What liberties has Obama taken away from you???travelinman67 wrote:You did.dbackjon wrote:
Can I vote on YOUR civil liberties?
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What liberties has Obama taken away from you???travelinman67 wrote:You did.dbackjon wrote:
Can I vote on YOUR civil liberties?
Next.

So are you.89Hen wrote: You're gonna have to do better than that.

It's not derogatory.......it's a term to describe adult heterosexuals and backed up by the Bible.89Hen wrote:I'd hate to see what you do consider derogatory.mainejeff wrote:I don't consider the term "breeder" as being derogatory......just a common label that identifies a group whose main purpose in life is clearly defined by the Bible and clearly singled out by government.
What if those adults aren't Christian? Are they still breeders?mainejeff wrote:It's not derogatory.......it's a term to describe adult heterosexuals and backed up by the Bible.89Hen wrote: I'd hate to see what you do consider derogatory.

Well duh.Ibanez wrote:Agreed. Just b/c I **** vaginas doesn't mean I want to procreate. On the contrary. Jeff you must either be gay or asexual.mainejeff wrote:
Nothing worse than uppity breeders who have special rights.
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Yeah....I really wish we went by what the bible says.mainejeff wrote:Well duh.Ibanez wrote:
Agreed. Just b/c I **** vaginas doesn't mean I want to procreate. On the contrary. Jeff you must either be gay or asexual.
I know that.........but the Bible tells us differently.

In my mind and under the laws of our federal government.......yes. In the Bible eyes........since they aren't Christian, they are probably considered evil and right up there with the gays.Ibanez wrote:What if those adults aren't Christian? Are they still breeders?mainejeff wrote:
It's not derogatory.......it's a term to describe adult heterosexuals and backed up by the Bible.

I don't go by what the Bible says, but obviously a majority of Americans do........so I am using that as a reference. According to the Bible I am evil, not worthy of God, and forever cast into damnation.......and according to the laws of our country, I am not worthy of the rights that a majority of Americans enjoy.grizzaholic wrote:Yeah....I really wish we went by what the bible says.mainejeff wrote:
Well duh.
I know that.........but the Bible tells us differently.

Why post about what the bible says if you don't agree/do so?mainejeff wrote:I don't go by what the Bible says, but obviously a majority of Americans do........so I am using that as a reference. According to the Bible I am evil, not worthy of God, and forever cast into damnation.......and according to the laws of our country, I am not worthy of the rights that a majority of Americans enjoy.grizzaholic wrote:
Yeah....I really wish we went by what the bible says.

I'd rather have the people vote on certain issues that corrupt career politicians. Cmon - I haven't heard one Republican not argue for smaller government - why should the NJ legislature make that decision?dbackjon wrote:bluehenbillk wrote:Christie wants every voting person in the State of New Jersey to decide through a referendum.
What exactly is wrong with that?
Can I vote on YOUR civil liberties?
Because it makes his arguement. DAMNIT!grizzaholic wrote:Why post about what the bible says if you don't agree/do so?mainejeff wrote:
I don't go by what the Bible says, but obviously a majority of Americans do........so I am using that as a reference. According to the Bible I am evil, not worthy of God, and forever cast into damnation.......and according to the laws of our country, I am not worthy of the rights that a majority of Americans enjoy.

Because I'm using it as a reference that most Americans understand and believe in.grizzaholic wrote:Why post about what the bible says if you don't agree/do so?mainejeff wrote:
I don't go by what the Bible says, but obviously a majority of Americans do........so I am using that as a reference. According to the Bible I am evil, not worthy of God, and forever cast into damnation.......and according to the laws of our country, I am not worthy of the rights that a majority of Americans enjoy.

[youtube][/youtube]mainejeff wrote:Because I'm using it as a reference that most Americans understand and believe in.grizzaholic wrote:
Why post about what the bible says if you don't agree/do so?![]()
I may not agree with it........but I'm not going to deny that it exists and plays a HUGE role in our country and its laws.

You're right......all government should be out of the marriage business.bluehenbillk wrote:I'd rather have the people vote on certain issues that corrupt career politicians. Cmon - I haven't heard one Republican not argue for smaller government - why should the NJ legislature make that decision?dbackjon wrote:
Can I vote on YOUR civil liberties?

No. Jon has MANY times made gay marriage the single issue on whether he believes a politician is good or not. You could at least try to come up with something besides coffee.mainejeff wrote:So are you.89Hen wrote: You're gonna have to do better than that.
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Isn't that what Americans that deny gays marriage rights are doing?grizzaholic wrote:[youtube][/youtube]mainejeff wrote:
Because I'm using it as a reference that most Americans understand and believe in.![]()
I may not agree with it........but I'm not going to deny that it exists and plays a HUGE role in our country and its laws.

By heterophobes.mainejeff wrote:It's not derogatory.......it's a term to describe adult heterosexuals...


I don't speak for Jon and I am not Jon........why are you arguing with me about him???89Hen wrote:No. Jon has MANY times made gay marriage the single issue on whether he believes a politician is good or not. You could at least try to come up with something besides coffee.mainejeff wrote:
So are you.
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Put a straight child and raise him/her in a strictly homosexual community and there is a chance that they will live a gay lifestyle later in life. I grew up at the beach but have no redneck tendencies. Had I been raised in the "country", I might have redneck tendencies. Environment plays a role in homosexuality, like everything else in life. I don't believe for a second that all gays were "born that way".Ibanez wrote:I don't think two dudes banging and sucking each other are "caught up in the scene" and are actually straight. I think you are retarded for saying that. DId you glue your mind shut?CAA Flagship wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that there are those that get "caught up in the scene" because of their environment.

mainejeff wrote:
I don't speak for Jon and I am not Jon.

I am not a "heterophobe". Why do you consider the term "breeder" derogatory? What does the Bible say about your existence on Earth as a heterosexual male (besides dominating the world89Hen wrote:By heterophobes.mainejeff wrote:It's not derogatory.......it's a term to describe adult heterosexuals...

Jeezus Christ........CAA Flagship wrote:Put a straight child and raise him/her in a strictly homosexual community and there is a chance that they will live a gay lifestyle later in life.

CAA Flagship wrote:Put a straight child and raise him/her in a strictly homosexual community and there is a chance that they will live a gay lifestyle later in life. I grew up at the beach but have no redneck tendencies. Had I been raised in the "country", I might have redneck tendencies. Environment plays a role in homosexuality, like everything else in life. I don't believe for a second that all gays were "born that way".Ibanez wrote: I don't think two dudes banging and sucking each other are "caught up in the scene" and are actually straight. I think you are retarded for saying that. DId you glue your mind shut?
The point I am trying to make here is that it is difficult to distinguish between born gay and those that choose to be based on environmental influences. This is much different than racial minorities. To lump gays into the "minority" category is not as clear cut.

That is exactly why the people shoud tackle this issue on its own merit, and not have it clouded with some other agenda.mainejeff wrote: Many people vote single issues......look at all of the Evangelical Conservatives.

Yeah.......because you know what I look like.......grizzaholic wrote:mainejeff wrote:
I don't speak for Jon and I am not Jon.
YUP. You are not Jon. You are Jeff.
WAIT. Hold up just a sec. Which Jeff are you? No worries, you both all look alike.