TSN Fathead top 25

Knucklehead · Post by **Knucklehead** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:01 am

1. Georgia Southern Eagles (131) 7-0 3,930 1
2. Northern Iowa Panthers (17) 6-1 3,768 2
3. North Dakota State Bison (10) 7-0 3,602 3
4. Montana State Bobcats (1) 7-1 3,548 4
5. Appalachian State Mountaineers 5-2 3,153 6
6. Sam Houston State Bearkats 7-0 3,104 7
7. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 6-1 2,850 8
8. Maine Black Bears 6-1 2,830 9
9. James Madison Dukes 5-2 2,515 11
10. New Hampshire Wildcats 5-2 2,340 13
11. Montana Grizzlies 6-2 2,334 12
12. Wofford Terriers 5-2 2,289 5
13. Towson Tigers 6-1 2,214 15
14. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 5-2 2,112 10
15. Old Dominion Monarchs 6-2 1,497 21
16. Alabama State Hornets 6-1 1,305 19
17. South Dakota Coyotes 5-3 930 25
18. William & Mary Tribe 4-4 896 14
19. Jackson State Tigers 6-1 863 23
20. Indiana State Sycamores 5-3 622 17
21. Delaware Blue Hens 4-4 513 16
22. Illinois State Redbirds 5-3 496 NR
23. Liberty Flames 5-3 480 NR
24. Harvard Crimson 5-1 388 NR
25. Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles 4-2 345 NR
Others receiving votes: Central Arkansas 303, Massachusetts 300, Richmond 297, Furman 256, Chattanooga 231, North Dakota 203, Cal Poly 200, Eastern Washington 141, Norfolk State 139, Brown 136, Albany 90, Jacksonville 79, Texas State 56, Alabama A&M 48, San Diego 29, Samford 27, Penn 23, Florida A&M 20, Southern Utah 20, Portland State 19, Georgetown 18, Sacramento State 16, Stony Brook 14, South Dakota State 12, UT Martin 12, Southern Illinois 10, Elon 10, Eastern Kentucky 8, McNeese State 6, Bethune-Cookman 5, South Carolina State 5, Duquesne 4, The Citadel 4, Youngstown State 3, Holy Cross 3, Northwestern State 2, Drake 1, Lafayette 1.

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:05 am

I have the same reaction I did when I watched Craig James say on ESPN last night that Boise St should be #10: "Now there's a guy that doesn't deserve to have a vote". More than a couple on here. 1-15 is generally OK, 16 down is a mess.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:07 am

When there is a poll why in gods name is there 38 teams below the 25 that someone thinks should be ranked? JESUS.

Post by **travelinman67** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:35 am

grizzaholic wrote:When there is a poll why in gods name is there 38 teams below the 25 that someone thinks should be ranked? JESUS.

Homers. That's why CS doesn't publish any below 35. Voters hoping to get a shill in the results, no longer waste their time and subsequently wind up taking the poll more seriously (IMHO).
As for TSN's bottom 9...just like CS's...the voting was all over the place. Some appear to be focused on WL, some on conference, others on sched. strength. Some programs traditionally start strong, then peter out, others vice-versa.

It's all very predictable and scientific.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:02 am

How in the fuck are UD and W&M ranked ahead of EWU? Oh yeah, ECB.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:09 am

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:How in the fuck are UD and W&M ranked ahead of EWU? Oh yeah, ECB.

None of us are going to the playoffs, so shut your whore mouth.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:10 am

93henfan wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:How in the fuck are UD and W&M ranked ahead of EWU? Oh yeah, ECB.
None of us are going to the playoffs, so shut your whore mouth.

If by us you mean CAA choke artists, you would be correct.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:19 am

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
None of us are going to the playoffs, so shut your whore mouth.
If by us you mean CAA choke artists, you would be correct.

I'm pretty sure I told you to shut your whore mouth.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:27 am

93henfan wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
If by us you mean CAA choke artists, you would be correct.
I'm pretty sure I told you to shut your whore mouth.

I did, but the prude one is still runnin'. You can't get this!

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:32 am

93henfan wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
If by us you mean CAA choke artists, you would be correct.
I'm pretty sure I told you to shut your whore mouth.

First off, SE, 93henfan politely asked you to shut your whore mouth.
Second, 93henfan, please don't use such awful language. Who taught you that?
Third, EWU may make the playoffs.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:42 am

grizzaholic wrote: Third, EWU may make the playoffs.

True. Their schedule, after the first four games, is a bit of a joke.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:43 am

grizzaholic wrote:
93henfan wrote:
I'm pretty sure I told you to shut your whore mouth.
First off, SE, 93henfan politely asked you to shut your whore mouth.
Second, 93henfan, please don't use such awful language. Who taught you that?
Third, EWU may make the playoffs.

They will win out and get in.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:44 am

93henfan wrote:
grizzaholic wrote: Third, EWU may make the playoffs.
True. Their schedule, after the first four games, is a bit of a joke.

Isn't Delaware not making the playoffs this year? So....it doesn't matter if their schedule sucks or not, if they make the post season and Delaware doesn't, it is a WIN for them. Just sayin'.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:46 am

93henfan wrote:
grizzaholic wrote: Third, EWU may make the playoffs.
True. Their schedule, after the first four games, is a bit of a joke.

Yeah, if only they had Rhode Island on the docket.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:50 am

Grizalltheway wrote:
93henfan wrote:
True. Their schedule, after the first four games, is a bit of a joke.
Yeah, if only they had Rhode Island on the docket.

GATW..you were supposed to reply with " yeah, I know. The Big Fluffy Sky is probably the weakest auto-bid conference in the nation. We should be thanking our lucky stars if more than one team makes the playoffs, we will probably lose in the first round anyways. Last year was either a fluke for EWU or it was just the mighty CAA/So Con/MVFC throwing a bone to the weak and feeble minded BFS."

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:56 am

grizzaholic wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, if only they had Rhode Island on the docket.
GATW..you were supposed to reply with " yeah, I know. The Big Fluffy Sky is probably the weakest auto-bid conference in the nation. We should be thanking our lucky stars if more than one team makes the playoffs, we will probably lose in the first round anyways. Last year was either a fluke for EWU or it was just the mighty CAA/So Con/MVFC throwing a bone to the weak and feeble minded BFS."

I think I already said in another thread that I believe the SoCon and Big Sky are better than the CAA. You guys invent shit on a fairly regular basis. You don't see me here saying any of the shit you made up there.

A recent example (see my comments): viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26907

The CAA has been the best conference in FCS for about seven or eight years running, but I think that run is over.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:58 am

93henfan wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
GATW..you were supposed to reply with " yeah, I know. The Big Fluffy Sky is probably the weakest auto-bid conference in the nation. We should be thanking our lucky stars if more than one team makes the playoffs, we will probably lose in the first round anyways. Last year was either a fluke for EWU or it was just the mighty CAA/So Con/MVFC throwing a bone to the weak and feeble minded BFS."
I think I already said in another thread that I believe the SoCon and Big Sky are better than the CAA. You guys invent shit on a fairly regular basis. You don't see me here saying any of the shit you made up there.

A recent example (see my comments): viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26907

sorry.

Friends?

Post by **EWURanger** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:08 pm

We don't deserve to be in the top 25 after an 0-4 start and currently sitting at .500. Win a couple more games, and then maybe we are in that discussion.

That said, I'd say UD and W & M shouldn't be in there for the same reasons.

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GrizFanStuckInUtah · Post by **GrizFanStuckInUtah** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:17 pm

Now you two be quiet........speaking of which, I need some quiet time.

grizzaholic wrote:

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:18 am

Knucklehead wrote:1. Georgia Southern Eagles (131) 7-0 3,930 1
2. Northern Iowa Panthers (17) 6-1 3,768 2
3. North Dakota State Bison (10) 7-0 3,602 3
4. Montana State Bobcats (1) 7-1 3,548 4
5. Appalachian State Mountaineers 5-2 3,153 6
6. Sam Houston State Bearkats 7-0 3,104 7
7. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 6-1 2,850 8
8. Maine Black Bears 6-1 2,830 9
9. James Madison Dukes 5-2 2,515 11
10. New Hampshire Wildcats 5-2 2,340 13
11. Montana Grizzlies 6-2 2,334 12
12. Wofford Terriers 5-2 2,289 5
13. Towson Tigers 6-1 2,214 15
14. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 5-2 2,112 10
15. Old Dominion Monarchs 6-2 1,497 21
16. Alabama State Hornets 6-1 1,305 19
17. South Dakota Coyotes 5-3 930 25
18. William & Mary Tribe 4-4 896 14
19. Jackson State Tigers 6-1 863 23
20. Indiana State Sycamores 5-3 622 17
21. Delaware Blue Hens 4-4 513 16
22. Illinois State Redbirds 5-3 496 NR
23. Liberty Flames 5-3 480 NR
24. Harvard Crimson 5-1 388 NR
25. Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles 4-2 345 NR
Others receiving votes: Central Arkansas 303, Massachusetts 300, Richmond 297, Furman 256, Chattanooga 231, North Dakota 203, Cal Poly 200, Eastern Washington 141, Norfolk State 139, Brown 136, Albany 90, Jacksonville 79, Texas State 56, Alabama A&M 48, San Diego 29, Samford 27, Penn 23, Florida A&M 20, Southern Utah 20, Portland State 19, Georgetown 18, Sacramento State 16, Stony Brook 14, South Dakota State 12, UT Martin 12, Southern Illinois 10, Elon 10, Eastern Kentucky 8, McNeese State 6, Bethune-Cookman 5, South Carolina State 5, Duquesne 4, The Citadel 4, Youngstown State 3, Holy Cross 3, Northwestern State 2, Drake 1, Lafayette 1.

Good to see the SWAC having some recognition nationally inspite of the fact they have no automatic playoff bid to play for at the end of the season

Post by **danefan** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:44 am

dal4018 wrote:
Knucklehead wrote:1. Georgia Southern Eagles (131) 7-0 3,930 1
2. Northern Iowa Panthers (17) 6-1 3,768 2
3. North Dakota State Bison (10) 7-0 3,602 3
4. Montana State Bobcats (1) 7-1 3,548 4
5. Appalachian State Mountaineers 5-2 3,153 6
6. Sam Houston State Bearkats 7-0 3,104 7
7. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 6-1 2,850 8
8. Maine Black Bears 6-1 2,830 9
9. James Madison Dukes 5-2 2,515 11
10. New Hampshire Wildcats 5-2 2,340 13
11. Montana Grizzlies 6-2 2,334 12
12. Wofford Terriers 5-2 2,289 5
13. Towson Tigers 6-1 2,214 15
14. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 5-2 2,112 10
15. Old Dominion Monarchs 6-2 1,497 21
16. Alabama State Hornets 6-1 1,305 19
17. South Dakota Coyotes 5-3 930 25
18. William & Mary Tribe 4-4 896 14
19. Jackson State Tigers 6-1 863 23
20. Indiana State Sycamores 5-3 622 17
21. Delaware Blue Hens 4-4 513 16
22. Illinois State Redbirds 5-3 496 NR
23. Liberty Flames 5-3 480 NR
24. Harvard Crimson 5-1 388 NR
25. Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles 4-2 345 NR
Others receiving votes: Central Arkansas 303, Massachusetts 300, Richmond 297, Furman 256, Chattanooga 231, North Dakota 203, Cal Poly 200, Eastern Washington 141, Norfolk State 139, Brown 136, Albany 90, Jacksonville 79, Texas State 56, Alabama A&M 48, San Diego 29, Samford 27, Penn 23, Florida A&M 20, Southern Utah 20, Portland State 19, Georgetown 18, Sacramento State 16, Stony Brook 14, South Dakota State 12, UT Martin 12, Southern Illinois 10, Elon 10, Eastern Kentucky 8, McNeese State 6, Bethune-Cookman 5, South Carolina State 5, Duquesne 4, The Citadel 4, Youngstown State 3, Holy Cross 3, Northwestern State 2, Drake 1, Lafayette 1.
Good to see the SWAC having some recognition nationally inspite of the fact they have no automatic playoff bid to play for at the end of the season

Why should they get any recognition? The resumes of at least the following three teams in OVC are better than either Alabama State or Jackson State.

Cal Poly Mustangs
Sep 3 - L at San Diego St, 21-49
Sep 10 - L at Montana, 23-37
Sep 17 - W vs. South Dakota St, 48-14
Sep 24 - L at Northern Ill, 30-47
Oct 1 - Open
Oct 8 - W vs. Central Oklahoma, 44-25
Oct 15 - W vs. Southern Utah, 31-27
Oct 22 - W at North Dakota, 23-19

Furman Paladins
Sep 3 - L at Coastal Carolina, 23-30
Sep 10 - W at Citadel, 16-6
Sep 17 - Open
Sep 24 - W vs. Presbyterian, 62-21
Oct 1 - W at Western Carolina, 47-21
Oct 8 - L vs. Samford, 21-26
Oct 15 - L at Ga Southern, 20-50
Oct 22 - W vs. Wofford, 26-21

Brown Bears
Sep 3 - Open
Sep 10 - Open
Sep 17 - W at Stony Brook, 21-20
Sep 23 - L at Harvard, 7-24
Oct 1 - W vs. Rhode Island, 35-21
Oct 8 - W vs. Holy Cross, 20-13
Oct 15 - W vs. Princeton, 34-0
Oct 22 - W at Cornell, 35-24

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:26 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:
93henfan wrote:
True. Their schedule, after the first four games, is a bit of a joke.
Yeah, if only they had Rhode Island on the docket.

This. URI would totally mitigate having UNC. Why did we schedule them!!!

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:08 pm

danefan wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Good to see the SWAC having some recognition nationally inspite of the fact they have no automatic playoff bid to play for at the end of the season
Why should they get any recognition? The resumes of at least the following three teams in OVC are better than either Alabama State or Jackson State.

Cal Poly Mustangs
Sep 3 - L at San Diego St, 21-49
Sep 10 - L at Montana, 23-37
Sep 17 - W vs. South Dakota St, 48-14
Sep 24 - L at Northern Ill, 30-47
Oct 1 - Open
Oct 8 - W vs. Central Oklahoma, 44-25
Oct 15 - W vs. Southern Utah, 31-27
Oct 22 - W at North Dakota, 23-19

Furman Paladins
Sep 3 - L at Coastal Carolina, 23-30
Sep 10 - W at Citadel, 16-6
Sep 17 - Open
Sep 24 - W vs. Presbyterian, 62-21
Oct 1 - W at Western Carolina, 47-21
Oct 8 - L vs. Samford, 21-26
Oct 15 - L at Ga Southern, 20-50
Oct 22 - W vs. Wofford, 26-21

Brown Bears
Sep 3 - Open
Sep 10 - Open
Sep 17 - W at Stony Brook, 21-20
Sep 23 - L at Harvard, 7-24
Oct 1 - W vs. Rhode Island, 35-21
Oct 8 - W vs. Holy Cross, 20-13
Oct 15 - W vs. Princeton, 34-0
Oct 22 - W at Cornell, 35-24

Why shouldn't they get recognition and by the way none of the teams you mentioned are in the OVC.Brown is in the IVY League,Furman is in the Southern Conference and Cal-Poly is in another league.

Post by **danefan** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:16 pm

dal4018 wrote:
danefan wrote:
Why should they get any recognition? The resumes of at least the following three teams in OVC are better than either Alabama State or Jackson State.

Cal Poly Mustangs
Sep 3 - L at San Diego St, 21-49
Sep 10 - L at Montana, 23-37
Sep 17 - W vs. South Dakota St, 48-14
Sep 24 - L at Northern Ill, 30-47
Oct 1 - Open
Oct 8 - W vs. Central Oklahoma, 44-25
Oct 15 - W vs. Southern Utah, 31-27
Oct 22 - W at North Dakota, 23-19

Furman Paladins
Sep 3 - L at Coastal Carolina, 23-30
Sep 10 - W at Citadel, 16-6
Sep 17 - Open
Sep 24 - W vs. Presbyterian, 62-21
Oct 1 - W at Western Carolina, 47-21
Oct 8 - L vs. Samford, 21-26
Oct 15 - L at Ga Southern, 20-50
Oct 22 - W vs. Wofford, 26-21

Brown Bears
Sep 3 - Open
Sep 10 - Open
Sep 17 - W at Stony Brook, 21-20
Sep 23 - L at Harvard, 7-24
Oct 1 - W vs. Rhode Island, 35-21
Oct 8 - W vs. Holy Cross, 20-13
Oct 15 - W vs. Princeton, 34-0
Oct 22 - W at Cornell, 35-24
Why shouldn't they get recognition and by the way none of the teams you mentioned are in the OVC.Brown is in the IVY League,Furman is in the Southern Conference and Cal-Poly is in another league.

Yeah sorry. I meant ORV. Auto text replaced it with OVC somehow.

And neither Alabama St nor Jackson St get that type of recognition because neither have done anything to support their ranking.

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:29 am

danefan wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Why shouldn't they get recognition and by the way none of the teams you mentioned are in the OVC.Brown is in the IVY League,Furman is in the Southern Conference and Cal-Poly is in another league.
Yeah sorry. I meant ORV. Auto text replaced it with OVC somehow.

And neither Alabama St nor Jackson St get that type of recognition because neither have done anything to support their ranking.

In defense of Alabama St they are among the nation's leaders when it comes to turnover margin that is why they are amonf the best in 1-aa.Also when it comes to scoring defense both Jackson St and Alabama St are 4th and 5th nationally also in scoring offense Jackson St is in 15th in the country.Kejuan Riley of Alabama St is among the nation's leaders in interceptions and he plays Safety he's also been mentioned as a finalist for the Buchannon Award

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