North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Football Championship Subdivision discussions
User avatar
Darell1976
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1359
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:39 am
I am a fan of: THE Univ. of North Dakota
A.K.A.: darell1976
Location: Fargo, ND

North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Darell1976 »

http://siouxfb.areavoices.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Coming off a 16-0 win over the Drake Bulldogs in week one of the 2011 season, the Sioux travel out to Moscow, Idaho to take on the Idaho Vandals. Idaho is the first of two straight FBS tilts for the Sioux, as they travel to Fresno State the following weekend. Idaho (0-1) lost their home opener 32-15 to Bowling Green. They were picked to finish 5th in the WAC by Phil Steele.
Sioux in an upset and their first FBS win 35-31.
2011 GWFC Co-Champs!!!!
Now Playoff Eligible!!
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 31519
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Gil Dobie »

Darell1976 wrote: Sioux in an upset and their first FBS win 35-31.
There is a chance for an upset, but I'm going with Idaho 31-15
Image
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by JBB »

I like your call Gil. Its intuative. This game looks a lot like EWU/USD with USD and UND playing the same part. If there ever were a chance for an upset this would be it. Whats it take to get the upset. Generally a good team that appears to be overmatched having a great day. We do have UND being overmatched but they arent a good team. Thats what makes me shy away from any upset talk. There is no evidence of an upset in the statistics or the spirit of the game.

Why cant UND get the win:

1) no depth
2) posititonal weakness
3) lack of overall team speed

Last week UNDs competition wasnt very good. Lafayette was a far better team yet UND only mustered a 16-0 win. A good team would have put up 40 or more. Good teams should do very well against weaker competition.

What stood out in last weeks win?

1) shutout more a sign of Drakes inability than overwhelming defense, but it is a feather in the cap and a good sign
2) Drake = 43 yds rushing. I know the rushing stats dont mean anything to EWU fans but that could indicate an improved UND defense or Drakes ineptness.
3) UND time of possession over 33 min
4) 56% third down conversion rate. Could be a sign of a weak Drake offense but again good sign for UND.
5) Good field goal kicker for UND

Why UND fans should be worried:

1) Drake put up over 200 yds passing, Idaho had 228 and generated points.
2) The UND offense was very anemic last week. 143 on the ground 137 in the air. That was against weak competition.
3) 12 UND penalties last week
4) Idaho had 228 yds passing

Ive made no adj. to my statistical analysis for strength of schedule. UND is on the road. UND wins by doing exactly what they did to Drake. Limit the rushing and make their drives count mixing the run and the pass. If they cant do that its over.

Idaho by 3 TDs.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
Darell1976
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1359
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:39 am
I am a fan of: THE Univ. of North Dakota
A.K.A.: darell1976
Location: Fargo, ND

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Darell1976 »

JBB wrote:I like your call Gil. Its intuative. This game looks a lot like EWU/USD with USD and UND playing the same part. If there ever were a chance for an upset this would be it. Whats it take to get the upset. Generally a good team that appears to be overmatched having a great day. We do have UND being overmatched but they arent a good team. Thats what makes me shy away from any upset talk. There is no evidence of an upset in the statistics or the spirit of the game.

Why cant UND get the win:

1) no depth
2) posititonal weakness
3) lack of overall team speed

Last week UNDs competition wasnt very good. Lafayette was a far better team yet UND only mustered a 16-0 win. A good team would have put up 40 or more. Good teams should do very well against weaker competition.

What stood out in last weeks win?

1) shutout more a sign of Drakes inability than overwhelming defense, but it is a feather in the cap and a good sign
2) Drake = 43 yds rushing. I know the rushing stats dont mean anything to EWU fans but that could indicate an improved UND defense or Drakes ineptness.
3) UND time of possession over 33 min
4) 56% third down conversion rate. Could be a sign of a weak Drake offense but again good sign for UND.
5) Good field goal kicker for UND

Why UND fans should be worried:

1) Drake put up over 200 yds passing, Idaho had 228 and generated points.
2) The UND offense was very anemic last week. 143 on the ground 137 in the air. That was against weak competition.
3) 12 UND penalties last week
4) Idaho had 228 yds passing

Ive made no adj. to my statistical analysis for strength of schedule. UND is on the road. UND wins by doing exactly what they did to Drake. Limit the rushing and make their drives count mixing the run and the pass. If they cant do that its over.

Idaho by 3 TDs.
Tell that to Northern Colorado and Oregon State. Upsets happen all the time, and stats don't mean crap the week before if you can't play NOW!
2011 GWFC Co-Champs!!!!
Now Playoff Eligible!!
User avatar
Hambone
Level1
Level1
Posts: 306
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:02 pm
I am a fan of: U of North Dakota
Location: Mayer, MN

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Hambone »

Game on - Idaho gets the ball first and goes 3 and out after 3 runs.
THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS
User avatar
dbackjon
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 45628
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:20 am
I am a fan of: Northern Arizona
A.K.A.: He/Him
Location: Scottsdale

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by dbackjon »

Geaux Sioux! Beat the Palins
:thumb:
User avatar
Hambone
Level1
Level1
Posts: 306
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:02 pm
I am a fan of: U of North Dakota
Location: Mayer, MN

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Hambone »

Sioux pick up a couple first downs into Idaho territory.
THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS
User avatar
Sarah Palin
Level1
Level1
Posts: 164
Joined: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:31 pm
I am a fan of: Idaho
A.K.A.: Next POTUS

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Sarah Palin »

Go Vandals!
User avatar
Hambone
Level1
Level1
Posts: 306
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:02 pm
I am a fan of: U of North Dakota
Location: Mayer, MN

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Hambone »

And the drive stalls at the 40 - Sioux punt and the ball rolls into the end zone for a touchback.
THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS
User avatar
Hambone
Level1
Level1
Posts: 306
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:02 pm
I am a fan of: U of North Dakota
Location: Mayer, MN

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Hambone »

Sioux get the sack on third down, and its another 3 and out.
THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS
User avatar
Hambone
Level1
Level1
Posts: 306
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:02 pm
I am a fan of: U of North Dakota
Location: Mayer, MN

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Hambone »

Idaho putting together a good drive and are down to the Sioux 22 with a little over 3 minutes left in the first.
THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS
User avatar
Darell1976
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1359
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:39 am
I am a fan of: THE Univ. of North Dakota
A.K.A.: darell1976
Location: Fargo, ND

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Darell1976 »

TD- Sioux!!!!!!! 54yd TD reception

Sioux 14
Idaho 3 2nd Qtr
2011 GWFC Co-Champs!!!!
Now Playoff Eligible!!
User avatar
dbackjon
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 45628
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:20 am
I am a fan of: Northern Arizona
A.K.A.: He/Him
Location: Scottsdale

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by dbackjon »

Darell1976 wrote:TD- Sioux!!!!!!! 54yd TD reception

Sioux 14
Idaho 3 2nd Qtr

:thumb:
:thumb:
User avatar
DJH
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3210
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:17 pm
I am a fan of: The MVC
Location: NORTHERN IOWA

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by DJH »

Keep it up Sioux.
UNI FIGHT
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 31519
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Gil Dobie »

Nice job Sioux :thumb:
Image
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by JBB »

Its 17-14 Idaho now. UND has been looking good. Idaho is starting to take control. They ended the first half with a beautiful drive.

UND is tackling a lot better.
They are starting to look a little faster.
They are good getting to the ball on defense. Not a lot of yds after catch.
Offense is imaginative and starting to click a little bit.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
Darell1976
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1359
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:39 am
I am a fan of: THE Univ. of North Dakota
A.K.A.: darell1976
Location: Fargo, ND

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Darell1976 »

Fire Mussman!!!
2011 GWFC Co-Champs!!!!
Now Playoff Eligible!!
User avatar
Hambone
Level1
Level1
Posts: 306
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:02 pm
I am a fan of: U of North Dakota
Location: Mayer, MN

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Hambone »

Very poor showing by UND in the second half. Outscored 34-0 in the second half to lose 44-14. Defense couldn't get any pressure, and gave up all sorts of yardage. Mussman seems to play not to get blown out rather than play to win. Disappointing showing.
THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by JBB »

Wow! Sure had to look down the page to find this thread!

UND looked good early. Faded. Not a good team. Muzz was manic when he had the 2 score lead. I thought he was the hockey coach for a while. Then, when things started to even out he got mad.
Football Gestalt wrote:Great call JBB. Another winner
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by JBB »

Can anyone report on what the Muzz has to say? I think he wanted this one real bad.

Early on it looked good. Rarely have you seen a more confident, and dare I say Cocky coach. Later, when things were turning the other way he became angry. The UND team is better this year though. Last year it was 45-0. This year the offense is 14 pts better and the defense is 1 pt better.
JBB wrote:I think its important to measure your results.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
BlueHen86
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 13555
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:40 pm
I am a fan of: The McManus Brothers
A.K.A.: Duffman
Location: Area XI

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by BlueHen86 »

JBB wrote:Can anyone report on what the Muzz has to say? I think he wanted this one real bad.

Early on it looked good. Rarely have you seen a more confident, and dare I say Cocky coach. Later, when things were turning the other way he became angry. The UND team is better this year though. Last year it was 45-0. This year the offense is 14 pts better and the defense is 1 pt better.
JBB wrote:I think its important to measure your results.
You should try measuring how big of an asshole you are. They probably don't have a number for it, and if they did you wouldn't be able to comprehend it.
User avatar
Darell1976
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1359
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:39 am
I am a fan of: THE Univ. of North Dakota
A.K.A.: darell1976
Location: Fargo, ND

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Darell1976 »

We will see how Mussman prepares the team for yet another FBS team in Fresno State, who lost by 13 to Nebraska. Which Sioux team will show up the first half Sioux or the second half Sioux.
2011 GWFC Co-Champs!!!!
Now Playoff Eligible!!
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by JBB »

What? I thought it was a good game!

Image
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by JBB »

What do you mean which Sioux Team? The one that beat Drake 16-0 or the one that lost tonight?

Image
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
Darell1976
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1359
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:39 am
I am a fan of: THE Univ. of North Dakota
A.K.A.: darell1976
Location: Fargo, ND

Re: North Dakota @ Idaho-preview

Post by Darell1976 »

The one that led Idaho 14-10 at halftime.
2011 GWFC Co-Champs!!!!
Now Playoff Eligible!!
Post Reply