Big Sky Coaches On Hot Seat

Northcoast · Post by **Northcoast** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:09 pm

Well give Kramer a few years, the tables will turn.

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:10 pm

Northcoast wrote:Well give Kramer a few years, the tables will turn.

Most other Big Sky fans believe ISU will be good real soon.

JacksFan2011 · Post by **JacksFan2011** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:37 pm

As an NAU fan I am outraged at the fact that Coach Souers got an extension AND a raise! He may not be on the hot seat right now, but I sure wish he were. Ever since I started going to school here it has been 6-5, 5-6, 6-5. This year is starting to look a lot like 3-8, but who knows how the rest of the year will turn out. The players don't like playing for him and the avid student fans want him out of Flagstaff.

JacksFan2011 · Post by **JacksFan2011** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:41 pm

BearIt wrote:
dbackjon wrote:I wish Souer was on the hot seat
With NAU's having OK seasons (not total stinkers) and an APR rating that is through the roof. I don't think Souer's at risk.

Easy for a Griz fan to say! haha we may not be stinking up the dome, but 5-6/6-5 for 3 straight seasons freakin sucks man! I haven't missed a home game and I've traveled on the road to 3 Big Sky games and I am tired of the losing. The talent is there, but there is never any execution. That has to fall on Souers. He always says after the game that we played real "tough" and with "a lot of courage". I'm sick of that! Courage and toughness doesn't get you wins and I want to win!

Northcoast · Post by **Northcoast** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:09 pm

Reminds me of Mick Durham, bball coach at MSU, he was happily mediocre and it took forever for us to get rid of him. Now guess what we have? More mediocrity!

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:29 pm

JacksFan2011 wrote:
BearIt wrote:
With NAU's having OK seasons (not total stinkers) and an APR rating that is through the roof. I don't think Souer's at risk.
Easy for a Griz fan to say! haha we may not be stinking up the dome, but 5-6/6-5 for 3 straight seasons freakin sucks man!

It's actually 5 straight seasons.

JacksFan2011 · Post by **JacksFan2011** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:34 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
JacksFan2011 wrote:
Easy for a Griz fan to say! haha we may not be stinking up the dome, but 5-6/6-5 for 3 straight seasons freakin sucks man!
It's actually 5 straight seasons.

haha alright even worse. I have been a student since '08 and so I can't really extend my NAU knowledge past then, so it is good to know that Griz fans are reminding me of our incredible stretch of mediocrity.....

lumberjerk · Post by **lumberjerk** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:27 pm

Souers has never beaten the griz. This dude has had one good season since he has been here. He should have been gone after last seasons collapse. Way too many good players to finish like that.

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:37 pm

lumberjerk wrote:Souers has never beaten the griz. This dude has had one good season since he has been here. He should have been gone after last seasons collapse. Way too many good players to finish like that.

He's had 3 playoff seasons, though one had 4 wins retroactively forfeited due to an ineligible player.

And he did get his team to beat a #1 seed by 32 points on the road. Granted, that was 8 years ago, but still…

mtjack · Post by **mtjack** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:49 pm

The football team's APR is up, his players graduate and (generally) stay out of trouble and he's signed for a few more years. Souers isn't going anywhere soon. I can't see NAU buying his contract out and paying additional money for a new coach. That just doesn't seem to be how the athletic department operates at NAU since I've been a Lumberjacks fan.

lumberjerk · Post by **lumberjerk** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:11 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
lumberjerk wrote:Souers has never beaten the griz. This dude has had one good season since he has been here. He should have been gone after last seasons collapse. Way too many good players to finish like that.
He's had 3 playoff seasons, though one had 4 wins retroactively forfeited due to an ineligible player.

And he did get his team to beat a #1 seed by 32 points on the road. Granted, that was 8 years ago, but still…

I'm only aware of one playoff season, but maybe i'm wrong. He got a pay raise and a 2 year contract extension after blowing it last season. And i'm sure it is because we dont want to spend the money to get a new coach, but everybody still wonders why we get a high school crowd when we are hosting the defending national champs.

mtjack · Post by **mtjack** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:35 pm

lumberjerk wrote: I'm only aware of one playoff season, but maybe i'm wrong. He got a pay raise and a 2 year contract extension after blowing it last season. And i'm sure it is because we dont want to spend the money to get a new coach, but everybody still wonders why we get a high school crowd when we are hosting the defending national champs.

I'm pretty impressed with the recent student section/support/JackPack. I've never been impressed with the community's support for football. A better crowd than usual will be present due to homecoming. I'm bringing five family members or in-laws and three or four old college friends who never attended football when they were NAU students ...which is the root of the fan support problem up there...people I went to school with didn't actively hate NAU or sports in general but it just was not a priority.

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm

lumberjerk wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
He's had 3 playoff seasons, though one had 4 wins retroactively forfeited due to an ineligible player.

And he did get his team to beat a #1 seed by 32 points on the road. Granted, that was 8 years ago, but still…
I'm only aware of one playoff season, but maybe i'm wrong. He got a pay raise and a 2 year contract extension after blowing it last season. And i'm sure it is because we dont want to spend the money to get a new coach, but everybody still wonders why we get a high school crowd when we are hosting the defending national champs.

1999, 2001, 2003. '99 was the one with the forfeits.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia ... /index.php

NAU_Alum10 · Post by **NAU_Alum10** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:01 am

Souers has got to go!

NAU_Alum10 · Post by **NAU_Alum10** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:01 am

mtjack wrote:The football team's APR is up, his players graduate and (generally) stay out of trouble and he's signed for a few more years. Souers isn't going anywhere soon. I can't see NAU buying his contract out and paying additional money for a new coach. That just doesn't seem to be how the athletic department operates at NAU since I've been a Lumberjacks fan.

I really appreciate your point of view, as academics and player conduct off the field are extremely important but if that’s all he’s good at then he needs to take a position in the ath dept as someone in charge of academics/player conduct and leave the x’s and o’s to someone else.

He is a football coach and a losing one at that (the records speak for themselves)…Portland St. got some new blood in and they greatly improved….to be completely honest we need to get rid of the AD too. We need entirely new blood in the ath dept. we need people in there that get upset when we lose. The “we played with heart and im proud of a hard fought loss” BS nonsense is getting old… the heck with that im demanding better and NAU deserves it. Its time we pound our fists on the table and demand better because we deserve it...Souers has got to go! WE NEED A CULTURE CHANGE!!!

lumberjerk · Post by **lumberjerk** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:30 am

moral victories, moral victories, and moral victories.

kemajic · Post by **kemajic** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:59 am

JacksFan2011 wrote:As an NAU fan I am outraged at the fact that Coach Souers got an extension AND a raise! He may not be on the hot seat right now, but I sure wish he were. Ever since I started going to school here it has been 6-5, 5-6, 6-5. This year is starting to look a lot like 3-8, but who knows how the rest of the year will turn out. The players don't like playing for him and the avid student fans want him out of Flagstaff.

Gerome is 74-79 in his 14th year at NAU. He was a popular DC at Montana, but he has yet to beat his former employer in 13 tries. 14th Saturday at home. The patience there with that output is surprising.

lumberjerk · Post by **lumberjerk** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:27 am

Ya this would not pass at most schools. Last season would have been the perfect time for a new coach. We made major renovations on the dome and we should have made renovations to the coaching staff. Souers has worn out his welcome

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:31 am

JacksFan2011 wrote:
BearIt wrote:
With NAU's having OK seasons (not total stinkers) and an APR rating that is through the roof. I don't think Souer's at risk.
Easy for a Griz fan to say! haha we may not be stinking up the dome, but 5-6/6-5 for 3 straight seasons freakin sucks man! I haven't missed a home game and I've traveled on the road to 3 Big Sky games and I am tired of the losing. The talent is there, but there is never any execution. That has to fall on Souers. He always says after the game that we played real "tough" and with "a lot of courage". I'm sick of that! Courage and toughness doesn't get you wins and I want to win!

Exactly.

With the access to Phoenix and SoCal recruiting, NAU should be in the BSC title hunt every year, and in the playoffs most.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:00 pm

lumberjerk wrote:moral victories, moral victories, and moral victories.

on the sig.

lumberjerk · Post by **lumberjerk** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:00 pm

dbackjon wrote:
JacksFan2011 wrote:
Easy for a Griz fan to say! haha we may not be stinking up the dome, but 5-6/6-5 for 3 straight seasons freakin sucks man! I haven't missed a home game and I've traveled on the road to 3 Big Sky games and I am tired of the losing. The talent is there, but there is never any execution. That has to fall on Souers. He always says after the game that we played real "tough" and with "a lot of courage". I'm sick of that! Courage and toughness doesn't get you wins and I want to win!

Exactly.

With the access to Phoenix and SoCal recruiting, NAU should be in the BSC title hunt every year, and in the playoffs most.

The talent is absolutely there. I am sick of hearing "well our guys never gave up, they played tough." Last year is a prime example of Jerome. We lose two incredibly close games to EWU and UM and pummel MSU, then going into an important homecoming against Sac. State we get blown out and then blow the rest of the season. There was too much talent on both sides of the ball for that to happen.

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