Drug War Opinion Piece
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Basically holding that law enforcement has become corrupted and out of whack in terms of its priorities by virtue of the fact that there are financial incentives for pursuing the "Drug War."
Basically holding that law enforcement has become corrupted and out of whack in terms of its priorities by virtue of the fact that there are financial incentives for pursuing the "Drug War."
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Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ. 
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Like the wars on "poverty" and "terrorism", the "war on drugs" is nothing more than a P.R. effort by both political parties...and a drain on our economy...
You cannot fight a thing...and the more government money you focus on a nebulous thing, the more corruption you develop by people with an interest in extending that "war"...
You cannot fight a thing...and the more government money you focus on a nebulous thing, the more corruption you develop by people with an interest in extending that "war"...
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Col Hogan wrote:Like the wars on "poverty" and "terrorism", the "war on drugs" is nothing more than a P.R. effort by both political parties...and a drain on our economy...
You cannot fight a thing...and the more government money you focus on a nebulous thing, the more corruption you develop by people with an interest in extending that "war"...
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Re: Drug War Opinion Piece
Police departments have been talking about this issue for years. It is nothing new.
Police administrators love seizures and will toe the line when talking about narco enforcement. Rank and file officers are largely for legalization of most narcotics that are currently illegal.
Police administrators love seizures and will toe the line when talking about narco enforcement. Rank and file officers are largely for legalization of most narcotics that are currently illegal.
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Re: Drug War Opinion Piece
That's a solid article.JohnStOnge wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 2%7C115641
Basically holding that law enforcement has become corrupted and out of whack in terms of its priorities by virtue of the fact that there are financial incentives for pursuing the "Drug War."
Recently, in response to Ron Paul's assertion that the drug war has failed, Gingrich was asked about his solution to this problem. Gingrich's answer to the failed drug war: put your boot on the neck of drug users:
Small business loans, farm aid, disaster relief, heating assistance, food stamps, early childhood education, student loans, GI Bill, VA health and disability benefits, children's health insurance... that's a lot of testing, we'll soon need a separate cabinet level department."I think that we need to consider taking more explicit steps to make it expensive to be a drug user. It could be through testing before you get any kind of federal aid. Unemployment compensation, food stamps, you name it."
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Surprised he didn't suggest making drug use a capital offense.biobengal wrote:That's a solid article.JohnStOnge wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 2%7C115641
Basically holding that law enforcement has become corrupted and out of whack in terms of its priorities by virtue of the fact that there are financial incentives for pursuing the "Drug War."
Recently, in response to Ron Paul's assertion that the drug war has failed, Gingrich was asked about his solution to this problem. Gingrich's answer to the failed drug war: put your boot on the neck of drug users:Small business loans, farm aid, disaster relief, heating assistance, food stamps, early childhood education, student loans, GI Bill, VA health and disability benefits, children's health insurance... that's a lot of testing, we'll soon need a separate cabinet level department."I think that we need to consider taking more explicit steps to make it expensive to be a drug user. It could be through testing before you get any kind of federal aid. Unemployment compensation, food stamps, you name it."
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So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?Grizalltheway wrote:Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ.
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Thanks Tman and AZ for being fucking blockheads.AZGrizFan wrote:So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?Grizalltheway wrote:Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ.
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While you've had your head buried firmly up your ass in recent months, more has been done to "ruin" this nation in the past 30 months than in the past 30 YEARS combined.D1B wrote:Thanks Tman and AZ for being fucking blockheads.AZGrizFan wrote:
So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?
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Re: Drug War Opinion Piece
Yeah. That's exactly the point the article makes.AZGrizFan wrote:So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?Grizalltheway wrote:Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ.
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Re: Drug War Opinion Piece
Sorry Z, but you're fucked in the head. Get some help before you drag others down with you.AZGrizFan wrote:While you've had your head buried firmly up your ass in recent months, more has been done to "ruin" this nation in the past 30 months than in the past 30 YEARS combined.D1B wrote:
Thanks Tman and AZ for being fucking blockheads.![]()
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All their specific evidence is from CHICAGO. The rest are just accusations, BS claims and other unadulterated bullshit. So, we've firmly established Chicago cops are crooked. Stop the fucking presses.Grizalltheway wrote:Yeah. That's exactly the point the article makes.AZGrizFan wrote:
So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?
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"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
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You're actually saying only Chicago cops are corrupt!?AZGrizFan wrote:All their specific evidence is from CHICAGO. The rest are just accusations, BS claims and other unadulterated bullshit. So, we've firmly established Chicago cops are crooked. Stop the fucking presses.Grizalltheway wrote:
Yeah. That's exactly the point the article makes.![]()
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No, I'm saying that's all this opinion piece has verified. Try and keep up.D1B wrote:You're actually saying only Chicago cops are corrupt!?AZGrizFan wrote:
All their specific evidence is from CHICAGO. The rest are just accusations, BS claims and other unadulterated bullshit. So, we've firmly established Chicago cops are crooked. Stop the fucking presses.![]()
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What a fuckin moron.
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I would rather follow AZ into the great unknown than you.D1B wrote:Sorry Z, but you're fucked in the head. Get some help before you drag others down with you.AZGrizFan wrote: While you've had your head buried firmly up your ass in recent months, more has been done to "ruin" this nation in the past 30 months than in the past 30 YEARS combined.![]()
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You're a moron. You need blog writers to provide you your facts?AZGrizFan wrote:No, I'm saying that's all this opinion piece has verified. Try and keep up.D1B wrote:
You're actually saying only Chicago cops are corrupt!?What a fuckin moron.
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Get out more, Z. See the world.
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Newt going bat-sheet crazy:
Wonderful, can't wait for 2012.
Yes, Newt, they kill them.If you’re serious about the latter view, then we need to think through a strategy that makes it radically less likely that we’re going to have drugs in this country. Places like Singapore have been the most successful at doing that. They’ve been very draconian. And they have communicated with great intention that they intend to stop drugs from coming into their country.
Wonderful, can't wait for 2012.
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I rest my case.D1B wrote:You're a moron. You need blog writers to provide you your facts?AZGrizFan wrote:
No, I'm saying that's all this opinion piece has verified. Try and keep up.
Get out more, Z. See the world.
Fuckin' "bloggers" that think they're journalists.
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Newt loves the way Singapore deals with drugs....
According to Amnesty International, about 420 people have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drugs offences.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4487366.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
According to Amnesty International, about 420 people have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drugs offences.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4487366.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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DOOOOOD, start your own thread.... this here is for pot heads.AZGrizFan wrote:I rest my case.D1B wrote:
You're a moron. You need blog writers to provide you your facts?
Get out more, Z. See the world.![]()
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Really can't help but chuckle at the irony of that.biobengal wrote:Newt loves the way Singapore deals with drugs....
According to Amnesty International, about 420 people have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drugs offences.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4487366.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Well... if you're going to guess...Grizalltheway wrote:Really can't help but chuckle at the irony of that.biobengal wrote:Newt loves the way Singapore deals with drugs....
According to Amnesty International, about 420 people have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drugs offences.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4487366.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
IMO, if Missoula had the same kill em' all drug laws as Singapore.... Griz attendance would be much reduced. Just my humble first hand personal enjoyable experience.
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Add this to my looooong list of reason why I want to see narcotics legalized:
Reason #23856: So we can tax the sh!t out of D1B's mary jane ciggies and spend the money on healthcare for the bums down at the shelta.
Reason #23856: So we can tax the sh!t out of D1B's mary jane ciggies and spend the money on healthcare for the bums down at the shelta.
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The war on drugs is pathetic. It's a medical issue. When you criminalize something we can all grow in our backyard that is less harmful than booze the demand for it is going to create situations like following and the resulting narco-industrial complex that goes along with it.
Btw, nice catch on the 420, GATW, this ones for you and check the guys name.
Btw, nice catch on the 420, GATW, this ones for you and check the guys name.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource. ... ug=1700731" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Rancher Held Onto Land But Landed In Prison -- Marijuana Operation Was Apparently Seen As Road Out Of Debt
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ODESSA, Lincoln County - Folks in Lincoln County knew Bud King as a man who took risks trying to hang onto the family's cattle ranch.
But in an apparent attempt to get out from under heavy debt so he could leave the spread to his sons, King took one risk too many.
Yesterday, the 59-year-old grandfather and second-generation rancher began serving a five-year prison term at Geiger Corrections Center near Spokane for his role in the biggest marijuana-growing operation to come to authorities' attention in state history.
King's arrest during a Sept. 9 raid on the King Brothers Ranch stunned neighbors who knew him as a man with a big stride, a cowboy hat, a can of chewing tobacco and a kerchief hanging out of the back pocket of his jeans.
"Everybody in town was really shocked, and they're still talking about it," said Denny McDaniel, mayor in this community of about 1,000 people. "That kind of thing just doesn't happen here."
Agents seized 6,000 mature marijuana plants in the raid. The high-grade Indigo marijuana hybrid had been grown between rows of corn on the 2,000-acre ranch since 1988, prosecutors said.




