ASUG8 wrote:
One man surrounded by 435 Catholics, Protestants, and agnostics. Kind of tough to push through the whole Mormon agenda against those odds.
Mormon agenda? I was pointing to his judgement, that is the sanity/insanity of tithing 4.1 million dollars to a religion based on space gods, and gods being created here at the Temples, and his own design and belief that he too will become a god someday, you conk fuckers just don't get that because all you see is #1 a democrat in office, #2 a nigger democrat in office, and #3 (see #1 and #2)
LMAO at this whole process this year, and the fact that Romney is the nominee apparent. Damn few people outside of the intermountain west have a clue as to what is really going on within this cult, but that does not matter to the partisans here who will climb on his back when there are no more backs to climb onto, just as long as they get rid of that coon in the white house.
Do you find it even a tad bit ironic that the ONLY person who brings up Obama's race in virtually EVERY post about him is YOU?
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Wedgebuster wrote:
No, he is the yet to be embraced nominee of the Republican Party apparently, and that would make him much better than Obama, or any other Democrat of course, those who have not climbed on the bandwagon yet will eventually, even AZ.
Much more palatable for the conks to line up behind a space ghost worshiper than tolerate that black guy that probably wasn't even born in the USA as JBB and the rest of you guys have been insisting.
Conks!
No, Obama is the embraced nominee of the Democratic Party that is rich, but not as rich as Romney, and that would make him much better than Romney, or any other Republican of course, those who have not climbed on the bandwagon yet will eventually, even those pesky Southern Baptists who would take a black man over a Mormon.
Much more palatable for the donks to line up behind an invisible, omnipotent white man/god with a long beard in the sky that impregnated a virgin with himself to be born, live, and crucified by those he came to save and will accept you with a little faith, but will damn you to the fiery depths without said faith worshiper than the ridiculous wealthy businessman?
Donks!
Absurd generalizations can be fun!!!
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Then who you gonna vote for? Gary Johnson?
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kalm wrote:As for the Mormon influence already in place at some very powerful institutions and their faiths power prophesies I'd reference the article, but wedgies is on such an ass beating roll of the c.s. conkusphere I think I'll sit back and just watch awhile longer.
No doubt - unless someone has spent a lot of time in :Arizona, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, eastern WA/OR or non-Vegas/Reno NV, you have no idea what the Mormon influence is like.
I find it humorous that the supposedly tolerant, progressive donks are hammering away at a candidate's religion while at the same time decrying racism as the reason that conks want Obama out of the White House. The two sides are mirror images of each other, they just have different points of intolerance.
And before you use the argument that I have no understanding of the LDS because I'm not from the inter-mountain west, I grew up 20 miles from Nauvoo (if you don't know where that is or it's significance to Mormonism maybe you don't know what you're talking about). I've grown up with Mormons, a good friend in junior high was Mormon, there is a decent sized Mormon population in the Chicago area, one of my son's friends is a Mormon, etc. I believe I was in elementary school when I had my first conversation with Mormon missionaries. Then and every time since, they've been extremely polite, intelligent, willing to discuss their religion as much as I wanted (had an interesting conversation in 2008 about Romney's candidacy) and willing to take no for an answer. LDS is very different from mainstream Christian denominations and when things get tough, Mormons do circle the wagons and protect their own. From my experience, they also tend to be well-educated, well-behaved and very family-oriented.
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Wedgebuster wrote:
Mormon agenda? I was pointing to his judgement, that is the sanity/insanity of tithing 4.1 million dollars to a religion based on space gods, and gods being created here at the Temples, and his own design and belief that he too will become a god someday, you conk fuckers just don't get that because all you see is #1 a democrat in office, #2 a nigger democrat in office, and #3 (see #1 and #2)
LMAO at this whole process this year, and the fact that Romney is the nominee apparent. Damn few people outside of the intermountain west have a clue as to what is really going on within this cult, but that does not matter to the partisans here who will climb on his back when there are no more backs to climb onto, just as long as they get rid of that coon in the white house.
Do you find it even a tad bit ironic that the ONLY person who brings up Obama's race in virtually EVERY post about him is YOU?
dbackjon wrote:
No doubt - unless someone has spent a lot of time in :Arizona, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, eastern WA/OR or non-Vegas/Reno NV, you have no idea what the Mormon influence is like.
I find it humorous that the supposedly tolerant, progressive donks are hammering away at a candidate's religion while at the same time decrying racism as the reason that conks want Obama out of the White House. The two sides are mirror images of each other, they just have different points of intolerance.
And before you use the argument that I have no understanding of the LDS because I'm not from the inter-mountain west, I grew up 20 miles from Nauvoo (if you don't know where that is or it's significance to Mormonism maybe you don't know what you're talking about). I've grown up with Mormons, a good friend in junior high was Mormon, there is a decent sized Mormon population in the Chicago area, one of my son's friends is a Mormon, etc. I believe I was in elementary school when I had my first conversation with Mormon missionaries. Then and every time since, they've been extremely polite, intelligent, willing to discuss their religion as much as I wanted (had an interesting conversation in 2008 about Romney's candidacy) and willing to take no for an answer. LDS is very different from mainstream Christian denominations and when things get tough, Mormons do circle the wagons and protect their own. From my experience, they also tend to be well-educated, well-behaved and very family-oriented.
One of my very best friends is Mormon too. Seriously, not just the cliche. Mormons can be very nice and the woman are the finest moms and housekeepers around. But there is also a very real arrogance that permeates their outlook toward others. Is intolerance of intolerance wrong?
at wedge dropping the N word and coon while labeling anyone who's conservative a racist.
So for the Mormon uneducated, will Romney become a god while still alive? Can he time those contributions so that his ascendency into this godlike state happen while in office? If he's trying to do good things in the eyes of his religion that will get him a reward in the afterlife you should be going after every Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, Shinto, Catholic, and Protestant on the planet.
Whether you agree with his religion or not you've got to evaluate him based on what you'll think he'll do based on the earthly acts he's done, not the god he may become. The great unwashed were pretty sure that Obama was going to be making their car and mortgage payments for them but instead gave them a partial healthcare system and a mountain of debt that we'll never see go away in our lifetimes. If four more years of that make you sleep well at night then fantastic, pull the Dem straight ticket again in '12. Many of us will be evaluating candidates (regardless of their party affiliation) on their intentions for bettering the mess we're in.
ASUG8 wrote: at wedge dropping the N word and coon while labeling anyone who's conservative a racist.
So for the Mormon uneducated, will Romney become a god while still alive? Can he time those contributions so that his ascendency into this godlike state happen while in office? If he's trying to do good things in the eyes of his religion that will get him a reward in the afterlife you should be going after every Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, Shinto, Catholic, and Protestant on the planet.
Whether you agree with his religion or not you've got to evaluate him based on what you'll think he'll do based on the earthly acts he's done, not the god he may become. The great unwashed were pretty sure that Obama was going to be making their car and mortgage payments for them but instead gave them a partial healthcare system and a mountain of debt that we'll never see go away in our lifetimes. If four more years of that make you sleep well at night then fantastic, pull the Dem straight ticket again in '12. Many of us will be evaluating candidates (regardless of their party affiliation) on their intentions for bettering the mess we're in.
Looks like he's your mormon now augie, better get aboard and start riding him hard and not spending time here defending a cult you know nothing of.
Anybody but Obama, right??
I hope he picks Huntsman as his veep, then it will be like me and mini-me.
UNI88 wrote:
I find it humorous that the supposedly tolerant, progressive donks are hammering away at a candidate's religion while at the same time decrying racism as the reason that conks want Obama out of the White House. The two sides are mirror images of each other, they just have different points of intolerance.
And before you use the argument that I have no understanding of the LDS because I'm not from the inter-mountain west, I grew up 20 miles from Nauvoo (if you don't know where that is or it's significance to Mormonism maybe you don't know what you're talking about). I've grown up with Mormons, a good friend in junior high was Mormon, there is a decent sized Mormon population in the Chicago area, one of my son's friends is a Mormon, etc. I believe I was in elementary school when I had my first conversation with Mormon missionaries. Then and every time since, they've been extremely polite, intelligent, willing to discuss their religion as much as I wanted (had an interesting conversation in 2008 about Romney's candidacy) and willing to take no for an answer. LDS is very different from mainstream Christian denominations and when things get tough, Mormons do circle the wagons and protect their own. From my experience, they also tend to be well-educated, well-behaved and very family-oriented.
One of my very best friends is Mormon too. Seriously, not just the cliche. Mormons can be very nice and the woman are the finest moms and housekeepers around. But there is also a very real arrogance that permeates their outlook toward others. Is intolerance of intolerance wrong?
Mormons can be arrogant. But how is that any different than a variety of other groups? My step-mom was catholic and she was arrogant as could be when it came to dealing with non-catholics. Redneck whites are arrogant towards people of color. People tend to believe that what they believe is right and that their belief makes them better than others. Arrogance is also more obvious when there are larger numbers of a group in a location.
Intolerance is wrong, even intolerance of the intolerant. A true progressive should understand other people's intolerance but not compound it by simply being intolerant in response.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.
It will probably be difficult for MAQA yahoos to overcome the Qult programming but they should give being rational & reasonable a try.
Thank you for your attention to this matter - UNI88
UNI88 wrote:Mormons can be arrogant. But how is that any different than a variety of other groups? My step-mom was catholic and she was arrogant as could be when it came to dealing with non-catholics. Redneck whites are arrogant towards people of color. People tend to believe that what they believe is right and that their belief makes them better than others. Arrogance is also more obvious when there are larger numbers of a group in a location.
Intolerance is wrong, even intolerance of the intolerant. A true progressive should understand other people's intolerance but not compound it by simply being intolerant in response.
UNI88 wrote:Mormons can be arrogant. But how is that any different than a variety of other groups? My step-mom was catholic and she was arrogant as could be when it came to dealing with non-catholics. Redneck whites are arrogant towards people of color. People tend to believe that what they believe is right and that their belief makes them better than others. Arrogance is also more obvious when there are larger numbers of a group in a location.
Intolerance is wrong, even intolerance of the intolerant. A true progressive should understand other people's intolerance but not compound it by simply being intolerant in response.
I don't think I ever defended his "cult", and AGAIN I didn't vote for him in the primary. Seems you're taking the D1B tack on attacking a particular faith, which is your perrogative. There's no good option in the GOP this time around, but we've seen from 3+ yrs of Obama what a second term would do. I might be willing to take my chances with someone who thinks they're godlike - it seemed to work for Obama in '08.
Personally, I'll take a president who takes both the credit and the blame where it's due, not just shuffle all the bad parts of his presidency on the other party or his predecessor. Whoever the nominee is should have plenty of cannon fodder for blasting Obama's record (although it was all inherited, none was his fault).
UNI88 wrote:Mormons can be arrogant. But how is that any different than a variety of other groups? My step-mom was catholic and she was arrogant as could be when it came to dealing with non-catholics. Redneck whites are arrogant towards people of color. People tend to believe that what they believe is right and that their belief makes them better than others. Arrogance is also more obvious when there are larger numbers of a group in a location.
Intolerance is wrong, even intolerance of the intolerant. A true progressive should understand other people's intolerance but not compound it by simply being intolerant in response.
89Hen wrote:
You can't get any more arrogant than Liberals.
Especially liberal mormons.
So Wedgie's a closet Mormon? That explains his hatred ... it's really a form of self-loathing. I always thought that some 16 year old Mormon boy stole his girlfriend back in high school and showed her a really good time under the bleachers (without having to ply her with alcohol). Now I know better.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
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It will probably be difficult for MAQA yahoos to overcome the Qult programming but they should give being rational & reasonable a try.
Thank you for your attention to this matter - UNI88
Wedgebuster wrote:We have what we have because the American electorate put them there. The partisans started howling about money spending before Obama spent the first dime in his administration, these are the same partisans that stood by while the past Republican administration completely trashed our economy, military, and country all together, many of them lining their pockets along the way. Then came the "tea party" the biggest bunch of racist pukes I have ever seen hanging out in front of a court house crying about the money Obama was going to spend trying to avoid an economic depression.
You ******* are just so damned disappointed that the depression was averted, except for your mental ones you do not know what to do.
Nobody has spent any time explaining as to how much better off our country would be if McCain/Palin had taken office, maybe because there was never any danger in that happening in the first place, but I think we would be in much worse shape than we are, of course you disenfranchised conk partisans would then be doing all the backfilling and apologizing for them right now.
Your party is now so **** up you consider Alan Simpson to be a liberal, and will accept no advice from him at all, even though all of it has been nearly 100% sage and it was in fact asked for.
Now you ignorant ******* are going to put a space ghost in the Presidential race!
What was it you were saying about "partisans?"
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ASUMountaineer wrote:
No, Obama is the embraced nominee of the Democratic Party that is rich, but not as rich as Romney, and that would make him much better than Romney, or any other Republican of course, those who have not climbed on the bandwagon yet will eventually, even those pesky Southern Baptists who would take a black man over a Mormon.
Much more palatable for the donks to line up behind an invisible, omnipotent white man/god with a long beard in the sky that impregnated a virgin with himself to be born, live, and crucified by those he came to save and will accept you with a little faith, but will damn you to the fiery depths without said faith worshiper than the ridiculous wealthy businessman?
Donks!
Absurd generalizations can be fun!!!
DISCLAIMER: I'm a white, Southern Baptist that will not be voting for Obama or Romney or Santorum or Gingrich.
Then who you gonna vote for? Gary Johnson?
Why do you care? I'm guessing, regardless of my answer, you will find a way to criticize it. The good news is, WTF cares?
We'll see who the other candidates on the ballot in NC will be. Obviously, the candidate that I most align with is Ron Paul, and I may just write him in. However, I stand by my statement that the four mentioned above have not and will not earn my vote. If one of them earns yours, so be it. It's none of my business who you vote for, but I guess that's just the way I am...I prefer to stay out of your business.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Then who you gonna vote for? Gary Johnson?
Why do you care? I'm guessing, regardless of my answer, you will find a way to criticize it. The good news is, WTF cares?
We'll see who the other candidates on the ballot in NC will be. Obviously, the candidate that I most align with is Ron Paul, and I may just write him in. However, I stand by my statement that the four mentioned above have not and will not earn my vote. If one of them earns yours, so be it. It's none of my business who you vote for, but I guess that's just the way I am...I prefer to stay out of your business.
Then why do you go on a message board, bring it up by stating who you aren't voting for, then criticize someone for asking & say its none of people's business
If you say its none of people's business, then don't advertise your business...
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dbackjon wrote:
No doubt - unless someone has spent a lot of time in :Arizona, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, eastern WA/OR or non-Vegas/Reno NV, you have no idea what the Mormon influence is like.
I find it humorous that the supposedly tolerant, progressive donks are hammering away at a candidate's religion while at the same time decrying racism as the reason that conks want Obama out of the White House. The two sides are mirror images of each other, they just have different points of intolerance.
And before you use the argument that I have no understanding of the LDS because I'm not from the inter-mountain west, I grew up 20 miles from Nauvoo (if you don't know where that is or it's significance to Mormonism maybe you don't know what you're talking about). I've grown up with Mormons, a good friend in junior high was Mormon, there is a decent sized Mormon population in the Chicago area, one of my son's friends is a Mormon, etc. I believe I was in elementary school when I had my first conversation with Mormon missionaries. Then and every time since, they've been extremely polite, intelligent, willing to discuss their religion as much as I wanted (had an interesting conversation in 2008 about Romney's candidacy) and willing to take no for an answer. LDS is very different from mainstream Christian denominations and when things get tough, Mormons do circle the wagons and protect their own. From my experience, they also tend to be well-educated, well-behaved and very family-oriented.
I am very tolerant - except for the intolerance of others. You find it humorous that I take objection to a cult that financed the repeal of my civil rights
If you think that that is the same as racism, then frankly, you are clueless.
And no, living near Nauvoo (which I did, and have visited), with the relatively small Mormon population is not the same as living in areas with Mormon majorities, where they will only vote for fellow Mormons, if given the choice.
