Its not about an irrelevant BOWL (which still gets more viewers on ESPN than fcs playoff gams)
its about FBS and you university on the ESPN/ABC scoreboard ticker each week, with your university showing up on standings and schedules in every major paper/website throughout the country.
lakesbison wrote:Its not about an irrelevant BOWL (which still gets more viewers on ESPN than fcs playoff gams)
its about FBS and you university on the ESPN/ABC scoreboard ticker each week, with your university showing up on standings and schedules in every major paper/website throughout the country.
They have FCS teams on the ticker every week. As for major newspaper, yeah I wanna get the NY Times so I can see a little tiny score of the Idaho or Western Kentucky game. Unless you care about Bowl games there is no reason to move up to the FBS. Not many teams can pull off a Boise State (and they still haven't played for a National Championship).
lakesbison wrote:Its not about an irrelevant BOWL (which still gets more viewers on ESPN than fcs playoff gams)
its about FBS and you university on the ESPN/ABC scoreboard ticker each week, with your university showing up on standings and schedules in every major paper/website throughout the country.
No offense lakes, but I would rather have the chance at winning national championships year in and year out over a chance to play in some bowl that no one cares about. I understand the audience is a little bigger for those small bowls than our FCS playoffs, but our playoffs MEAN something... I believe that in the FCS, we have something to play for every week & I in NO WAY am wanting to move up until they change the FBS system. And I know many, many Bison/FCS fans that feel the exact same way.
I recognize your spirit and where you think NDSU could/should go, but it is NOT in the best intrest of the program right now. We haven't even had the chance to become accustomed to this level yet. Give it time. In 10-15 years and then we can see where our schools budget is. Along with the state of our programs.
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If Chapman was still the president, he would definitely be looking into it. I have no doubt about that. But now with Dean Bresciani as president, I don't know if he is as willing to move up/do something to this magnitude.
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FargoBison wrote:We have nowhere to go lakes. The WAC is trash and the MAC is too far east.
There is always the NFC North?
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lakesbison wrote:Its not about an irrelevant BOWL (which still gets more viewers on ESPN than fcs playoff gams)
its about FBS and you university on the ESPN/ABC scoreboard ticker each week, with your university showing up on standings and schedules in every major paper/website throughout the country.
No offense lakes, but I would rather have the chance at winning national championships year in and year out over a chance to play in some bowl that no one cares about. I understand the audience is a little bigger for those small bowls than our FCS playoffs, but our playoffs MEAN something... I believe that in the FCS, we have something to play for every week & I in NO WAY am wanting to move up until they change the FBS system. And I know many, many Bison/FCS fans that feel the exact same way.
I recognize your spirit and where you think NDSU could/should go, but it is NOT in the best intrest of the program right now. We haven't even had the chance to become accustomed to this level yet. Give it time. In 10-15 years and then we can see where our schools budget is. Along with the state of our programs.
You're both wrong. The UM/ASU playoff game drew a larger audience than roughly HALF of the bowl games in '09. It IS possible, if we provide compelling story lines, to draw a reasonable audience.
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No offense lakes, but I would rather have the chance at winning national championships year in and year out over a chance to play in some bowl that no one cares about. I understand the audience is a little bigger for those small bowls than our FCS playoffs, but our playoffs MEAN something... I believe that in the FCS, we have something to play for every week & I in NO WAY am wanting to move up until they change the FBS system. And I know many, many Bison/FCS fans that feel the exact same way.
I recognize your spirit and where you think NDSU could/should go, but it is NOT in the best intrest of the program right now. We haven't even had the chance to become accustomed to this level yet. Give it time. In 10-15 years and then we can see where our schools budget is. Along with the state of our programs.
You're both wrong. The UM/ASU playoff game drew a larger audience than roughly HALF of the bowl games in '09. It IS possible, if we provide compelling story lines, to draw a reasonable audience.
UM/ASU have the two of the largest FCS followings. So yes for that game it may be true, but in MOST cases I would guess the average fan that has no association to FCS would rather watch some random bowl game than a playoff game between two teams that they probably have never heard of.
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lakesbison wrote:yes AZ grizz fan, that 1 game in 30+ years of FCS.
NDSU could compete in the Wac, top 3 each year. Maybe even Top5 in Mountain West.
Being in an FBS conference is totally different than just gearing up for 1 FBS game every year. We already found out the difference when we first joined the MVFC. We don't even know if we can compete for top 3 in our own conference every year yet... Yes I expect that we will, but you can't expect the same if you move up.
I admire your vision, but sometimes you need to see the whole situation. It makes for good discussion though
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MWC-CUSA merged so they wouldn't have to invite FCS members to their conferences. Why would they do it now? These two conferences coming together was bad news for the likes of ODU, App State, Georgia Southern, James Madison. Personally, the CUSA was the only conference I might have possibly considered and want to see ODU make the jump to FBS.
Many of you are hammering on your presidents and AD's for not "looking into" moving up. Why would any school want to look at it right now? No one, not even the Big East (a BCS conference) knows what is going to happen. If a school was smart they would let the dominoes fall and then consider what the best option would be for their school.
It strikes me as funny that 90% of the Division 1 schools in the west now belong to basically TWO conferences. The Pac-12 and the Big Sky....
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ODUalum11 wrote:MWC-CUSA merged so they wouldn't have to invite FCS members to their conferences. Why would they do it now? These two conferences coming together was bad news for the likes of ODU, App State, Georgia Southern, James Madison. Personally, the CUSA was the only conference I might have possibly considered and want to see ODU make the jump to FBS.
Still have the Sun Belt
Sun Belt and the WAC would be a down grade for upper echelon FCS teams in my opinion... MWC & C-USA were the optimal places to go like you just said. Now this put the end to that idea for the most part.
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