Herman Cain

[kalm]

By the time they set foot in the oval office, yes. Every president must be at this point. Obama has earned his stripes, Romney had them going in.

You certainly are a moving target on this thread.

Or you're a terrible shot.

[BigSkyBears]

He is definitely much more genuine than Romney and Perry. I remember his campaign in the senate primary race in Georgia and he is basically the same person in the primary as he is now. He was using many of the republican talking points of today back when the likes of Perry, Bachmann, and Romney were cheerleading Bush's fiscal recklessness. I would certainly choose him before any of those guys.

The problem is that he's only slightly more qualified to be president than Obama was when he was inaugurated.

Cain has military service and extensive business experience. Obama had neither when he was elected.

The POTUS most important job is foreign policy. Not the economy and domestic issues.

[AZGrizFan]

Cain has military service and extensive business experience. Obama had neither when he was elected.

The POTUS most important job is foreign policy. Not the economy and domestic issues.

Well Barry Sortero was 0-3 then. He's proven THAT beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[native]

It seems like that's how most of the right and the msm has dealt with this so far. Will it hurt them in the general?

I agree with Herman Cain 100% on this issue. It's really easy to blame someone else when you've got troubles. Hell, it's the Democratic mantra to blame OTHERS for your own shortcomings---Obama has made a living blaming millionaires and corporate jet flyers for all this country's ills...It's very refreshing to see a politician who gets it like Cain does. Then again, he's not a politician. Kudos to him.

Fvck it. Why settle? Cain is my candidate. This is the year.

[Ivytalk]

The Wall Street Journal took issue with the national sales tax prong of "9-9-9," analogizing it to the European VAT. The sense of the editorial was that the other two rates would tend to inch up over time in conjunction with the sales tax rate, which is also regressive. But the paper is by no means hostile to Cain's candidacy.

[native]

The Wall Street Journal took issue with the national sales tax prong of "9-9-9," analogizing it to the European VAT. The sense of the editorial was that the other two rates would tend to inch up over time in conjunction with the sales tax rate, which is also regressive. But the paper is by no means hostile to Cain's candidacy.

Yup. The 9-9-9 plan looks terrible ... except by comparison with our current tax code monstrosity.

[Ivytalk]

The Wall Street Journal took issue with the national sales tax prong of "9-9-9," analogizing it to the European VAT. The sense of the editorial was that the other two rates would tend to inch up over time in conjunction with the sales tax rate, which is also regressive. But the paper is by no means hostile to Cain's candidacy.

Yup. The 9-9-9 plan looks terrible ... except by comparison with our current tax code monstrosity.

True dat. They should scrap it and start over!

[free7694]

The Wall Street Journal took issue with the national sales tax prong of "9-9-9," analogizing it to the European VAT. The sense of the editorial was that the other two rates would tend to inch up over time in conjunction with the sales tax rate, which is also regressive. But the paper is by no means hostile to Cain's candidacy.

If the WSJ had managed to do its research (which would have consisted of two clicks of the mouse on Cain's website), they would know that "9-9-9" is the first of two phases in Cain's tax plan. The second phase of the plan removes the corporate and personal income taxes entirely and implements the FairTax, which is not like the European VAT at all.

http://www.hermancain.com/999plan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bluehenbillk]

So what the hell is the "Fair Tax"? I went on his website - no details at all.

Heard this guy's comments on the occupations yesterday - out of touch - unelectable. I'd be active in killing this guys campaign - but it won't be necessary - will never get that far.

[DSUrocks07]

So what the hell is the "Fair Tax"? I went on his website - no details at all.

Heard this guy's comments on the occupations yesterday - out of touch - unelectable. I'd be active in killing this guys campaign - but it won't be necessary - will never get that far.

"Personal accountability" is out of touch?

[Bronco]

I would very much enjoy the debates with Cain

[BlueHen86]

I would very much enjoy the debates with Cain

[death dealer]

Obama's cabinet is full of it.

Truer words were never spoken.

[blueballs]

So what the hell is the "Fair Tax"? I went on his website - no details at all.

http://www.fairtax.org

[OL FU]

So what the hell is the "Fair Tax"? I went on his website - no details at all.

http://www.fairtax.org

I swear blue carries that web address around in his back pocket

[JoltinJoe]

I'm not voting for Cain. He has turned his tax plan upside down to fool us. It is not the 999 plan. It is really the 666 plan. And he's running during the year the Mayan calendar comes to an end. Put it all together.

[DSUrocks07]

I'm not voting for Cain. He has turned his tax plan upside down to fool us. It is not the 999 plan. It is really the 666 plan. And he's running during the year the Mayan calendar comes to an end. Put it all together.

You know...a man named Cain killed Abel in the Bible too...

Oh SHI-

[DSUrocks07]

"Oh yeah, and he's black...not making that mistake twice..." - the American voter

[bluehenbillk]

"Oh yeah, and he's black...not making that mistake twice..." - the American voter

Well I won't speak for the American voter, but, does anyone on here really believe the GOP would nominate a black man?

[89Hen]

"Oh yeah, and he's black...not making that mistake twice..." - the American voter

Well I won't speak for the American voter, but, does anyone on here really believe the GOP would nominate a black man?

No, because they know the Dems won't vote for a black candidate that isn't a Dem.

[AZGrizFan]

Well I won't speak for the American voter, but, does anyone on here really believe the GOP would nominate a black man?

No, because they know the Dems won't vote for a black candidate that isn't a Dem.

It WOULD be interesting, though, to see where someone like Colin Powell's allegiances lie....or JC Watts....you know, good strong conservative black men who inexplicably crossed over to vote for/support Obama based on skin color?

[HI54UNI]

No, because they know the Dems won't vote for a black candidate that isn't a Dem.

It WOULD be interesting, though, to see where someone like Colin Powell's allegiances lie....or JC Watts....you know, good strong conservative black men who inexplicably crossed over to vote for/support Obama based on skin color?

JC might be a conservative but I don't think Powell is.....

[AZGrizFan]

It WOULD be interesting, though, to see where someone like Colin Powell's allegiances lie....or JC Watts....you know, good strong conservative black men who inexplicably crossed over to vote for/support Obama based on skin color?

JC might be a conservative but I don't think Powell is.....

I believe he is a registered Republican.

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell ended speculation regarding his political affiliation, which had been fueled in no small way by the comments of Rush Limbaugh and former Vice President Dick Cheney. Powell’s vote for and public support of the Democratic nominee and now president, Barack Obama, helped add to the confusion.


Powell told “Face the Nation” over the weekend, “Rush will not get his wish, and Mr. Cheney was misinformed. I am still a Republican.” That is a good thing.
Republicans — including very conservative Republicans like Indiana Rep. Mark Souder and especially those Republicans who are standing for reelection — want Powell to stay in the party.


Powell is no social conservative. He supports abortion rights, and he has voiced support for affirmative action. He recently said that most people want more government in their lives, a dubious statement in the eyes of the conservative movement.


But Powell serves a vital role as a proud member of the Republican Party. He serves as a counter­weight to those who would take the party too far to the right, those who seek orthodoxy on a variety of social and fiscal issues and those who see only absolutes in a world of gray.


As someone who watched the Republican Party prosper in the 1990s, only to see it essentially collapse during the 2006 election, I believe balance is essential to the party’s rebirth. I watched from my perch as a leadership staffer as Tom DeLay and Chris Shays battled it out on issue after issue. DeLay sought to take the party to the right; Shays, to the left. DeLay used every tool to try to get moderates to toe the party line on issues such as taxes, abortion and spending, while Shays used the rules of the House to pound through things like campaign finance reform.


When DeLay and Shays could reach agreement, the party did well. When they couldn’t, the wheels came off the wagon and the party ended up in the ditch.


Powell is no lily-livered liberal. His military doctrine — the idea that when we go into battle, we should use only overwhelming force and that we should have an exit strategy before we go in — would have come in handy in Iraq. A decorated military hero, Powell also gives needed credibility to a GOP that is far too easily accused of being the chicken hawk party. Like Eisenhower, Powell can speak truth to power when it comes to the military-industrial complex and other issues related to national security. His voice (and that of others who agree with him, including Brent Scowcroft and George H.W. Bush) should be respected and listened to.

[HI54UNI]

JC might be a conservative but I don't think Powell is.....

I believe he is a registered Republican.

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell ended speculation regarding his political affiliation, which had been fueled in no small way by the comments of Rush Limbaugh and former Vice President Dick Cheney. Powell’s vote for and public support of the Democratic nominee and now president, Barack Obama, helped add to the confusion.


Powell told “Face the Nation” over the weekend, “Rush will not get his wish, and Mr. Cheney was misinformed. I am still a Republican.” That is a good thing.
Republicans — including very conservative Republicans like Indiana Rep. Mark Souder and especially those Republicans who are standing for reelection — want Powell to stay in the party.


Powell is no social conservative. He supports abortion rights, and he has voiced support for affirmative action. He recently said that most people want more government in their lives, a dubious statement in the eyes of the conservative movement.


But Powell serves a vital role as a proud member of the Republican Party. He serves as a counter­weight to those who would take the party too far to the right, those who seek orthodoxy on a variety of social and fiscal issues and those who see only absolutes in a world of gray.


As someone who watched the Republican Party prosper in the 1990s, only to see it essentially collapse during the 2006 election, I believe balance is essential to the party’s rebirth. I watched from my perch as a leadership staffer as Tom DeLay and Chris Shays battled it out on issue after issue. DeLay sought to take the party to the right; Shays, to the left. DeLay used every tool to try to get moderates to toe the party line on issues such as taxes, abortion and spending, while Shays used the rules of the House to pound through things like campaign finance reform.


When DeLay and Shays could reach agreement, the party did well. When they couldn’t, the wheels came off the wagon and the party ended up in the ditch.


Powell is no lily-livered liberal. His military doctrine — the idea that when we go into battle, we should use only overwhelming force and that we should have an exit strategy before we go in — would have come in handy in Iraq. A decorated military hero, Powell also gives needed credibility to a GOP that is far too easily accused of being the chicken hawk party. Like Eisenhower, Powell can speak truth to power when it comes to the military-industrial complex and other issues related to national security. His voice (and that of others who agree with him, including Brent Scowcroft and George H.W. Bush) should be respected and listened to.

Just because he is a R doesn't mean he is conservative......

[catamount man]

You really think some black folks would not for Cain? Hell and I get bad names........

that is stereotypical at its finest. I am certain this time around A LOT of blacks would vote GOP if Cain was the nominee. Just a feeling. Obama hasn't improved their overall lot last time I looked.