Dirtiest FCS Rivalries?

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dal4018 wrote:
tampajag wrote:Southern/Jackson St. When the visiting coach makes statements about the safety of his players/fans, that speaks to the dirtiness of a rivalry. There's bad blood on the field and in the stands.
:o :o :o Didn't know it was that intense between these two schools when do they play?
They played already. JSU won by 3. Only the third time they played in Baton Rouge since 2000.
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tampajag wrote:
dal4018 wrote: :o :o :o Didn't know it was that intense between these two schools when do they play?
They played already. JSU won by 3. Only the third time they played in Baton Rouge since 2000.
Okay thanks again sounded like a close game.Hey you think that Jackson St QB Therriault has a shot at being drafted next April?He plays in a pass happy offense so that should be his ace in the hole
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dal4018 wrote:
tampajag wrote: that rivalry is far from dirty. We don't like each other but other than one incident in 2000 the games are pretty clean.
Okay thanks everybody keeps their tempers in check what happened that year in 2k?
a friend of mine (who played for Gram) started a fight with SU's best receiver.
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Seems like Brown and Penn always do stuff after the whistle. Dartmouth plays hard but clean.
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dal4018 wrote:
tampajag wrote: They played already. JSU won by 3. Only the third time they played in Baton Rouge since 2000.
Okay thanks again sounded like a close game.Hey you think that Jackson St QB Therriault has a shot at being drafted next April?He plays in a pass happy offense so that should be his ace in the hole
He throws a nice ball. Has good size. Needs to make better decisions with the ball.
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GannonFan wrote:Hey look, another punch thrown by a non-JMU player again results in a suspension. Michigan St's William Gholston threw a punch in the game against Michigan and he's been suspended by the conference for the following game.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -wolverine

Good quote from the kid too:
"I deeply regret momentarily losing my composure," Gholston said in his statement. " ... Coach [Mark] Dantonio regularly reminds us that actions have consequences, and I will be better prepared to handle these circumstances in the future. I look forward to my reinstatement."
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Wow - listened to Rivals Radio on the way in this morning & they were talking about this before the suspension. Considering MSU is in the most crucial 3-game stretch of their schedule (Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska), that says a lot about character. Notice there is not a "J", "M" or "U" in character.... or a DJ
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Darell1976 wrote:

Not a FCS rival but one of the dirtest in one of our hockey rivals was with Wisconsin. Where you have the police breaking up the fight.
That is some crazy stuff. Looked at other Fights from UND, they seem to have a history of fighting.
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CAA Flagship wrote:I will be interested to see if there is any spillover from last year's ODU/W&M game where there were a few skirmishes and exchange of words from the coaches in their press conferences.
In 32 years this was the only game Laycocke ever complained about the dirty play in his post game interview. The ODU players flipping the bird to the W&M fans when leaving for half time was telling. ODU seemed to start to hit when the whistle blew.

It appears that Coach Wilder has addressed his teams behavior, but the W&M players remember the cheap shots and it won't take much of that type of behavior again from ODU to make the situation deteriorate. I feel W&M will have a hard time not retaliating this year after not doing so last year.
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bluehenbillk wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Hey look, another punch thrown by a non-JMU player again results in a suspension. Michigan St's William Gholston threw a punch in the game against Michigan and he's been suspended by the conference for the following game.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -wolverine

Good quote from the kid too:

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Wow - listened to Rivals Radio on the way in this morning & they were talking about this before the suspension. Considering MSU is in the most crucial 3-game stretch of their schedule (Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska), that says a lot about character. Notice there is not a "J", "M" or "U" in character.... or a DJ
Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from the blue chicks. Still whining, because your QB got hurt last year off a good clean tackle. Then your coach started to whine about it, pretty lame to me.

BTW, on the replay I saw, DJ swinging, but who or what did he it? Air? You are whining about something that isn't even there. If you can't take the heat, then maybe you shouldn't watch football. Granted, there are some things you just don't do, like the Michigan State player twisting the neck of Robinson of Michigan.
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lakesbison wrote:UNI/NDSU UNI players are the biggest cheap shots ever. Bunch of thugs who talk.sh.t and.grab thier crotches and make.gestures.....and their coach allows it. 2 yeats ago they ran pur star.RB into the wall. Thugs period.

And the fans are getting nasty as well.
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NDSU is the only school that seems to have a problem with UNI. The fans and players of every other school in the conference has said that UNI is one of the most respectable programs in the conference.....


UNI isn't the team who has had players suspended for their actions on the field, like UNDS did.
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clenz wrote:
lakesbison wrote:UNI/NDSU UNI players are the biggest cheap shots ever. Bunch of thugs who talk.sh.t and.grab thier crotches and make.gestures.....and their coach allows it. 2 yeats ago they ran pur star.RB into the wall. Thugs period.

And the fans are getting nasty as well.
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NDSU is the only school that seems to have a problem with UNI. The fans and players of every other school in the conference has said that UNI is one of the most respectable programs in the conference.....


UNI isn't the team who has had players suspended for their actions on the field, like UNDS did.
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UNI/NDSU can't be dirty.
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jmufan wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:
Wow - listened to Rivals Radio on the way in this morning & they were talking about this before the suspension. Considering MSU is in the most crucial 3-game stretch of their schedule (Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska), that says a lot about character. Notice there is not a "J", "M" or "U" in character.... or a DJ
Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from the blue chicks. Still whining, because your QB got hurt last year off a good clean tackle. Then your coach started to whine about it, pretty lame to me.

BTW, on the replay I saw, DJ swinging, but who or what did he it? Air? You are whining about something that isn't even there. If you can't take the heat, then maybe you shouldn't watch football. Granted, there are some things you just don't do, like the Michigan State player twisting the neck of Robinson of Michigan.
See, morre of the same rationalization from a JMU fan. Who cares about last year's incident with Devlin - the Maine incident stands on its own. Now we're down to how much contact did he make and did he hurt the guy. Weak. He threw two punches, the video is clear. Anywhere else (UMass/UD game, Michigan St, Boise St) a guy who does that gets rightfully criticized and he misses time. At JMU, we get fans who defend his actions and say what a great guy he is. Mickey is who he is and his team reflects it - you can take the guy out of Marshall, but you apparently can't take the Marshall out of the guy. Rationalize that.
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jmufan wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from the blue chicks. Still whining, because your QB got hurt last year off a good clean tackle. Then your coach started to whine about it, pretty lame to me.

BTW, on the replay I saw, DJ swinging, but who or what did he it? Air? You are whining about something that isn't even there. If you can't take the heat, then maybe you shouldn't watch football. Granted, there are some things you just don't do, like the Michigan State player twisting the neck of Robinson of Michigan.
See, morre of the same rationalization from a JMU fan. Who cares about last year's incident with Devlin - the Maine incident stands on its own. Now we're down to how much contact did he make and did he hurt the guy. Weak. He threw two punches, the video is clear. Anywhere else (UMass/UD game, Michigan St, Boise St) a guy who does that gets rightfully criticized and he misses time. At JMU, we get fans who defend his actions and say what a great guy he is. Mickey is who he is and his team reflects it - you can take the guy out of Marshall, but you apparently can't take the Marshall out of the guy. Rationalize that.
If the "punch" was such a big deal, you would think the refs would have done something about it. Not only that, the conference would have said something about it, or even Maine. Again, you are getting upset over nothing. How many of your players in Delaware, and others schools for that matter, push and shove, the opposition when the play is over? Yeah, they all do it. Oh and some of them, throw punches as well. But yet, none of them are thrown out of a game or penalized. So we might as well call it flag football.
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Clenz......zzzzzzziiiipppp gotcha ill throw you back.

At least you didnt talk faggot hockey on a football board like dipshit darrel,this dude needs to fall off the face of the earth
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If the "punch" was such a big deal, you would think the refs would have done something about it. Not only that, the conference would have said something about it, or even Maine. Again, you are getting upset over nothing. How many of your players in Delaware, and others schools for that matter, push and shove, the opposition when the play is over? Yeah, they all do it. Oh and some of them, throw punches as well. But yet, none of them are thrown out of a game or penalized. So we might as well call it flag football.
What did you want the refs to do? The game was over, you don't throw a flag after the game is over. Did the guy from Oregon get flagged for hitting the Boise player? No. The CAA? They're worthless, they've NEVER suspended a football player for any action. Mickey's Monkeys & the Dirty Dukes. Hey, it's just the principle of the thing - it wouldn't have changed any outcomes - JMU didn't need half their starters to beat VU.
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lakesbison wrote:Clenz......zzzzzzziiiipppp gotcha ill throw you back.

At least you didnt talk faggot hockey on a football board like dipshit darrel,this dude needs to fall off the face of the earth
I see you are off your meds again. Seriously dude seek help before you post a bunch of gay porn on this board like your roommate JBB. :lol:
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Dirtest rivalry? How about the one where the priest, the FB team chaplin, tries to run over fans from the visiting team with his car after a close loss? :thumbdown:

Gannonfan, UMass was plenty dirty prior to Whipple. It was part of their FB culture. Talk to some former players.
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henfan wrote:Dirtest rivalry? How about the one where the priest, the FB team chaplin, tries to run over fans from the visiting team with his car after a close loss? :thumbdown:

Gannonfan, UMass was plenty dirty prior to Whipple. It was part of their FB culture. Talk to some former players.
Very true, it's hard to compete with drunken priests from Villanova.
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bluehenbillk wrote:
jmufan wrote:
If the "punch" was such a big deal, you would think the refs would have done something about it. Not only that, the conference would have said something about it, or even Maine. Again, you are getting upset over nothing. How many of your players in Delaware, and others schools for that matter, push and shove, the opposition when the play is over? Yeah, they all do it. Oh and some of them, throw punches as well. But yet, none of them are thrown out of a game or penalized. So we might as well call it flag football.
What did you want the refs to do? The game was over, you don't throw a flag after the game is over. Did the guy from Oregon get flagged for hitting the Boise player? No. The CAA? They're worthless, they've NEVER suspended a football player for any action. Mickey's Monkeys & the Dirty Dukes. Hey, it's just the principle of the thing - it wouldn't have changed any outcomes - JMU didn't need half their starters to beat VU.
Obviously you are looking at the situation through your blue glasses and I am looking it through my purple glasses. With that said, I am trying to be as objective as I can. I really don't see what the big deal is, but blue hen fans seem to want to make a big deal out of it. I don't see Maine fans (as of yet) making a big deal out of it. For a group of fans to call the CAA worthless, your teams sure are benefiting from its successes. And your comments of "Mickey's Monkeys" is quite racist. Maybe you don't mean it that way (and I do think you don't mean it the way it came out, and you are not the only one who made that comment), but when you say that, it sounds like you are saying that Mickey has a bunch of black people that run around rampant, that have no control and all they do is swing from a tree recklessly.

Again, no one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes at the heat of the moment. The fighting at the end of the game at Southern and Arizona, deserve punishment. But a "punch" that hardly landed is minor, now if he would had kept on, then yeah, kick him out of the next game. But he didn't. Refs broke it up, the CAA didn't feel it was a big deal, and Maine didn't think it was a big deal, so that is that.
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There are a lot of cheap shots in the Elon vs App games, but as Steve Spurrier once said "It ain't a rivalry if the same team wins every year". :lol:

App vs GSU (the real one) can certainly get testy at times and if we had a continuing seris with JMU I'm sure there would be some good hate produced. :rock:
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jmufan wrote:
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What did you want the refs to do? The game was over, you don't throw a flag after the game is over. Did the guy from Oregon get flagged for hitting the Boise player? No. The CAA? They're worthless, they've NEVER suspended a football player for any action. Mickey's Monkeys & the Dirty Dukes. Hey, it's just the principle of the thing - it wouldn't have changed any outcomes - JMU didn't need half their starters to beat VU.
Obviously you are looking at the situation through your blue glasses and I am looking it through my purple glasses. With that said, I am trying to be as objective as I can. I really don't see what the big deal is, but blue hen fans seem to want to make a big deal out of it. I don't see Maine fans (as of yet) making a big deal out of it. For a group of fans to call the CAA worthless, your teams sure are benefiting from its successes. And your comments of "Mickey's Monkeys" is quite racist. Maybe you don't mean it that way (and I do think you don't mean it the way it came out, and you are not the only one who made that comment), but when you say that, it sounds like you are saying that Mickey has a bunch of black people that run around rampant, that have no control and all they do is swing from a tree recklessly.

Again, no one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes at the heat of the moment. The fighting at the end of the game at Southern and Arizona, deserve punishment. But a "punch" that hardly landed is minor, now if he would had kept on, then yeah, kick him out of the next game. But he didn't. Refs broke it up, the CAA didn't feel it was a big deal, and Maine didn't think it was a big deal, so that is that.

Check out your own boards - you're embarassing yourself just as the other JMU fans did last week. There is a former JMU player over there who calls those guys out that knows Bryant personally & he sheds some light on the kid. Read up & get back to us.
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It's really hard to get a good perspective on this. There is the 'fan' angle, the 'player' angle and the 'team' or rivalry angle.

Unless you know what is r e a l l y happening on the field, who knows? Players won't talk about most stuff in the media for fear of really stirring things up.

I'm not defending throwing a punch or taking a cheap shot, but I imagine most folks understand the 'retaliation' angle. I'm just happy we don't see a lot more of it. There are guys who will never miss an opportunity to cleat someone, stomp a hand, poke an eye, go for a knee, blind side, snatch, grab, hold or cheap shot every chance they get, seldom getting a flag.

I can understand 'sending a message' to a player like that as long as it doesn't hurt the team...

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Did anyone catch the UCLA- Arizona donnybrook last night? Some student runs on the field dressed as a ref which distracts everyone & then all hell breaks loose - both benches clear. They only kicked out 2 guys, but ESPN kept saying the Pac-12 reviews all these tapes & will most likely suspend quite a few players from both sides. Happened right at the end of the first half. If it wasn't for occassional shots of Jenn Brown on the sideline I wouldn't have been watching.
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Bluehen, I can care less what other JMU fans think, they are individuals with their own opinions, just as I. People are so quick to throw someone under the bus, claiming that they know more about what is going on than those who were actually involved. What is embarrassing are fans like yourself making a big deal from nothing. If it were such a big deal, he would have been suspended from the league and team for a game or two, but he wasn't.
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