Shorter College bans gay employees:

[JohnStOnge]

BTW, I drink. A lot. So the pledge thing would probably affect me too. But I still support the school's right to make whatever rules it wants for the people it hires. If it wanted to say, "We won't hire people who need vision correction" I'd support that too even though I have vision correction. They should have the right to employ or not employ anybody they want to employ or not employ for whatever reason.

[BlueHen86]

BTW, I drink. A lot. So the pledge thing would probably affect me too. But I still support the school's right to make whatever rules it wants for the people it hires. If it wanted to say, "We won't hire people who need vision correction" I'd support that too even though I have vision correction. They should have the right to employ or not employ anybody they want to employ or not employ for whatever reason.

And if they didn't want to hire black people you're okay with that too?

[Skjellyfetti]

BTW, I drink. A lot. So the pledge thing would probably affect me too.

Pretty sure most jobs also discriminate against pedophiles. So, you're fucked there too.

[BlueHen86]

BTW, I drink. A lot. So the pledge thing would probably affect me too.

Pretty sure most jobs also discriminate against pedophiles. So, you're fucked there too.

[ODUsmitty]

Would people like skelly be upset if it was some extreme liberal school making people sign contracts that force them to engage in homosexual activity?

I'm pretty sure AppSt has that clause in there.

Yep, ASU has that policy. Listed right below the mandatory daily viewing of the infamous "Hot, Hot, Hot" video.

[Skjellyfetti]

Listed right below the mandatory daily viewing of the infamous "Hot, Hot, Hot" video.

Pretty sure its the haters that watch that on a daily basis.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Listed right below the mandatory daily viewing of the infamous "Hot, Hot, Hot" video.

Pretty sure its the haters that watch that on a daily basis.

Pretty sure this site needs to impose $5 fines for any use of the term "haters" by anyone but TJ.

[Grizalltheway]

Pretty sure its the haters that watch that on a daily basis.

Pretty sure this site needs to impose $5 fines for any use of the term "haters" by anyone but TJ, 89hen and ALPHAGRIZ1.

Fixed...

[grizzaholic]

Pretty sure its the haters that watch that on a daily basis.

Pretty sure this site needs to impose $5 fines for any use of the term "haters" by anyone but TJ.

[YoUDeeMan]

What about private all-female colleges that have students who receive federally subsidized student aid? Do you think Wellesley is in compliance with the law? If so, why were VMI and The Citadel forced to admit women?

They aren't STATE institutions.

The difference between el Cid and Wellesley or VMI and Wabash (all male school in Indiana) is that both Wellesley and Wabash are PRIVATE schools.

Those private schools do not discriminate under the law. They are private schools that are expressly single-gender.

It's two different laws at play here.

But do students at those private schools, who discriminate on gender, receive any federally subsidized student aid?

[kalm]

An example of why private colleges and universities should eschew any Federal fundiing. They get to keep their Liberty. At least I hope they do.

And liberty in this instance = thought police which you're against. So you support the school's right to do it but personally disagree with it like everyone else. Right?

[CID1990]

What about private all-female colleges that have students who receive federally subsidized student aid? Do you think Wellesley is in compliance with the law? If so, why were VMI and The Citadel forced to admit women?

They aren't STATE institutions.

The difference between el Cid and Wellesley or VMI and Wabash (all male school in Indiana) is that both Wellesley and Wabash are PRIVATE schools.

Those private schools do not discriminate under the law. They are private schools that are expressly single-gender.

It's two different laws at play here.

True.

However, since state funding for El Cid has dropped to about 20% of total operating costs, I'd say the school is just aboyt state-supported in name only. Maybe when they cut us off entirely (in favor of clempson, sc state and that diploma mill in myrtle beach) we can revisit the issue.

[89Hen]

And liberty in this instance = thought police

I thought people were born gay. You seem to insinuate that it's a conscious decision.

[kalm]

And liberty in this instance = thought police

I thought people were born gay. You seem to insinuate that it's a conscious decision.

Do I?

[89Hen]

I thought people were born gay. You seem to insinuate that it's a conscious decision.

Do I?

Are you?

[kalm]

Do I?

Are you?

No

[89Hen]

Are you?

No

Yes

[bluehenbillk]

I guess you can cross Shorter off 89's list of schools.

[89Hen]

I guess you can cross Shorter off 89's list of schools.

Definitely. While not gay, I fully support gay rights... for women.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

They aren't STATE institutions.

The difference between el Cid and Wellesley or VMI and Wabash (all male school in Indiana) is that both Wellesley and Wabash are PRIVATE schools.

Those private schools do not discriminate under the law. They are private schools that are expressly single-gender.

It's two different laws at play here.

But do students at those private schools, who discriminate on gender, receive any federally subsidized student aid?

Yes, and here's why: Private universities (as I understand the law) that had, before the passage of the law, not been co-ed were grandfathered in as exempt from the gender equity provision. (Both male and female... again Wabash and Wellesley both fit in to this) State run institutions were not exempted - as being government run, the government had much more say in their affairs. I can't say for sure, but looking at how this law has been handled, it would appear from the outside like the intent was to stave off lawsuits from the private schools... which makes sense.

[Ivytalk]

Now if Shorter banned the hiring of little people as well....

IT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE ITS NAME!

[CAA Flagship]

Now if Shorter banned the hiring of little people as well....

IT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE ITS NAME!

[SuperHornet]

Private schools aren't the only ones with "out there" teachings....

[ming01]

theyre a private college they should be able to hire whom they please

[JohnStOnge]

And if they didn't want to hire black people you're okay with that too?

Yes. You're not going to see me shrink from answering such a question.

This country is supposed to be about liberty. Unfortunately the People of the country seem to have lost sight of that.

When you hire somebody you should be able to hire who you want for any reason you want. When you opt NOT to hire somebody you should be able to opt NOT to hire them for any reason you want.

It is not...or should not be...the role of government to play "Daddy" and make you be nice to people.

You should have the right to decline to associate with anybody you wish to decline to associate with for whatever reason you have. Engaging in commerce should be a completely free and voluntary activity.