JMU's DJ Bryant - Class Guy Award, haha

[danefan]

http://boards.caazone.com/showthread.ph ... yant/page2

Check out this repsonse (post #20 bottom of page) on the JMU board from a former Dukes player over the Bryant issue. I couldn't have said it better.

The post is spot on.

Talking shit is part of the game. It never justifies a punch thrown. Ever.

[YoUDeeMan]

Excellent post Bill, but JMU posters will turn on their own and call their former player a "whiny bitch".

The truth from a former JMU player:

"As for DJ, whoever is making excuses (guys were talking smack, blah blah, looks like he got bumped, blah blah, you need to make a "fist to throw a punch") is a poor excuse of a JMU fan. You guys don't think DJ and the rest of out team for that matter were talking smack all game, cause I didn't see any Maine player throw a punch (much less two). The fact that two Maine players came over to consult as DJ was sitting there distraught after a lose and throwing punches looks very good for those Canadians. I have known him since we played together in 07 and 08 and even teammates have said DJ is a immature kid. He has a decent shot at playing at the next level skill wise but is way too stupid to get there. Not to mention I clearly saw DJ throw a punch a few weeks ago at Liberty.

All that said I don't even care that much that DJ is a thug, I care that people are defending his actions with such piss poor excuses. If I had a dollar for every time someone talked smack to me and I didn't throw a punch.... you know the rest."

[rufus]

Man, Delaware fans feel strongly about this incident. You would think Bryant armed himself with a shotgun and invaded the home of a teammate to steal his steroids...

[DSUrocks07]

[clenz]

There were no punches thrown at this bitch.

If he can't handle some trash talk...fuck him. Someone take his knees out if he is going to be a bitch like this every game.

[GannonFan]

Man, Delaware fans feel strongly about this incident. You would think Bryant armed himself with a shotgun and invaded the home of a teammate to steal his steroids...

Yeah, big difference there is that UD fans were unanimous in their denouncement and condemnation of people like that. We couldn't have cut bait to a thug like that fast enough. JMU fans would've found some way to rationalize his actions and point out that he's just misunderstood or had a tough life or maybe it was just a prank, so long as he can keep playing next week.

[Dukie95]

I've made my peace in this thread, where I said I don't condone his actions..should not be throwing punches. I merely object to the early tone of this thread that implied he was indiscriminately throwing punches without being provoked.

Maine player clearly says something to him so he swings (AGAIN, shouldn't have done it). But, another Maine player swings at Bryant in response, so Bryant swings back.

AGAIN, should not be throwing punches, but some posters here are able to ignore that it takes two (or three, in this case) to tango. Where's the outrage over the Maine punch?

Punches are punches and are all unacceptable, but misrepresenting the motivation behind them is unfair. These are not the same events:

1. Dude loses so he goes berserk on everyone within arms reach (as implied in the first post here)
2. Player says something objectionable so he punches, so a third player punches in defense, which is also returned.

[GannonFan]

I've made my peace in this thread, where I said I don't condone his actions..should not be throwing punches. I merely object to the early tone of this thread that implied he was indiscriminately throwing punches without being provoked.

Maine player clearly says something to him so he swings (AGAIN, shouldn't have done it). But, another Maine player swings at Bryant in response, so Bryant swings back.

AGAIN, should not be throwing punches, but some posters here are able to ignore that it takes two (or three, in this case) to tango. Where's the outrage over the Maine punch?

Punches are punches and are all unacceptable, but misrepresenting the motivation behind them is unfair. These are not the same events:

1. Dude loses so he goes berserk on everyone within arms reach (as implied in the first post here)
2. Player says something objectionable so he punches, so a third player punches in defense, which is also returned.

Again, where's this phantom punch that a Maine guy throws? You're the second JMU poster who claims Maine was throwing punches to. Where in the video do you see that? I see bumping and trash talking, things we all agree should never lead to an actual punch being thrown, but I don't see Maine returning haymakers.

[clenz]

I've watched it 10 times...yet to see a Maine guy throw a punch. Tell me the exact second in the video and I'll rewatch it again.

[Dukie95]

Guy comes from the bottom, upon second review, looks like maybe it wasn't a punch, that he just ran into him, but he does hit his helmet.

[GannonFan]

Guy comes from the bottom, upon second review, looks like maybe it wasn't a punch, that he just ran into him, but he does hit his helmet.

I agree, Maine guy comes up and is chippy and gives him a head butt with his helmet, but again, that happens a lot and never justifies a punch. I'm sure trash was talked all game by both sides - this is football - but nothing on that video justifies one punch, let alone two punches.

[clenz]

So, I took the time to screen cap between 2:57 and 3:01. Not one punch was thrown by a Maine player....the only time a Maine player comes in contact with Bryant is after the first punch a Maine player does get in his face, but does NOT throw a punch...that Maine player is prompted punched in the face by Bryant. He should be suspended multiple games. Maybe I'll send these screen caps the the CAA and Mickey.


Click to enlarge them.

2:57 - just after the dude landed. Bryant is already looking to go after someone but no Maine player is touching him.



2:58 - Bryant starts his punch. May have been some trash talking, but no contact between him and a Maine player has been made....



Later in the 2:58 second - Bryant landing his hay-maker.



2:59 - still no contact initiated by a Maine player



2:59 - first contact made by a Maine player and this is only because Bryant took a cheap shot at his teammate...



3:00 - no punch thrown by the Maine player, yet here goes Bryant loading up for another hay-maker



3:00 - And Bryant lands another one....






What a classy classy fella.

[clenz]

Guy comes from the bottom, upon second review, looks like maybe it wasn't a punch, that he just ran into him, but he does hit his helmet.

Yep...that was AFTER BRYANT HAS JUST FUCKING DECKED HIS TEAMMATE. THERE WAS NO PUNCH THROWN YET BRYANT PUNCHES THAT GUY TOO.


Holy shit....I've never wanted someone to break an arm, but this Bryant guy deserves it.

[mcveyrl]

So, I took the time to screen cap between 2:57 and 3:01. Not one punch was thrown by a Maine player....the only time a Maine player comes in contact with Bryant is after the first punch a Maine player does get in his face, but does NOT throw a punch...that Maine player is prompted punched in the face by Bryant. He should be suspended multiple games. Maybe I'll send these screen caps the the CAA and Mickey.


Click to enlarge them.

2:57 - just after the dude landed. Bryant is already looking to go after someone but no Maine player is touching him.



2:58 - Bryant starts his punch. May have been some trash talking, but no contact between him and a Maine player has been made....



Later in the 2:58 second - Bryant landing his hay-maker.



2:59 - still no contact initiated by a Maine player



2:59 - first contact made by a Maine player and this is only because Bryant took a cheap shot at his teammate...



3:00 - no punch thrown by the Maine player, yet here goes Bryant loading up for another hay-maker



3:00 - And Bryant lands another one....






What a classy classy fella.

Please send these to the CAA. I'm sure they're interested in your opinion. Make sure to mention you played the game.

[henfan]

Yeah, big difference there is that UD fans were unanimous in their denouncement and condemnation of people like that.

More to the point, the coaching staff & university didn't put up with that nonsense. The kind of boorish behavior demonstrated by JMU players over the last several years at a minimum seems to be tolerated by Matthews and, perhaps, maybe even encouraged in some cases.

An incident sticks with me from a few years ago that I won't soon forget about how Matthews runs that program down there. After a close UD loss, several of Mickey's Monkeys made their way to the grandstand on the opposite side of the field to thump their chests and talk trash to the UD fans who were exiting the stadium. Just keeping it classy in the 'Burg.

[mcveyrl]

Yeah, big difference there is that UD fans were unanimous in their denouncement and condemnation of people like that.

More to the point, the coaching staff & university didn't put up with that nonsense. The kind of boorish behavior demonstrated by JMU players over the last several years at a minimum seems to be tolerated by Matthews and, perhaps, maybe even encouraged in some cases.

An incident sticks with me from a few years ago that I won't soon forget about how Matthews runs that program down there. After a close UD loss, several of Mickey's Monkeys made their way to the grandstand on the opposite side of the field to thump their chests and talk trash to the UD fans who were exiting the stadium. Just keeping it classy in the 'Burg.

Not that I condone that, but some of Maine's players did the same thing Saturday.

And I haven't said much on this thread on purpose, but Mickey's Monkeys is offensive and insensitive to a whole group of people that have nothing to do with JMU. There are other ways to get your point across.

[JmuSkinsfan]

Wishing injury on someone is pretty classless, especially for a guy like DJ who by all accounts is a great guy and a great representative of the university, this incident aside. I've never seen a more passionate player come through JMU ... he literally lives and dies with the team's success (which I know by following him on twitter). He is well spoken, and his presence at the CAA Media day in August represented JMU well. I can't defend him for throwing punches, but I can understand his being so upset at the end. He just needs to learn to compose himself in those situations, but those come with growing up ... I'm sure he's learned his lesson.

Again, calling him "Mickey's Monkey" is downright offensive and hoping he breaks an arm or someone goes for his legs is just plain dispicable. The players get caught up in the moment ... why else would Maine players go up to DJ after the game (as well as the ref) to pat him on the back. They know he is a competitor that got caught up in the moment. Anyway, my piece is done, and I've lost a lot of respect (of the little I had) for a lot of you Blue Hens posters as well as clenz. No matter how "grevious" an incident, I'd never call for a UNI player to get targeted for injury. Pretty classless.

By the way, there is a HUGE difference between throwing a "punch" at a guy wearing a helmet in the heat of the moment seconds after your team lost in an OT thriller as you're caught in the middle of their celebration, and going up to a guy after the game (helmetless) and landing a punch.

[State Line Liquors]

Obviously the CAA doesn't plan on suspending him, otherwise we would've heard something by now. The official on the field apparently either condoned it, or didn't see fit to make further issue of it, right or wrong (I'm leaning towards wrong, but whatever). Let's add this topic to the garbage heap of items we've collected from JMU through the years....and MOVE ON to something else. This weekend has new games, and new opportunities for JMU football to further tarnish their public reputation.

[Skjellyfetti]

If Jeremy Kimbrough got suspended by the SoCon for removing his helmet.... throwing punches should be a suspension by the CAA... regardless.

[henfan]

Bryant might be a terrific person off the field but on it, where he has a chance to demonstrate his true character and represent JMU the right way, he continues to fall short. (BTW, I also agree that it's completely classless to target a player for injury... cough, Pat Devlin, cough.)

If you guys keep apologizing for bad behavior rather than demanding that your coaching staff & university do something about it, you can expect similar results. In that case be prepared to have your sensitive feelings hurt when someone calls out your players for acting like thugs and animals. What's happened to JMU?

[93henfan]

If Jeremy Kimbrough got suspended by the SoCon for removing his helmet.... throwing punches should be a suspension by the CAA... regardless.

The CAA office has shown that it doesn't police player actions on the field. If pressed, they'll release a statement to the effect of "if the official on the field didn't see fit to throw a flag, yada, yada..."

Bottom line is, you could send a midget monkey out to kick the other team's QB in the nutsack and if the official missed it, it's pretty much legal, no matter what the film shows.

It also helps to be a Virginia school if the CAA has to make a decision on any matter.

[GannonFan]

If Jeremy Kimbrough got suspended by the SoCon for removing his helmet.... throwing punches should be a suspension by the CAA... regardless.

The CAA office has shown that it doesn't police player actions on the field. If pressed, they'll release a statement to the effect of "if the official on the field didn't see fit to throw a flag, yada, yada..."

Bottom line is, you could send a midget monkey out to kick the other team's QB in the nutsack and if the official missed it, it's pretty much legal, no matter what the film shows.

It also helps to be a Virginia school if the CAA has to make a decision on any matter.

Has the CAA ever suspended a player for something done on the field? I thought when Skinner punched Stokes in the nuts back in the day, that was Mason doing the suspension, not the CAA. And I think a Mason guy was allowed to play in the Bracket Buster that year as well despite doing something that normally would be a suspension. There's not really a track record of the CAA doing any policing of what goes on on the field or court or what have you. It's pretty much up to the individual schools.

[CAA Flagship]

Bottom line is, you could send a midget monkey out to kick the other team's QB in the nutsack and if the official missed it, it's pretty much legal, no matter what the film shows.

Found one.
And this one is a MEXICAN Midget Monkey. Even Better

[bluehenbillk]

The CAA office has shown that it doesn't police player actions on the field. If pressed, they'll release a statement to the effect of "if the official on the field didn't see fit to throw a flag, yada, yada..."

Bottom line is, you could send a midget monkey out to kick the other team's QB in the nutsack and if the official missed it, it's pretty much legal, no matter what the film shows.

It also helps to be a Virginia school if the CAA has to make a decision on any matter.

Has the CAA ever suspended a player for something done on the field? I thought when Skinner punched Stokes in the nuts back in the day, that was Mason doing the suspension, not the CAA. And I think a Mason guy was allowed to play in the Bracket Buster that year as well despite doing something that normally would be a suspension. There's not really a track record of the CAA doing any policing of what goes on on the field or court or what have you. It's pretty much up to the individual schools.

Great point - the CAA league office is worthless. I believe GF is right - I can't find a specific instance where the league has EVER suspended a player in any sport. I just surfed through countless pages of google search & the only incidents that come up are all instances where the school does the suspension. The video tape is pretty clear IMO, guy throws 2 punches, but yet, I'm sure he'll play this weekend. Not that it matters if he plays or not, JMU has 'Nova this week... Someone should contact Yeager and ask him when he'll grow a sack.

[YoUDeeMan]

Please send these to the CAA. I'm sure they're interested in your opinion. Make sure to mention you played the game.

In other words, "Thanks for proving that JMU posters can't be objective and will fabricate anything to come to the defense of our players."