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BDKJMU wrote:Its usually the President or the Vice President addressing their annual convention. For the first time in its 112-year history, no one from the White House has committed to making an appearance. :ohno:

"VFW Accuses White House of Snubbing Annual Convention

The Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week will not feature a top-tier official from the Obama administration, a breach in tradition that the group's commander described as an "insult of the highest magnitude."

However, an administration official claimed Monday that the White House made "every effort" to provide a speaker for the event, offering up a range of top officials.

"In all instances, the VFW declined those offers," the official said.

The veterans group is accustomed to playing host to the nation's most powerful people at its national conference. Obama addressed the VFW in 2009, followed by Vice President Biden in 2010.

But the 2-million strong VFW accused the administration of snubbing its members by not providing a "first-tier speaker" for the first time in VFW history.

"The VFW has had a long-standing tradition of inviting the sitting president to address our convention," Richard Eubank, national commander of the organization, said in a statement, adding that the White House typically chooses a "high-level administration official" to speak if the president cannot attend.

"It is an insult of the highest magnitude that for the first time in the history of the VFW, the White House has apparently decided that this great and iconic organization of combat veterans and all of its members are not worthy of its notice by not at least offering a first-tier speaker from the administration."

The senior administration official said the White House did offer several potential speakers, including U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice. The Air Force pitched its secretary and chief of staff; the National Guard offered the Army National Guard director.

It's not clear why they were turned down. The VFW did not return requests for comment.

Deputy White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Monday that W. Scott Gould, deputy secretary of Veterans Affairs, will be addressing the convention. He noted that Obama will address the American Legion -- on Tuesday -- but explained that the president simply can't honor every speaking request.

"The president and his administration continue to have deep respect and appreciation for our servicemembers and veterans, and this can be clearly seen in this administration's policies and actions," Earnest said. "The president receives many speaking requests throughout the year but he is unable to meet them all. ... And while the president will not be attending the VFW conference in person, he has transmitted to VFW a written message to be relayed to all conference attendees."

Perhaps incidentally, Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry was speaking at that conference Monday.

The Texas governor's office initially did not respond to the VFW's invitation -- after Eubank last week chided Perry, along with Obama, the governor told the VFW he was able to adjust his schedule and attend.

At the convention in San Antonio Monday, Perry stressed that American soldiers should be "led by American commanders," griping about international coalitions he described as "multilateral debating societies."

Asked about the VFW convention Monday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney did not comment other than to say he doesn't think Perry's invitation factored into the administration's difficulty in fitting VFW into its schedule.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, another top GOP presidential candidate, is also scheduled to address the group this week."
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The VFW doesn't want to hear the prez anyway, they want to listen to a real warrior. Like Dick Cheney. :rofl:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:VFW (very frail warriors) kind of piss me off with their attitudes. They can suck it.
1st of all its pretty repugnant that anyone would harbor that attitude towards those American war vets who are very frail- the WWII and Korean War vets. :ohno: :ohno:

2nd of all, they're not all frail. The VFW is for vets of ALL foreign wars the US has been involved in. Most of the Vietnam vets are in their 60s. Most of the Desert Storm Vets are in their 40s. And most of the vets from Iraq and Afghanistan are in their 20s-30s. There's probably more vets alive today from Vietnam & the 1st & 2nd Gulf Wars & Afghanistan than from WWII and Korea.
Poindexter, you ever been to a VFW meeting or stepped food in a VFW Hall? They're fucking pathetic, like most vets. All they do is smoke cigarettes and bitch about the government not doing enough for em.

Vets are some of the biggest welfare whores on the planet, you dipshit. :nod:
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D1B wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
1st of all its pretty repugnant that anyone would harbor that attitude towards those American war vets who are very frail- the WWII and Korean War vets. :ohno: :ohno:

2nd of all, they're not all frail. The VFW is for vets of ALL foreign wars the US has been involved in. Most of the Vietnam vets are in their 60s. Most of the Desert Storm Vets are in their 40s. And most of the vets from Iraq and Afghanistan are in their 20s-30s. There's probably more vets alive today from Vietnam & the 1st & 2nd Gulf Wars & Afghanistan than from WWII and Korea.
Poindexter, you ever been to a VFW meeting or stepped food in a VFW Hall? They're fucking pathetic, like most vets. All they do is smoke cigarettes and bitch about the government not doing enough for em.

Vets are some of the biggest welfare whores on the planet, you dipshit. :nod:


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Libs showing their true colors in this one. :ohno:
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
D1B wrote:
Poindexter, you ever been to a VFW meeting or stepped food in a VFW Hall? They're **** pathetic, like most vets. All they do is smoke cigarettes and bitch about the government not doing enough for em.

Vets are some of the biggest welfare whores on the planet, you dipshit. :nod:

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89Hen wrote:Libs showing their true colors in this one. :ohno:


At least we take a stand, you holier-than-thou, fence-straddling pussy.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
89Hen wrote:Libs showing their true colors in this one. :ohno:


At least we take a stand, you holier-than-thou, fence-straddling pussy.

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:lol: What fence? Obama is an elitist and should be ashamed of not throwing a bone to our veterans if this story is true.
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D1B wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
1st of all its pretty repugnant that anyone would harbor that attitude towards those American war vets who are very frail- the WWII and Korean War vets. :ohno: :ohno:

2nd of all, they're not all frail. The VFW is for vets of ALL foreign wars the US has been involved in. Most of the Vietnam vets are in their 60s. Most of the Desert Storm Vets are in their 40s. And most of the vets from Iraq and Afghanistan are in their 20s-30s. There's probably more vets alive today from Vietnam & the 1st & 2nd Gulf Wars & Afghanistan than from WWII and Korea.
Poindexter, you ever been to a VFW meeting or stepped food in a VFW Hall? They're fucking pathetic, like most vets. All they do is smoke cigarettes and bitch about the government not doing enough for em.

Vets are some of the biggest welfare whores on the planet, you dipshit. :nod:

They also stick their noses in the air towards the American Legion because "they did not serve in a foreign war".

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
89Hen wrote:Libs showing their true colors in this one. :ohno:


At least we take a stand, you holier-than-thou, fence-straddling pussy.

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The irony of that statement in a thread regarding veterans of foreign wars can't POSSIBLY escape you.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
89Hen wrote:Libs showing their true colors in this one. :ohno:


At least we take a stand, you holier-than-thou, fence-straddling pussy.

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Believe me, I'll never be accused of being a Democrat or a liberal, but if Obama was there in '09 & Biden in '10 did they really think they'd be back again in '11?? What's the track record of presidents coming 2x in 3 years? Looks conveniently left out.. Let's deal with facts not accusations.

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Wedgebuster wrote:They also stick their noses in the air towards the American Legion because "they did not serve in a foreign war".

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D1B wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
1st of all its pretty repugnant that anyone would harbor that attitude towards those American war vets who are very frail- the WWII and Korean War vets. :ohno: :ohno:

2nd of all, they're not all frail. The VFW is for vets of ALL foreign wars the US has been involved in. Most of the Vietnam vets are in their 60s. Most of the Desert Storm Vets are in their 40s. And most of the vets from Iraq and Afghanistan are in their 20s-30s. There's probably more vets alive today from Vietnam & the 1st & 2nd Gulf Wars & Afghanistan than from WWII and Korea.
Poindexter, you ever been to a VFW meeting or stepped food in a VFW Hall? They're fucking pathetic, like most vets. All they do is smoke cigarettes and bitch about the government not doing enough for em.

Vets are some of the biggest welfare whores on the planet, you dipshit. :nod:

I won't speak for all VFW posts but I can tell you that is not what goes on at my post. The major discussions we have are how we can spend the money we have in the right way and what events are coming up. The single biggest thing we do as an organization is perform honor guard at funerals. My post does 4-10 a week and do it without getting one red cent back, it isn’t why we do it. Many funerals would be performed without military honors if we did not go and do it since our wonderful president has decided to cut back on this "unnecessary" service.

I personally could give two shits less if BHO or his numb nut counterpart where there, seems like it would be a more productive meeting if they weren’t there. :coffee:
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Wedgebuster wrote:
D1B wrote:
Poindexter, you ever been to a VFW meeting or stepped food in a VFW Hall? They're fucking pathetic, like most vets. All they do is smoke cigarettes and bitch about the government not doing enough for em.

Vets are some of the biggest welfare whores on the planet, you dipshit. :nod:

They also stick their noses in the air towards the American Legion because "they did not serve in a foreign war".

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
I've never once seen this and I have been to many events where both were present. 1/2 the people in the VFW post I am in belong to both. :twocents:
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GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:

They also stick their noses in the air towards the American Legion because "they did not serve in a foreign war".

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
I've never once seen this and I have been to many events where both were present. 1/2 the people in the VFW post I am in belong to both. :twocents:
This is the practice at our local clubs, VFW only lets in those who can prove they went overseas, and acts as if they are most special. No secret either, everybody knows it.
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Wedgebuster wrote:This is the practice at our local clubs, VFW only lets in those who can prove they went overseas, and acts as if they are most special. No secret either, everybody knows it.
Anyone know what VFW stands for?
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Wasn't Ollie North available?
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Wedgebuster wrote:
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
I've never once seen this and I have been to many events where both were present. 1/2 the people in the VFW post I am in belong to both. :twocents:
This is the practice at our local clubs, VFW only lets in those who can prove they went overseas, and acts as if they are most special. No secret either, everybody knows it.
They need to reconsider what they are doing then. That is not what their charter is or what they should be doing and should be made to answer for it. Both organizations serve a function and have their things to do. I am in both and will continue to be in both as long as I think they are doing what they should be doing to serve their community. I would not be attending the VFW meetings if they were acting that way. :ohno:
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89Hen wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:This is the practice at our local clubs, VFW only lets in those who can prove they went overseas, and acts as if they are most special. No secret either, everybody knows it.
Anyone know what VFW stands for?
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GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
89Hen wrote: Anyone know what VFW stands for?
I'll bite....
I was just wondering why Wedge would complain about a group called Veterans of Foreign Wars only letting in veterans of foreign wars.
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89Hen wrote:
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
I'll bite....
I was just wondering why Wedge would complain about a group called Veterans of Foreign Wars only letting in veterans of foreign wars.
I agree with your point and I agree but I also don't think they need to act like dicks about it.
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GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:I agree with your point and I agree but I also don't think they need to act like dicks about it.
They don't (if they do), but you have to understand that Wedge's perceived reality isn't neccessarily reality at all. My guess is he wanted to join the VFW but got turned down.
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89Hen wrote:
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:I agree with your point and I agree but I also don't think they need to act like dicks about it.
They don't (if they do), but you have to understand that Wedge's perceived reality isn't neccessarily reality at all. My guess is he wanted to join the VFW but got turned down.
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No complaining hen, just saying, they can suck it.

So can you BTW :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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Man, this is the biggest Conk/military circlejerk in years here...........


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