Stop Coddling the Super Poor

[D1B]

Racist stereotyping. The person(s) above don't exist in high enough numbers to be relevant. Again, you've been duped by politicians to believe the welfare queen myth so you wont notice them stealing your money for the wealthy. Actually, you appear to be so **** that you probably don't mind them stealing your money, cuz it's goin to wealthy white folk.

Bullshit. Come to an East Coast Food Lion or Wal-Mart of your choice and smell reality. Its there everyday, and is ubiquitous.

You have no clue. There's 100 million people on the East Coast and you're gonna take such a caustic and inhumane position based on what you see at a fucking Walmart!?

[AZGrizFan]

So you are saying that the majority of the poor are stuck in low-wage jobs? I'd contend that the majority of the poor ARE NOT working. There are many landscaping, food service, meat-processing, etc jobs currently filled by illegals that could and should be filled by our home-grown parasites.

Every poor person I know is working. I know alot of poor people. Most poor who aint working are women with children. Many of them are victims of domestic violence and have been abandoned. They aint parasites, it's tough to make it the job market and take care of your kids. This is the reality. It is cheaper for you and I in the long run to help these women so their kids stay out of prison and the welfare system.
Again, it sucks, but I'm right.

Lame Lame Lame and absofuckinglutely the most retarded logic you've EVER used here. And THAT is saying a ton.

[DJH]

Every poor person I know is working. I know alot of poor people. Most poor who aint working are women with children. Many of them are victims of domestic violence and have been abandoned. They aint parasites, it's tough to make it the job market and take care of your kids. This is the reality. It is cheaper for you and I in the long run to help these women so their kids stay out of prison and the welfare system.
Again, it sucks, but I'm right.

Lame Lame Lame and absofuckinglutely the most retarded logic you've EVER used here. And THAT is saying a ton.

No kidding. That is a short term solution, and as JBBP has pointed out, only further perpetuates the problem because of the increased reliance on such things.

[ODUsmitty]

So the basis of your argument is that the poor are stealing our money, but don't worry, because the military is stealing more?

I agree the military is inefficient, having spent 10 years in the Navy. I think all government departments need cutting by 10% immediately, including Defense, with Dept of Education, Dept of Labor, and Dept of Energy realistically taking 25% cuts, and the Dept of Agriculture cut by 50%. (home loans, electricifcation projects, etc...really?) . Now, getting into EPA, OSHA, FMx2, and IRS would be just fun............

However, your Relative Morality is fukked up. the political machine supports. subsidizes, and encourages the underclass as part of a loyal voting block.

Ever go to the State Fair? Pretty fucked up people......I am not one of these, and loathe the irresponsibility I see. Grow the fuck up, pay your fair share to support Constitutionally-mandated requirements, and leave me the fuck alone.

[D1B]

Every poor person I know is working. I know alot of poor people. Most poor who aint working are women with children. Many of them are victims of domestic violence and have been abandoned. They aint parasites, it's tough to make it the job market and take care of your kids. This is the reality. It is cheaper for you and I in the long run to help these women so their kids stay out of prison and the welfare system.
Again, it sucks, but I'm right.

Lame Lame Lame and absofuckinglutely the most retarded logic you've EVER used here. And THAT is saying a ton.

Go fuck yourself, prove me wrong asshole or shut the fuck up.

[AZGrizFan]

Lame Lame Lame and absofuckinglutely the most retarded logic you've EVER used here. And THAT is saying a ton.

Go fuck yourself, prove me wrong asshole or shut the fuck up.

So, we provide THEM welfare so that we don't end up providing their KIDS welfare? Yet, somehow, we get countless families that become welfare dependent generation after generation....

You provide a ready-made excuse for NOONE below the poverty line to EVER be responsible for their actions....they can just say "I was born poor!"

[D1B]

So the basis of your argument is that the poor are stealing our money, but don't worry, because the military is stealing more?

I agree the military is inefficient, having spent 10 years in the Navy. I think all government departments need cutting by 10% immediately, including Defense, with Dept of Education, Dept of Labor, and Dept of Energy realistically taking 25% cuts, and the Dept of Agriculture cut by 50%. (home loans, electricifcation projects, etc...really?) . Now, getting into EPA, OSHA, FMx2, and IRS would be just fun............

However, your Relative Morality is fukked up. the political machine supports. subsidizes, and encourages the underclass as part of a loyal voting block.

Ever go to the State Fair? Pretty fucked up people......I am not one of these, and loathe the irresponsibility I see. Grow the fuck up, pay your fair share to support Constitutionally-mandated requirements, and leave me the fuck alone.

You're just a hater of the poor.

[AZGrizFan]

So the basis of your argument is that the poor are stealing our money, but don't worry, because the military is stealing more?

I agree the military is inefficient, having spent 10 years in the Navy. I think all government departments need cutting by 10% immediately, including Defense, with Dept of Education, Dept of Labor, and Dept of Energy realistically taking 25% cuts, and the Dept of Agriculture cut by 50%. (home loans, electricifcation projects, etc...really?) . Now, getting into EPA, OSHA, FMx2, and IRS would be just fun............

However, your Relative Morality is fukked up. the political machine supports. subsidizes, and encourages the underclass as part of a loyal voting block.

Ever go to the State Fair? Pretty fucked up people......I am not one of these, and loathe the irresponsibility I see. Grow the fuck up, pay your fair share to support Constitutionally-mandated requirements, and leave me the fuck alone.

You're just a hater of the poor.

Translation: You're right, and I have no intelligent comeback.

[ODUsmitty]

Is this the best you have? "hater of the poor"!!! Is this fukking amateur hour??????

I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE POOR THAT ARE POOR FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEIR OWN ADDICTIONs, LAZINESS, STUPIDITY, LACK OF IMPULSE CONTROL, AND MULTIPLE BASTARD BIRTHS.

Their irresponsibility is not my mandate to support them.

Screw them, their generational dependency, and their lack of any accountability whatsoever.

Suck on that D1B.

[D1B]

Go fuck yourself, prove me wrong asshole or shut the fuck up.

So, we provide THEM welfare so that we don't end up providing their KIDS welfare? Yet, somehow, we get countless families that become welfare dependent generation after generation....

You provide a ready-made excuse for NOONE below the poverty line to EVER be responsible for their actions....they can just say "I was born poor!"

Bullshit, asshole. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's a proven fact that children living in poverty are vulnerable. Are such a fuckhead that you don't grasp this simple concept?

What experience do you have with the poor Z? Seriously, have you ever got within 10 feet of a truly poor person, you elitist fat fuck? Have you ever talked to them?

Go back to ass fucking yourself with Atlas Shrugged you evil piece of shit.

[AZGrizFan]

So, we provide THEM welfare so that we don't end up providing their KIDS welfare? Yet, somehow, we get countless families that become welfare dependent generation after generation....

You provide a ready-made excuse for NOONE below the poverty line to EVER be responsible for their actions....they can just say "I was born poor!"

Bullshit, asshole. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's a proven fact that children living in poverty are vulnerable. Are such a fuckhead that you don't grasp this simple concept?

What experience do you have with the poor Z? Seriously, have you ever got within 10 feet of a truly poor person, you elitist fat fuck? Have you ever talked to them?

Go back to ass fucking yourself with Atlas Shrugged you evil piece of shit.

So you have no intelligent comeback for me either?

[D1B]

Is this the best you have? "hater of the poor"!!! Is this fukking amateur hour??????

I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE POOR THAT ARE POOR FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEIR OWN ADDICTIONs, LAZINESS, STUPIDITY, LACK OF IMPULSE CONTROL, AND MULTIPLE BASTARD BIRTHS.

Their irresponsibility is not my mandate to support them.

Screw them, their generational dependency, and their lack of any accountability whatsoever.

Suck on that D1B.

Why are you so concerned about them? Their numbers are so small. Did one of em fling shit at you while you and your domestic partner were in line at the box office?

[D1B]

Bullshit, asshole. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's a proven fact that children living in poverty are vulnerable. Are such a fuckhead that you don't grasp this simple concept?

What experience do you have with the poor Z? Seriously, have you ever got within 10 feet of a truly poor person, you elitist fat fuck? Have you ever talked to them?

Go back to ass fucking yourself with Atlas Shrugged you evil piece of shit.

So you have no intelligent comeback for me either?

We're just getting started, coward. Answer the questions.

[ODUsmitty]

D1B,
I'd love to have a conversation with these folks. However, when I am overseeing landscaping in my yard or needing someone to carry my golf bag, I only get responses in spanish from folks that have recently entered our country willing to work hard for an honest wage.

Your group of "great americans" are too busy collecting their government checks in the mailbox of their government-subsidized housing, while eating government-subsidized meals to be distracted actually doing the work for which they are capable.

F them.

[AZGrizFan]

So you have no intelligent comeback for me either?

We're just getting started, coward. Answer the questions.

Fine. No. Lots. Yes. Yes.

[D1B]

D1B,
I'd love to have a conversation with these folks. However, when I am overseeing landscaping in my yard or needing someone to carry my golf bag, I only get responses in spanish from folks that have recently entered our country willing to work hard for an honest wage.

Your group of "great americans" are too busy collecting their government checks in the mailbox of their government-subsidized housing, while eating government-subsidized meals to be distracted actually doing the work for which they are capable.

F them.

Great, fuck em. Now let's talk about the american military and the millions of soldier and sailors on welfare.

[AZGrizFan]

D1B,
I'd love to have a conversation with these folks. However, when I am overseeing landscaping in my yard or needing someone to carry my golf bag, I only get responses in spanish from folks that have recently entered our country willing to work hard for an honest wage.

Your group of "great americans" are too busy collecting their government checks in the mailbox of their government-subsidized housing, while eating government-subsidized meals to be distracted actually doing the work for which they are capable.

F them.

Great, fuck em. Now let's talk about the american military and the millions of soldier and sailors on welfare.

That's an easily solved problem. Bring home all troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Germany, Italy, England, Spain, Korea & Japan....cut defense budget by 40%, and give every remaining solder/sailor/airman a 25% raise.

edit: And we don't even have 'miillions of soldiers and sailors".

[clenz]

Great, fuck em. Now let's talk about the american military and the millions of soldier and sailors on welfare.

That's an easily solved problem. Bring home all troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Germany, Italy, England, Spain, Korea & Japan....cut defense budget by 40%, and give every remaining solder/sailor/airman a 25% raise.

edit: And we don't even have 'miillions of soldiers and sailors".

While not all of these are soldiers and sailors....um.....straight from the Beauro of Labor Statistics website

The military provides training and work experience in these and many other fields for more than 2.4 million people. More than 1.4 million people serve in the active Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, and more than 1.0 million serve in their Reserve components and the Air and Army National Guard. (The Coast Guard, which also is discussed in this Handbook statement, is part of the Department of Homeland Security.)


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[AZGrizFan]

That's an easily solved problem. Bring home all troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Germany, Italy, England, Spain, Korea & Japan....cut defense budget by 40%, and give every remaining solder/sailor/airman a 25% raise.

edit: And we don't even have 'miillions of soldiers and sailors".

While not all of these are soldiers and sailors....um.....straight from the Beauro of Labor Statistics website

The military provides training and work experience in these and many other fields for more than 2.4 million people. More than 1.4 million people serve in the active Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, and more than 1.0 million serve in their Reserve components and the Air and Army National Guard. (The Coast Guard, which also is discussed in this Handbook statement, is part of the Department of Homeland Security.)


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And for his assertion to be true, EVERY ONE OF THEM would have to be on welfare.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This is the shit you should be bitching about.

This too:



How bout this:



or this:



this:



and this:



Get your shit straight Jay.

So you want to bitch about the military providing jobs and purchasing equipment from private companies?

You want to bitch about success and penalize it so the poor wont feel so bad?

Halliburton......how can anyone possibly bitch about the high paying jobs and tax revenue these guys put into the system?

Wow.........just wow........KYjelly may have lost his title................

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Is this the best you have? "hater of the poor"!!! Is this fukking amateur hour??????

I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE POOR THAT ARE POOR FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEIR OWN ADDICTIONs, LAZINESS, STUPIDITY, LACK OF IMPULSE CONTROL, AND MULTIPLE BASTARD BIRTHS.

Their irresponsibility is not my mandate to support them.

Screw them, their generational dependency, and their lack of any accountability whatsoever.

Suck on that D1B.

THIS!

[clenz]

Is this the best you have? "hater of the poor"!!! Is this fukking amateur hour??????

I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE POOR THAT ARE POOR FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEIR OWN ADDICTIONs, LAZINESS, STUPIDITY, LACK OF IMPULSE CONTROL, AND MULTIPLE BASTARD BIRTHS.

Their irresponsibility is not my mandate to support them.

Screw them, their generational dependency, and their lack of any accountability whatsoever.

Suck on that D1B.

THIS!

I agree with that as well.

I'm willing to help those that are willing to help themselves. If they aren't willing to do that, then why should I?

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

[ODUsmitty]

Chad-

Despite your wearing of that pink tutu at the ODU/UNI bracketbuster game, you are a standup guy, despite what DJH says about you.

Are you able to make the game in Norfolk this year?

[DJH]

Chad-

Despite your wearing of that pink tutu at the ODU/UNI bracketbuster game, you are a standup guy, despite what DJH says about you.

Are you able to make the game in Norfolk this year?

[clenz]

Chad-

Despite your wearing of that pink tutu at the ODU/UNI bracketbuster game, you are a standup guy, despite what DJH says about you.

Are you able to make the game in Norfolk this year?

I like that tutu very much, thank you.

I'm still working on some plans. I'd love to be able to make it, but I have to see how a couple things shake out.

Also, good luck convincing anyone I'm not as douchey in person as I am here...although anyone who has actually met me seems to have a different tune after meeting me than before.