Tripoli

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From everything coming in, it sounds like the place is about to be completely fall into the people's hands within the next few hours. Gaddafi's son was just captured, and there's a rumor swirling around that the dictator himself might've been killed today (although others say he's fled).

Any thoughts? I'm not particularly sure I liked our involvement, but it wasn't a full blown military commitment by the US, and might've created a blue print on how to deal with future murderous dictators.

[travelinman67]

UN colonization.

[ASUG8]

I heard McCain on Face the Nation talking about it this morning. He was saying it should be a shot across the bow for Yemen and others in the Middle East, and he was lamenting that the US involvement wasn't enough (which I disagree with). Glad the Brits and French could take the lead on this for once.

[travelinman67]

Dang, that was fast...sounds like Saddam Hussein has some competition for the "mother of all defeats" title...

Libya rebels in Tripoli, Gadhafi defenses collapse
Aug 21, 8:21 PM EDT
By KARIN LAUB and BEN HUBBARD
Associated Press

TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) -- Libyan rebels raced into Tripoli in a lighting advance Sunday that met little resistance as Moammar Gadhafi's defenders melted away and his 40-year rule appeared to rapidly crumble. The euphoric fighters celebrated with residents of the capital in the city's main square, the symbolic heart of the regime.

Opposition fighters captured Gadhafi's son and one-time heir apparent, Seif al-Islam. The prosecutor at the International Criminal Court in the Netherlands said he would contact the rebels to discuss his handover for trial on charges of crimes against humanity.

Associated Press reporters with the rebels said the fighters rebels easily advanced 20 miles on Sunday from the west, took town after town - welcomed by residents - overwhelmed a major military base, then swept into the capital in a stunning turning of the tide in the 6-month-old Libyan civil war.

The fighters and Tripoli residents who support them flooded Green Square, shooting in the air in celebration, clapping and waving the rebels' tri-color flag, according to television footage of the scene. Some set fire to the green flag of Gadhafi's regime and shot holes in a poster with his image.

"Now we don't call it the Green Square, but we call it the Martyrs Square," said Nour Eddin Shatouni, a 50-year-old engineer who was among the residents who flowed out of their homes to join the celebrations. "We were waiting for the signal and it happened. All mosques chanted 'God is great' all at once. We smelled a good scent, it is the smell of victory. We know it is the time."

Green Square holds profound symbolic value. The regime has held pro-Gadhafi rallies there nearly every night since the revolt began in February, and the historic Red Fort that overlooks the square is a favorite scenic spot for the Libyan leader to deliver speeches to his loyalists.

Thousands of Libyans also celebrated in the streets of Benghazi, the rebels' de facto capital in the east. Firing guns into the air and shooting fireworks, they cheered and waved the rebel tricolor flags, dancing and singing in the city's main square.

Gadhafi's whereabouts Sunday were unknown. But he delivered a series of angry and defiant audio messages broadcast on state television, calling on his supporters to march in the streets of the capital and "purify it" from "the rats." He was not shown in the messages.

His defiance raised the possibility of a last-ditch fight over the capital, home to 2 million people. Government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim claimed the regime has "thousands and thousands of fighters" and vowed: "We will fight. We have whole cities on our sides. They are coming en masse to protect Tripoli to join the fight."

But it appeared that key parts of Gadhafi's military were peeling away.

The rebels' way into Tripoli was opened when the military unit in charge of protecting Gadhafi and the capital surrendered, ordering his troops to drop their weapons, the rebel information minister Mahmoud Shammam said.

In a sign of the coordination among rebels, as the main force moved into the city from the west, a second force of 200 opposition fighters from the city of Misrata further east landed by boat in the capital, bringing weapons and ammunition for Tripoli residents who join the rebellion, said Munir Ramzi of the rebels' military council in Misrata...

Now...will Gaddafi wind up in the ICC dock...or will he be given a pass to keep his mouth shut about past "deals"?

[HI54UNI]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

[CID1990]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

I don't think the answer to that is going to be very difficult.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

Given that the transitional authority already has an 18 month timetable for a transition to free elections, I'd say it'll be a damn sight better.

[SuperHornet]

Khaddafi is in some deep doo-doo....

[HI54UNI]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

Given that the transitional authority already has an 18 month timetable for a transition to free elections, I'd say it'll be a damn sight better.

I hope they follow through and that it happens. What they say and what will happen are often two different things....

[Rob Iola]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

Given that the transitional authority already has an 18 month timetable for a transition to free elections, I'd say it'll be a damn sight better.

Headed up by the Iran and Syria delegations?

[Appaholic]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

Given that the transitional authority already has an 18 month timetable for a transition to free elections, I'd say it'll be a damn sight better.

Libya's not ready for free elections....anymore than Afshitistan & Iraqimire.... ...they're not capcable of running an ice cream stand, much less a country with oil reserves....

[Wedgebuster]

Bomb them to freedom.

[bluehenbillk]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

As long as they remember who helped them out & they cut us a helluva deal on oil, I don't really care.

[travelinman67]

The million dollar question, what comes after Gadhafi? Will it be better or worse?

As long as they remember who helped them out & they cut us a helluva deal on oil, I don't really care.

There's one question more important...

...where's the billions in assets Gaddafi's squirreled away over the past 40 years?

If you think Mubarrak had embezzled "state" funds...think what 40 years would amass.

I'll wager the UN takes the lion's share, and transfers the remainder to the oil producers for "reparation" of damaged infrastructure. The Libyan citizens won't see a dime.