A. If people could read a graph Obama would get 4 more.
B. How bout' that TARP?
C. Yeah, but... how much did it cost?
D. Screw the economy, I want "open marriage" mandates.
E. Drill, baby, drill.






Whoa. Where those jobs created, or just saved? Do we get a discount for saved jobs?AZGrizFan wrote:Enter analjelly to argue that creating 3.2 million jobs with a cost per job of $250,000 is somehow a good deal.


Don't know. Can't get a straight answer out of anybody in government.SeattleGriz wrote:Whoa. Where those jobs created, or just saved? Do we get a discount for saved jobs?AZGrizFan wrote:Enter analjelly to argue that creating 3.2 million jobs with a cost per job of $250,000 is somehow a good deal.


Are those totals for 57 or 50 states?AZGrizFan wrote:Don't know. Can't get a straight answer out of anybody in government.SeattleGriz wrote:
Whoa. Where those jobs created, or just saved? Do we get a discount for saved jobs?![]()

56.93SeattleGriz wrote:Are those totals for 57 or 50 states?AZGrizFan wrote:
Don't know. Can't get a straight answer out of anybody in government.![]()



The best people to govern the country don't even run for office.Gil Dobie wrote:If there is nobody better than Obama, maybe he should get re-elected. I doubt McCain would have done better. The problem is the best people to govern the country don't get to the finals for each of the major parties.

Now is the perfect time for a white knight candidate to throw their hat in. Draft OL FU/IT!Ivytalk wrote:The best people to govern the country don't even run for office.Gil Dobie wrote:If there is nobody better than Obama, maybe he should get re-elected. I doubt McCain would have done better. The problem is the best people to govern the country don't get to the finals for each of the major parties.




Are you blaming Obama for the unemployment numbers?89Hen wrote:I wonder why all the charts and graphs generated by Dems all start in 2007. Strange.

Are you absolving him of them?kalm wrote:Are you blaming Obama for the unemployment numbers?


With kalm for Secretary of the Treasury!kalm wrote:Now is the perfect time for a white knight candidate to throw their hat in. Draft OL FU/IT!Ivytalk wrote: The best people to govern the country don't even run for office.

Alright you talked me into it.Ivytalk wrote:The best people to govern the country don't even run for office.Gil Dobie wrote:If there is nobody better than Obama, maybe he should get re-elected. I doubt McCain would have done better. The problem is the best people to govern the country don't get to the finals for each of the major parties.

I wonder why all the charts and graphs posted by 89Hen only go to 2010. Strange.89Hen wrote:I wonder why all the charts and graphs generated by Dems all start in 2007. Strange.

Putin already has a running mate.Vidav wrote:Alright you talked me into it.Ivytalk wrote: The best people to govern the country don't even run for office.
Vidav 2016!
What's that? Oh, yes I can provide a birth certificate from the US. I will just have to find it, gimme a minute. . .

biobengal wrote:Chose the best figure caption:


If she turns around I'll hit that bottom until I pass out.CAA Flagship wrote:biobengal wrote:Chose the best figure caption:


Not really. Try and find any that go from 2000-2011. If you did, you will see that the ones I posted are a lot more telling.Skjellyfetti wrote:I wonder why all the charts and graphs posted by 89Hen only go to 2010. Strange.


Energy price increases = economic inflation.So far, during the presidency of Barack Obama, the price of a gallon of gasoline has jumped 83 percent, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
During the same period, the price of ground beef has gone up 24 percent and price of bacon has gone up 22 percent.
When Obama entered the White House in January 2009, the city average price for one gallon of regular unleaded gasoline was $1.79, according to the BLS. (The figures are in nominal dollars: not adjusted for inflation.) Five months later in June, unleaded gasoline was $2.26 per gallon, an increase of 26 percent. By December 2011, the price of regular unleaded gas per gallon was $3.28, an 83 percent increase from January 2009.
The price of unleaded gasoline never reached the 10-year high of $4.09 back in July 2008 under George W. Bush’s administration, but it did get close.
By May 2011, gas prices hit a high under the Obama administration at $3.93, about four percentage points away from the July 2008 high.
The U.S. city average retail price for one pound of 100 percent ground beef was $2.36 in January 2009. As of December 2011, that price had risen to $2.92—a 23.7 percent increase and a new peak. (Ground beef prices have risen every month since November 2009 – 26 months of price increases.)
Whole wheat bread prices from January 2009 to December 2011 increased about five percent (5.02 percent) from $1.97 to $2.07. (The inflation rate in December 2011 was 3.0 percent.)
Among the first 36 months of Obama’s presidency, the last four (September, October, November, December) showed the average price of one pound of whole wheat bread hovering slightly above two dollars.
Other refrigerated items like ice cream and bacon have increased by substantial amounts.
Ice cream prices, for a half-gallon, were $4.44 in January 2009 and $5.25 in December 2011, an increase of 19.1 percent.
One pound of sliced bacon in January 2009 was $3.73 and in December 2011 had climbed $4.55, an increase of 22 percent. The price hit a high in September 2011 at $4.82 per pound.
Whole milk prices averaged above three dollars 33 out of the 36 months since Obama took office. In January 2009, the price for one gallon of whole milk was $3.58; but by December 2011, milk prices had slightly declined less than one percent (0.28 percent) to $3.57 per gallon.
The average retail price of Grade A eggs per dozen from January 2009 to December 2011 increased by less than two percent (1.30 percent) from $1.85 to $1.87.

travelinman67 wrote:Yet, remarkably, consumer goods pricing under The Great O has averaged double digits for many "daily" consumables...
...during a recession.(?)
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/under-o ... 22-percent
Energy price increases = economic inflation.So far, during the presidency of Barack Obama, the price of a gallon of gasoline has jumped 83 percent, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
During the same period, the price of ground beef has gone up 24 percent and price of bacon has gone up 22 percent.
When Obama entered the White House in January 2009, the city average price for one gallon of regular unleaded gasoline was $1.79, according to the BLS. (The figures are in nominal dollars: not adjusted for inflation.) Five months later in June, unleaded gasoline was $2.26 per gallon, an increase of 26 percent. By December 2011, the price of regular unleaded gas per gallon was $3.28, an 83 percent increase from January 2009.
The price of unleaded gasoline never reached the 10-year high of $4.09 back in July 2008 under George W. Bush’s administration, but it did get close.
By May 2011, gas prices hit a high under the Obama administration at $3.93, about four percentage points away from the July 2008 high.
The U.S. city average retail price for one pound of 100 percent ground beef was $2.36 in January 2009. As of December 2011, that price had risen to $2.92—a 23.7 percent increase and a new peak. (Ground beef prices have risen every month since November 2009 – 26 months of price increases.)
Whole wheat bread prices from January 2009 to December 2011 increased about five percent (5.02 percent) from $1.97 to $2.07. (The inflation rate in December 2011 was 3.0 percent.)
Among the first 36 months of Obama’s presidency, the last four (September, October, November, December) showed the average price of one pound of whole wheat bread hovering slightly above two dollars.
Other refrigerated items like ice cream and bacon have increased by substantial amounts.
Ice cream prices, for a half-gallon, were $4.44 in January 2009 and $5.25 in December 2011, an increase of 19.1 percent.
One pound of sliced bacon in January 2009 was $3.73 and in December 2011 had climbed $4.55, an increase of 22 percent. The price hit a high in September 2011 at $4.82 per pound.
Whole milk prices averaged above three dollars 33 out of the 36 months since Obama took office. In January 2009, the price for one gallon of whole milk was $3.58; but by December 2011, milk prices had slightly declined less than one percent (0.28 percent) to $3.57 per gallon.
The average retail price of Grade A eggs per dozen from January 2009 to December 2011 increased by less than two percent (1.30 percent) from $1.85 to $1.87.![]()
So long as the Libs insist on artificially driving up carbon fuel prices, inflation will continue, the economy will decline.

I generally take the train from Grand Forks to the Twin Cities and watch it run over a couple wolves on the way.Cap'n Cat wrote:We shouldn't be driving cars, anyway, T.


If it was McCain instead:Gil Dobie wrote:If there is nobody better than Obama, maybe he should get re-elected. I doubt McCain would have done better. The problem is the best people to govern the country don't get to the finals for each of the major parties.