Most delusional people think that of themselves.dbackjon wrote:89Hen wrote: You're delusional.
Nope - very rational
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89Hen wrote:Only compared to Obama.UNI88 wrote:Clinton is a centrist
Yep. It's like us trying to claim that Romney is a centrist...only when compared to Santorum.
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A person's political ideology strongly influences their perception of who is and isn't a centrist. If you're a Republican, most Democrats are extremists and vice versa. IMO, Clinton is a centrist.AZGrizFan wrote:89Hen wrote: Only compared to Obama.![]()
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Yep. It's like us trying to claim that Romney is a centrist...only when compared to Santorum.
And who the heck knows what Romney really is? He's kind of like Obama in that he'll change his stripes in order to enhance his chances of winning a nomination or election. Unfortunately in this day and age, that same "adaptability" might make him more electable in a general election (if it can overcome his apparent lack of personality).
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UNI88 wrote:A person's political ideology strongly influences their perception of who is and isn't a centrist. If you're a Republican, most Democrats are extremists and vice versa. IMO, Clinton is a centrist.AZGrizFan wrote:![]()
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Yep. It's like us trying to claim that Romney is a centrist...only when compared to Santorum.
And who the heck knows what Romney really is? He's kind of like Obama in that he'll change his stripes in order to enhance his chances of winning a nomination or election. Unfortunately in this day and age, that same "adaptability" might make him more electable in a general election (if it can overcome his apparent lack of personality).
I have never had that perception of Obama, that he changes his stripes. Possibly in defense matters I suppose. But my take on Obama is that he will say one thing and do another, that isn't changin stripes that is lying.
On the other hand, Romney is exactly as you described. He changes his position depending on what office he is running for which of course is a different kind of lying without stripes.
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top 6
Obama (70%)
Biden (62%)
Paul (59%)
Clinton (54%)
Wells (44%)
Huckabee (38%)
bottom 6
Romney (18%)
Santorum (18%)
Bachmann (18%)
Pawlenty (17%)
Daniels (13%)
Trump (12%)
How I have Romney with the crazies is beyond me.
Obama (70%)
Biden (62%)
Paul (59%)
Clinton (54%)
Wells (44%)
Huckabee (38%)
bottom 6
Romney (18%)
Santorum (18%)
Bachmann (18%)
Pawlenty (17%)
Daniels (13%)
Trump (12%)
How I have Romney with the crazies is beyond me.

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Gawd, 88, with Obammer at 49% and Romney at 51%, andHillary and Palin both at 43%, you join GannonFan on the CS Split Nutsack Award: one ball on the left side of the fence, the other on the right.UNI88 wrote:The possible choices were definitely too limited. I am something of a centrist and while the either one extreme or the other choices didn't reflect my true views I did feel that most of the issues were to important to not make a selection. I found my results interesting. I would have thought that Mitch Daniels would have been higher.
1. Ideal Theoretical Candidate (100%)
2. Ron Paul* (70%)
3. Wayne Allyn Root (63%)
4. Newt Gingrich* (52%)
5. John Boehner (51%)
6. Mitt Romney* (51%)
7. Eric Cantor (50%)
8. Mike Pence (50%)
9. Lindsey Graham (50%)
10. Barack Obama* (49%)
11. Rick Santorum* (49%)
12. Rob Portman (48%)
13. Herman Cain (47%)
14. Michael Bloomberg (47%)
15. Gary Johnson* (44%)
16. Bobby Jindal (44%)
17. Joseph Biden (44%)
18. Hillary Clinton (43%)
19. Sarah Palin (43%)
20. Mike Huckabee (40%)
21. Tim Pawlenty (38%)
22. Mitch Daniels (36%)
23. Michele Bachmann (36%)
24. Rick Perry* (29%)
25. Buddy Roemer* (28%)
26. Jon Huntsman* (25%)
27. Jeb Bush (25%)
28. Haley Barbour (21%)
29. Donald Trump (20%)
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Well he is a mormon.Seahawks08 wrote:top 6
Obama (70%)
Biden (62%)
Paul (59%)
Clinton (54%)
Wells (44%)
Huckabee (38%)
bottom 6
Romney (18%)![]()
Santorum (18%)
Bachmann (18%)
Pawlenty (17%)
Daniels (13%)
Trump (12%)
How I have Romney with the crazies is beyond me.
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of course I am... I also don't have a problem with that. just as the board conks are partisan... a selector with 29 candidates and only 3 are dems - of course my top choices are dems... ironically, there isn't a far left liberal among the choices... there are conventional liberals (Obama) and moderate ones (Clinton) but you don't see a far left liberal like say Bernie Sanders on this list.89Hen wrote:Another partisan Dem. Shocker.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:1. Ideal Theoretical Candidate (100%)
2. Barack Obama* (94%)
3. Joseph Biden (89%)
4. Hillary Clinton (82%)
5. Michael Bloomberg (44%)
6. Mike Huckabee (28%)
7. Ron Paul* (27%)
8. Jon Huntsman* (22%)
9. Gary Johnson* (21%)
10. Wayne Allyn Root (21%)
hell of a dropoff...
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You would be hard pressed to find anyone on either side of the aisle to admit that Romney is anything but a centrist.AZGrizFan wrote:89Hen wrote: Only compared to Obama.![]()
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Yep. It's like us trying to claim that Romney is a centrist...only when compared to Santorum.
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Stop it! You are destroying 89's fantasy.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:of course I am... I also don't have a problem with that. just as the board conks are partisan... a selector with 29 candidates and only 3 are dems - of course my top choices are dems... ironically, there isn't a far left liberal among the choices... there are conventional liberals (Obama) and moderate ones (Clinton) but you don't see a far left liberal like say Bernie Sanders on this list.89Hen wrote: Another partisan Dem. Shocker.
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Romney isn't anything. He's a dishrag. He doesn't even know what he believes in beyond acquiring power.kalm wrote:You would be hard pressed to find anyone on either side of the aisle to admit that Romney is anything but a centrist.AZGrizFan wrote:![]()
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Yep. It's like us trying to claim that Romney is a centrist...only when compared to Santorum.
However - if you listen to his rhetoric during the campaign - Romney is saying more and more extreme things to try and mollify the GOP base. I don't think for a second he believes what he is saying... but he's crass enough to say anything.
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You mean like all the progressive things Obushma said he was going to do (close Gtmo, repeal Patriot Act, troops home, stop "torture"TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Romney isn't anything. He's a dishrag. He doesn't even know what he believes in beyond acquiring power.kalm wrote:
You would be hard pressed to find anyone on either side of the aisle to admit that Romney is anything but a centrist.
However - if you listen to his rhetoric during the campaign - Romney is saying more and more extreme things to try and mollify the GOP base. I don't think for a second he believes what he is saying... but he's crass enough to say anything.
Took a Republican congress to get DADT eliminated, Iraq war troops home, Bin Laden killed, and the unemployment rate to finally drop below 9%.
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wow... nice fishing...AZGrizFan wrote:Took a Republican congress to get DADT eliminated, Iraq war troops home, Bin Laden killed, and the unemployment rate to finally drop below 9%.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Romney isn't anything. He's a dishrag. He doesn't even know what he believes in beyond acquiring power.
However - if you listen to his rhetoric during the campaign - Romney is saying more and more extreme things to try and mollify the GOP base. I don't think for a second he believes what he is saying... but he's crass enough to say anything.![]()
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will only bite to refute the only one of those things that had anything to do with the legislative branch. DADT repeal was passed by the rump session of the Dem congress. Passed in 2010 - after the election. Signed in December of 2010... nice try though.
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You also missed the point. It's not that your top three were Dems, it's that you were 94% in agreement with Obama and only 28% with any R. I'd have to go back and look but I think Ivy was the only conservative to have such a disparity in the numbers.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:of course I am... I also don't have a problem with that. just as the board conks are partisan... a selector with 29 candidates and only 3 are dems - of course my top choices are dems... ironically, there isn't a far left liberal among the choices... there are conventional liberals (Obama) and moderate ones (Clinton) but you don't see a far left liberal like say Bernie Sanders on this list.

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Damn...they're onto me....TwinTownBisonFan wrote:wow... nice fishing...AZGrizFan wrote:
Took a Republican congress to get DADT eliminated, Iraq war troops home, Bin Laden killed, and the unemployment rate to finally drop below 9%.![]()
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will only bite to refute the only one of those things that had anything to do with the legislative branch. DADT repeal was passed by the rump session of the Dem congress. Passed in 2010 - after the election. Signed in December of 2010... nice try though.
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Uh, no he really didn't. In fact, it's a known fact that enhanced interrogation techniques led to getting Bin Laden.Seahawks08 wrote:uh yea he kinda did stop that...stop "torture"
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Now Z, cut that out. It's not fair to bring up inconvenient facts about O's campaign promises vs. his performance. He should be judged by what he says, not by about what took place.AZGrizFan wrote:Uh, no he really didn't. In fact, it's a known fact that enhanced interrogation techniques led to getting Bin Laden.Seahawks08 wrote:
uh yea he kinda did stop that...
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Obama doesn't so much change his stripes as not show them completely. Obama likes to speak in broad generalities so that the party faithful can interpret his words in the way they want. That leads each of the many special interest groups to interpret that Obama was/is going to champion their causes. They feel betrayed when he doesn't.OL FU wrote:UNI88 wrote:
A person's political ideology strongly influences their perception of who is and isn't a centrist. If you're a Republican, most Democrats are extremists and vice versa. IMO, Clinton is a centrist.
And who the heck knows what Romney really is? He's kind of like Obama in that he'll change his stripes in order to enhance his chances of winning a nomination or election. Unfortunately in this day and age, that same "adaptability" might make him more electable in a general election (if it can overcome his apparent lack of personality).
I have never had that perception of Obama, that he changes his stripes. Possibly in defense matters I suppose. But my take on Obama is that he will say one thing and do another, that isn't changin stripes that is lying.
On the other hand, Romney is exactly as you described. He changes his position depending on what office he is running for which of course is a different kind of lying without stripes.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
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It will probably be difficult for MAQA yahoos to overcome the Qult programming but they should give being rational & reasonable a try.
Thank you for your attention to this matter - UNI88
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In other words, he feels their pain?UNI88 wrote:Obama doesn't so much change his stripes as not show them completely. Obama likes to speak in broad generalities so that the party faithful can interpret his words in the way they want. That leads each of the many special interest groups to interpret that Obama was/is going to champion their causes. They feel betrayed when he doesn't.OL FU wrote:
I have never had that perception of Obama, that he changes his stripes. Possibly in defense matters I suppose. But my take on Obama is that he will say one thing and do another, that isn't changin stripes that is lying.
On the other hand, Romney is exactly as you described. He changes his position depending on what office he is running for which of course is a different kind of lying without stripes.
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In other words, he feels their pain?UNI88 wrote:Obama doesn't so much change his stripes as not show them completely. Obama likes to speak in broad generalities so that the party faithful can interpret his words in the way they want. That leads each of the many special interest groups to interpret that Obama was/is going to champion their causes. They feel betrayed when he doesn't.OL FU wrote:
I have never had that perception of Obama, that he changes his stripes. Possibly in defense matters I suppose. But my take on Obama is that he will say one thing and do another, that isn't changin stripes that is lying.
On the other hand, Romney is exactly as you described. He changes his position depending on what office he is running for which of course is a different kind of lying without stripes.
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Plausible deniability.Seahawks08 wrote:hmm inconvenient facts you say?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... f-torture/
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AZGrizFan wrote:Plausible deniability.Seahawks08 wrote:hmm inconvenient facts you say?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... f-torture/
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