Ninety-Nine Percent?

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:05 pm

So, do y'all think 99% support shutting down Wall Street right now? Think maybe some people with 401-Ks and related retirement investments might not want that?

Do y'all think 99% like to see people keeping them from going to work, blocking roads and bridges, etc.?

Post by **kalm** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:57 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:So, do y'all think 99% support shutting down Wall Street right now? Think maybe some people with 401-Ks and related retirement investments might not want that?

Do y'all think 99% like to see people keeping them from going to work, blocking roads and bridges, etc.?

1) Turn off Fox News

2) How many people have been unable to go to work?

Post by **BlueHen86** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:49 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:So, do y'all think 99% support shutting down Wall Street right now? Think maybe some people with 401-Ks and related retirement investments might not want that?

Do y'all think 99% like to see people keeping them from going to work, blocking roads and bridges, etc.?

Protests are supposed to be inconvenient.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:25 am

My Tea Partiers could beat up the Occupiers!

Post by **kalm** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:03 am

Ivytalk wrote:My Tea Partiers could beat up the Occupiers!

Post by **Ibanez** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:56 pm

kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:So, do y'all think 99% support shutting down Wall Street right now? Think maybe some people with 401-Ks and related retirement investments might not want that?

Do y'all think 99% like to see people keeping them from going to work, blocking roads and bridges, etc.?
1) Turn off Fox News

2) How many people have been unable to go to work?

I forget which city it was in but there was an occupation at a site that was scheduled for renovations and 1000 people could not go to work.

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Post by **kalm** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:48 pm

Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) Turn off Fox News

2) How many people have been unable to go to work?
I forget which city it was in but there was an occupation at a site that was scheduled for renovations and 1000 people could not go to work.

Sent from my iPhone using my mind powers.

Well that's a poor choice to hold a demonstration then.

Post by **Ibanez** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:57 am

kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I forget which city it was in but there was an occupation at a site that was scheduled for renovations and 1000 people could not go to work.

Sent from my iPhone using my mind powers.
Well that's a poor choice to hold a demonstration then.

locally, they have met in parks near the police station but this week they are organizing at Marion Square, named after Francis Marion. I wonder if they use the statue of John C. Calhoun as a piece?

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Post by **kalm** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:15 am

Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
Well that's a poor choice to hold a demonstration then.
locally, they have met in parks near the police station but this week they are organizing at Marion Square, named after Francis Marion. I wonder if they use the statue of John C. Calhoun as a piece?

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Why can't George Soros just buy them some Honeybuckets or maybe a few campers and some spare change to feed the meters?

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:31 am

Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) Turn off Fox News

2) How many people have been unable to go to work?
I forget which city it was in but there was an occupation at a site that was scheduled for renovations and 1000 people could not go to work.

Sent from my iPhone using my mind powers.

It's in Philly - the city had planned to do major rennovations to the plaza that the Occupiers are in right now. The permit to protest there was only good until the work was to begin, but the Occupiers aren't moving, so yes, all those construction jobs are now not working. Between that and jamming the NYC subway system so that regular folks can't get to work (fat cats aren't riding public transportation) the movement has really gone about sticking it to the 1% in a weird way. It's like that old adage Jerry Tarkanien used about the NCAA - the NCAA was so upset at Kentucky that they put Cleveland State on probation.

death dealer · Post by **death dealer** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:08 pm

It wasn't that long ago that I was in the 99%. But I didn't like the benefits package so I upgraded. It wasn't an easy row to hoe, but nothing worth doing usually is. Not to imply that everyone can "make it". They can't. But life is full of winners and losers. That's just how it goes. Should should App have to give back those three natIonal championships they won just because it's not fair that everyone else couldn't win too. Aww, they should have to share that shit with everyone else, right?

Post by **BlueHen86** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:36 pm

GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I forget which city it was in but there was an occupation at a site that was scheduled for renovations and 1000 people could not go to work.

Sent from my iPhone using my mind powers.
It's in Philly - the city had planned to do major rennovations to the plaza that the Occupiers are in right now. The permit to protest there was only good until the work was to begin, but the Occupiers aren't moving, so yes, all those construction jobs are now not working. Between that and jamming the NYC subway system so that regular folks can't get to work (fat cats aren't riding public transportation) the movement has really gone about sticking it to the 1% in a weird way. It's like that old adage Jerry Tarkanien used about the NCAA - the NCAA was so upset at Kentucky that they put Cleveland State on probation.

I suspect that only 1% of the movement knows what they are protesting for, the other 99% percent are protesting just for the sake of protesting. They might not even be protesting, they might just be "hanging out".

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:38 pm

Turn off Fox News

So are you saying they didn't have a "shut down Wall Street" thing going on last week?

Here's an ABC News Report:

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First of all, Fox News is well within the normal range of "accuracy" for televised News. I understand that "progressives" find it necessary to engender doubts about Fox News because Fox News is more likely to point things contrary to the "progressive" cause out than some other news sources are. But, regardless, this was not a "Fox News" thing.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:04 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Turn off Fox News
So are you saying they didn't have a "shut down Wall Street" thing going on last week?

Here's an ABC News Report:

[youtube][/youtube]

First of all, Fox News is well within the normal range of "accuracy" for televised News. I understand that "progressives" find it necessary to engender doubts about Fox News because Fox News is more likely to point things contrary to the "progressive" cause out than some other news sources are. But, regardless, this was not a "Fox News" thing.

If that's true then the normal range of "accuracy" sucks, as does Fox News (and most other network news outlets). Just report the news and don't try and tell me what to think about it. There is little neutrality in news reporting these days.

Post by **kalm** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:40 am

BlueHen86 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
So are you saying they didn't have a "shut down Wall Street" thing going on last week?

Here's an ABC News Report:

[youtube][/youtube]

First of all, Fox News is well within the normal range of "accuracy" for televised News. I understand that "progressives" find it necessary to engender doubts about Fox News because Fox News is more likely to point things contrary to the "progressive" cause out than some other news sources are. But, regardless, this was not a "Fox News" thing.

If that's true then the normal range of "accuracy" sucks, as does Fox News (and most other network news outlets). Just report the news and don't try and tell me what to think about it. There is little neutrality in news reporting these days.

Yep. Fox is simply a right wing slanted version of a msm controlled by large corporations that represent entrenched power and who are going to resent any criticism of the ruling elite. And it's not just Fox. CNN's Erin Burnett (formerly of CNBC and who btw is sssaaaamokin' hot) is engaged to a citigroup exec and spent her formative years as an embedded Wall Street reporter sniffing the jocks of insiders to get a scoop on the markets. Any wonder why she mocks the 99% and their silly little rallies? Or MSNBC's "Morning Joe" who's idea of putting a "progressive" on the show is Harold Ford Jr or Andrew Ross Sorkin. 'See! We're not like Fox, we populate our longest and most popular show with all sorts of corporatist blue dog douchebags!

In MSNBC's defense they do have one outlier in Dylan Ratigan who is well credentialed in the world of finance and very critical of the status quo. I'm surprised he's lasted there as long as he has.

Comedy Central still has superior news reporting to cable and network news.

Go back and check out Jon Stewart's skewering of Jim Cramer (also now appearing on 'Morning Joe') and CNBC's coverage of the crash if you don't believe. And watch the full interview with Cramer it's some powerful stuff.

OWS blames it all on Wall Street. Wall Street and it's media lap dogs blame it all on the poor people. The answer is somewhere left of middle.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:10 am

If that's true then the normal range of "accuracy" sucks,

I think it does. Can't prove it but my own experience makes me believe it. As I've written before: Every time I've been involved in something that caught the attention of the news media so that I could compare the reality of the situation to how the news media portrayed it...the impressions they created...the news media got it wrong. Created false impressions. Some instances worse than others. But always a substantially distored portrayal.

I can remember once being interviewed by a reporter for maybe an hour. I could tell what he wanted me to say and I was very careful not to fall into it. I said all sorts of things. Lots of talking. Basically it was during the "seafood is dangerous" craze of the late 80s and he was trying to get me to say that coastal development was making seafood dangerous. Finally he asked me about a very specific situation and I said that this particular kind of development "Does create the potential..." that a certain type of fishing area would have to be closed. Didn't say it'd make the seafood involved necessarily dangerous. Just that certain rules on the books would automatically require that a certain extent of area would have to be closed (even if there was no evidence of actual contamination).

So...sure enough...when the piece came out it had that one statement in it out of context and nothing else I said. It was skillfully woven into a bunch of other fragments from other sources to...you guessed it...create the false impression that seafood safety was being threatened by coastal development.

And that BP oil spill thing. That was ridiculous. To this day there are people out there claiming that there is a problem with Gulf Seafood when there's not a shred of evidence that there is. In fact there are mountains of evidence that it isn't. There's a lot more evidence that Gulf Seafood is safe right now than there is to validate the safety of seafood from anywhere else on the planet.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:22 pm

death dealer · Post by **death dealer** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:58 am

grizzaholic wrote:

my Starbucks in the plastic lined to go cup that is marked as recyclable to make my pseudo-intellectual side happy, but is lined with plastic, which renders it anything but recyclable, but keeps my coffee super hot, which makes my real selfish self-absorbed pretentious side happy.

Oh, and that fat cop on the end is giving him the serious hog-eye. He's thinking that when that camera is gone he's gonna fuck this little prick up in a serious way.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:26 pm

death dealer wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
my Starbucks in the plastic lined to go cup that is marked as recyclable to make my pseudo-intellectual side happy, but is lined with plastic, which renders it anything but recyclable, but keeps my coffee super hot, which makes my real selfish self-absorbed pretentious side happy.

Oh, and that fat cop on the end is giving him the serious hog-eye. He's thinking that when that camera is gone he's gonna fuck this little prick up in a serious way.

I thought he looked kinda like the guy who sings "Scotty doesn't know" from Eurotrip.

Post by **kalm** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:43 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
death dealer wrote: my Starbucks in the plastic lined to go cup that is marked as recyclable to make my pseudo-intellectual side happy, but is lined with plastic, which renders it anything but recyclable, but keeps my coffee super hot, which makes my real selfish self-absorbed pretentious side happy.

Oh, and that fat cop on the end is giving him the serious hog-eye. He's thinking that when that camera is gone he's gonna fuck this little prick up in a serious way.
I thought he looked kinda like the guy who sings "Scotty doesn't know" from Eurotrip.

Matt Damon? Good reference though. That movie cracks me up.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:45 pm

kalm wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
I thought he looked kinda like the guy who sings "Scotty doesn't know" from Eurotrip.
Matt Damon? Good reference though. That movie cracks me up.

That is him? Nice. Good little flick, I agree.

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