politicians to eliminate realistic sex education programs and condom and birth control access here and across the globe. All with devastating consequences, especially for the poor. Jesus would not be happy with you.

[SeattleGriz]

I like how you left all the information out as to why spontaneous abortions happen (below). Looks as if the majority happen because if the baby was taken to term it would be so genetically messed up it would have a horrendous life. So, to play against your bullshit line about God. It looks as if God was being merciful, just like allowing the elderly to be euthanized when life gets too poor.

By the way, did you just quote and article that pretty much states a babies heart starts beating around week 7? Hmm.

Dumb Fuck, most spontaneous abortions happen "BEFORE THE WOMAN KNOWS SHE'S PREGNANT" What kind of god makes this the case?

Your god is a dumb piece of shit and top dog when it comes to killing fetuses.

Exactly. Only an all wise and knowing God would take mercy on a genetically messed up child and save them the trouble of a shitty life. Look at how you turned out all fucked up because He didn't intervene!

[D1B]

Dumb Fuck, most spontaneous abortions happen "BEFORE THE WOMAN KNOWS SHE'S PREGNANT" What kind of god makes this the case?

Your god is a dumb piece of shit and top dog when it comes to killing fetuses.

Exactly. Only an all wise and knowing God would take mercy on a genetically messed up child and save them the trouble of a shitty life. Look at how you turned out all fucked up because He didn't intervene!

You are without a doubt the dumbest motherfucker here.



Seattlegriz on a Saturday night

[D1B]

And George Carlin ends the debate:

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"Hey, If you think a fetus is more important than a woman, try getting a fetus to wash the shit stains out of your underwear........for no pay and no pension."

[D1B]

I support Komen 100% with this decision. Planned Parenthood is a disgraceful, dishonest organization which should receive no public funding. Hopefully that's next. I donated to Komen yesterday after years after years of consciously boycotting it due to its PP ties. In the past, I had only given to Komen when asked by close friends who were walking in memory of a loved one. In those situations, I was supporting a friend and their loved one, not Komen.

The latest Gallup poll showed that 61% of Americans believe abortion should be illegal in all or most circumstances. Only 39% believe that abortion should legal in all or most circumstances. 49% of Americans now embrace and self-identify by themselves by the "pro life" label. Surprisingly, the "pro life" label is widely embraced by younger women. Only 45% call themselves "pro choice."

The internet outrage by PP supporters is funny. Their "I'm no longer going to donate to Komen" line is an empty threat, since most of them didn't give anyway. Social liberals are notoriously far more generous with other people's money than their own, and every charity knows that.

Wow - talk about a post full of lies - how many Hail Mary's you gonna have to say in confession for this post?
PP is one of the most effective health organizations in the country - providing health care to those that can't afford it in any other way - their spending has REAL results - not the fake results of rip-off artists like the Komen Crooks.

But it doesn't suprise me you would support people like this, Joe.

Joe is a lying sack of shit. Without a doubt the most dishonest person here. Typical New York lawyer scumbag.

[JoltinJoe]

Wow - talk about a post full of lies - how many Hail Mary's you gonna have to say in confession for this post?
PP is one of the most effective health organizations in the country - providing health care to those that can't afford it in any other way - their spending has REAL results - not the fake results of rip-off artists like the Komen Crooks.

But it doesn't suprise me you would support people like this, Joe.

Joe is a lying sack of ****. Without a doubt the most dishonest person here. Typical New York lawyer scumbag.

You're a twisted mind, and everyone here knows it. Even among those here that don't agree with me on things, I have many more times credibility than you do. That's why I have many cordial and fruitful discussions with people here who have different opinions. As for you, people just talk around you. You add nothing.

In any event, I've asked for a recitation of what the "lies" I posted were, and not a single response.

Here's a lie from PP, one of its many lies that you support: "It's just a clump of cells."

[D1B]

Joe is a lying sack of ****. Without a doubt the most dishonest person here. Typical New York lawyer scumbag.

You're a twisted mind, and everyone here knows it. Even among those here that don't agree with me on things, I have many more times credibility than you do. That's why I have many cordial and fruitful discussions with people here who have different opinions. As for you, people just talk around you. You add nothing.

In any event, I've asked for a recitation of what the "lies" I posted were, and not a single response.

Here's a lie from PP, one of its many lies that you support: "It's just a clump of cells."

Just fun watching this one blow up in your face.

Komen reverses = classic

Mealy Mouth Joe tries to saves face...

Time for you to invent new friends.

[JoltinJoe]

You're a twisted mind, and everyone here knows it. Even among those here that don't agree with me on things, I have many more times credibility than you do. That's why I have many cordial and fruitful discussions with people here who have different opinions. As for you, people just talk around you. You add nothing.

In any event, I've asked for a recitation of what the "lies" I posted were, and not a single response.

Here's a lie from PP, one of its many lies that you support: "It's just a clump of cells."

Just fun watching this one blow up in your face.

Komen reverses = classic

Mealy Mouth Joe tries to saves face...

Time for you to invent new friends.

Blows up in my face? What this proves is that PP and its angry old supporters will do anything, including damaging another charity, in order to continue its regressive policies. What do you expect from a group founded by a repulsive eugenist so ugly that she was invited by the KKK to speak before one of its chapters?

Of course, the reasons why the KKK saw PP's agenda as consistent with its own are totally lost on you.

Komen advised PP in December that it as going to make this move because the relationship with PP was hindering its fundraising. What does PP do? Does it say, that's fine, because you should do you best to raise as much as possible to assist in raising consciousness about breast cancer? Of course not. After all, once you feed the evil monster, the evil monster assumes it is entitled to your funds. So PP politicizes the move, and goes public, in an effort to rouse anger among its political (obviously not financial) supporters. What an ugly, spiteful organization -- but, as consolation to you, certainly consistent with its core (ugly) beliefs.

You and PP deserve each other.

[89Hen]

Major factors to higher abortion numbers? I think not. People who are so inclined to follow the church so as to not use birth control are in NO WAY going to have an abortion. Think about it, which is a bigger deal, using a condom or aborting a child?

Not so sure Hen. Think about it, which is a bigger deal - getting an abortion in Chicago that no one will ever find out about or dealing with the stigma and radical life changes of a teen, unwanted, or god forbid, a mixed-race pregnancy.

Hen, you don't get it. Your church affects everyone. Your church/religion is powerful to the point that it pretty much own$ the republican party and writes its official policy on birth control, abortion and sex education. It spends millions villifying orgs like PP who are trying to help women and has been very successful convincing politicians to eliminate realistic sex education programs and condom and birth control access here and across the globe. All with devastating consequences, especially for the poor. Jesus would not be happy with you.

So now you're expading to all Christianity, nice. I guess you have to since my church is pretty much 50/50 R and D.

As for which is worse, again you're asking about somebody who would have been influenced by the church enough to not use birth control... the abortion is FAR worse.

[D1B]

Just fun watching this one blow up in your face.

Komen reverses = classic

Mealy Mouth Joe tries to saves face...

Time for you to invent new friends.

Blows up in my face? What this proves is that PP and its angry old supporters will do anything, including damaging another charity, in order to continue its regressive policies. What do you expect from a group founded by a repulsive eugenist so ugly that she was invited by the KKK to speak before one of its chapters?

Of course, the reasons why the KKK saw PP's agenda as consistent with its own are totally lost on you.

Komen advised PP in December that it as going to make this move because the relationship with PP was hindering its fundraising. What does PP do? Does it say, that's fine, because you should do you best to raise as much as possible to assist in raising consciousness about breast cancer? Of course not. After all, once you feed the evil monster, the evil monster assumes it is entitled to your funds. So PP politicizes the move, and goes public, in an effort to rouse anger among its political (obviously not financial) supporters. What an ugly, spiteful organization -- but, as consolation to you, certainly consistent with its core (ugly) beliefs.

You and PP deserve each other.

Komen Reversal - 2pts