Fully Debatable Prestige Rankings - FCS

[Grizalltheway]

UHN gets fives on attendance and facilities?

So if that picture is a 5 out of 5, what is this?

I don't know, but it doesn't look very loud or cold.

[BigSkyBears]

--Unassuming FCS Prestige Rankings --

1. Appalachian State -- Won 3 straight FCS titles in a row and finished in the top 8 the last 3 years. A big win over Michigan put them on the national radar.

2. Montana -- Synonymous with the FCS, and the most widely reputed Big Sky team. Even the mascot "Grizzlies" are well recognized.

3. Delaware -- A hot spot for FBS transfers and quasi-celebs VP Biden & Joe Flacco. A team that can typically compete for a national title.

4. Georgia Southern -- Nobody has won more national titles at the FCS level, and the Eagles still compete in the playoffs.

5. Northern Iowa -- Probably the most consistently good team in a competitive league.
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6. UMass
7. James Madison
8. Eastern Washington (the turf is a big deal and last year's national champs)
9. Grambling (awesome bands & a great SWAC team)
10. Penn (top Ivy team)

Man, NDSU is everything FCS. Without NDSU there would be no FCS nor would there be any college football. Get it right!!!

[houndawg]

UNI has won 0 national titles.. I don't care how many MVFC titles they have won, they haven't won the big one ever.

YSU is top 10, but even them should not be top 5 in my eyes.

YSU carries the taint of Tressel.

[houndawg]

you need to identify the criteria used or it is going to be all over the place. Time frame (if it is history of FCS/I-AA then you aren't close)for example EWU wouldn't make the list. and GSU sits firmly on the top. James Madison might be in the top ten but I doubt it.

If it is the last five years, then things change dramatically and Grambling goes out.

I apply the lawyer's pornography test. You know it when you see it. Just kidding.

In all seriousness, I think it would tough to develop criteria for prestige. I tried to imply that with my cheerleader quip.

Obviously, we are going to value the number ofFCS championships, playoff appearances (if they participate), institution's media attention, FBS upsets, and so forth. Special significance ought to be placed upon success in those areas in the past 3-5 years, etc.. Beyond this, and doing surveys, I don't see myself being much more help in this area.

Under these criteria, SIU over the past 5 years is easily comparable to UNI.

[Cap'n Cat]

Youngstown State is reputable, but I have this distasteful feeling that it's sort of "all-in-the-past". It's a very "what have you done lately for me" culture.

To me, YSU is like the Notre Dame of the FCS. I wouldn't put the Irish in my top 10 either. No offense of course.

Given the Tressel thing and their long downturn, YSU's championships are about as relevant as Idaho State's.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

[grizzaholic]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

[clenz]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

Three years....FWIW.

Why do NDSU fans have trouble counting? No smack intended towards you TTBF though.

[Grizalltheway]

Heh. They said taint.

[mtjack]

YSU carries the taint of Tressel.

Great, now I'm going to have nightmares of Jim Tressel's... ahem... taint dressed up in a little maroon sweater visit.

[mtjack]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

Heh. Has bisonville.com come after you with torches and pitchforks yet for such blasphemy?

Chance I will be in Fargo in October for an NDSU game. Haven't seen Bison football since the mid 90s. Any suggestions, TwinTownBisonFan? Send a note here on CS if so. I lived in Fargo for a bit and spent childhood summers visiting. Regardless of what my wanker relatives in Montana say, Fargo (and most of North Dakota) is a good place to live with more reasonable people than not. NDSU's collective fanbase need not be stained by a few horse's rears behind the keyboard. Follow the Twins daily on the net here. This season has been painful.

[State Line Liquors]

The stench of Tressel's taint will forever dangle heavily around the black hole known as Youngstown.

[DJH]

YSU sucks. They were only good under Tressell and he cheated the entire time. Fuck them.

[AZGrizFan]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

Heh. Has bisonville.com come after you with torches and pitchforks yet for such blasphemy?

Chance I will be in Fargo in October for an NDSU game. Haven't seen Bison football since the mid 90s. Any suggestions, TwinTownBisonFan? Send a note here on CS if so. I lived in Fargo for a bit and spent childhood summers visiting. Regardless of what my wanker relatives in Montana say, Fargo (and most of North Dakota) is a good place to live with more reasonable people than not. NDSU's collective fanbase need not be stained by a few horse's rears behind the keyboard. Follow the Twins daily on the net here. This season has been painful.

Sure, if you like snow that blows sideways, 20 foot drifts, 9 months of winter and 3 months of flooding.

[DJH]

Heh. Has bisonville.com come after you with torches and pitchforks yet for such blasphemy?

Chance I will be in Fargo in October for an NDSU game. Haven't seen Bison football since the mid 90s. Any suggestions, TwinTownBisonFan? Send a note here on CS if so. I lived in Fargo for a bit and spent childhood summers visiting. Regardless of what my wanker relatives in Montana say, Fargo (and most of North Dakota) is a good place to live with more reasonable people than not. NDSU's collective fanbase need not be stained by a few horse's rears behind the keyboard. Follow the Twins daily on the net here. This season has been painful.

Sure, if you like snow that blows sideways, 20 foot drifts, 9 months of winter and 3 months of flooding.

Yeah, but Fargo is close to Minnesota which has lakes and beaches and babes! And it is only 4 hours from the Twin Cities!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!

[AZGrizFan]

Sure, if you like snow that blows sideways, 20 foot drifts, 9 months of winter and 3 months of flooding.

Yeah, but Fargo is close to Minnesota which has lakes and beaches and babes! And it is only 4 hours from the Twin Cities!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!

[JBB]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

Heh. Has bisonville.com come after you with torches and pitchforks yet for such blasphemy?

Chance I will be in Fargo in October for an NDSU game. Haven't seen Bison football since the mid 90s. Any suggestions, TwinTownBisonFan? Send a note here on CS if so. I lived in Fargo for a bit and spent childhood summers visiting. Regardless of what my wanker relatives in Montana say, Fargo (and most of North Dakota) is a good place to live with more reasonable people than not. NDSU's collective fanbase need not be stained by a few horse's rears behind the keyboard. Follow the Twins daily on the net here. This season has been painful.

Ill be sure to miss that game mtjack. Cant think of a more disagreable horses rear than you!

[JBB]

--Unassuming FCS Prestige Rankings --

1. Appalachian State -- Won 3 straight FCS titles in a row and finished in the top 8 the last 3 years. A big win over Michigan put them on the national radar
2. Montana -- Synonymous with the FCS, and the most widely reputed Big Sky team. Even the mascot "Grizzlies" are well recognized.

3. Delaware -- A hot spot for FBS transfers and quasi-celebs VP Biden & Joe Flacco. A team that can typically compete for a national title.

4. Georgia Southern -- Nobody has won more national titles at the FCS level, and the Eagles still compete in the playoffs.

5. Northern Iowa -- Probably the most consistently good team in a competitive league.
____________

6. UMass
7. James Madison
8. Eastern Washington (the turf is a big deal and last year's national champs)
9. Grambling (awesome bands & a great SWAC team)
10. Penn (top Ivy team)

Man, NDSU is everything FCS. Without NDSU there would be no FCS nor would there be any college football. Get it right!!!

[JBB]

As an NDSU fan I cannot say this more plainly... we are NOT a "prestigious" or "elite" FCS program. We've only been playoff eligible for 2 years for chrissakes...

We WERE a prestigious D-II program, no doubt... but around here were the new kid in town (with a bunch of mouthy fans whose team really hasn't backed up the smack)

Look at how the bitches love that comment by the most submissive bison fan in the country.

[Ivytalk]

--Unassuming FCS Prestige Rankings --

1. Appalachian State -- Won 3 straight FCS titles in a row and finished in the top 8 the last 3 years. A big win over Michigan put them on the national radar.

2. Montana -- Synonymous with the FCS, and the most widely reputed Big Sky team. Even the mascot "Grizzlies" are well recognized.

3. Delaware -- A hot spot for FBS transfers and quasi-celebs VP Biden & Joe Flacco. A team that can typically compete for a national title.

4. Georgia Southern -- Nobody has won more national titles at the FCS level, and the Eagles still compete in the playoffs.

5. Northern Iowa -- Probably the most consistently good team in a competitive league.
____________

6. UMass
7. James Madison
8. Eastern Washington (the turf is a big deal and last year's national champs)
9. Grambling (awesome bands & a great SWAC team)
10. Penn (top Ivy team)

you need to identify the criteria used or it is going to be all over the place. Time frame (if it is history of FCS/I-AA then you aren't close)for example EWU wouldn't make the list. and GSU sits firmly on the top. James Madison might be in the top ten but I doubt it.

If it is the last five years, then things change dramatically and Grambling goes out.

PS Northern Iowa should not be in the top ten period. sorry, great program but there are many more than have been much more succesful. My alma mater would be one of them

Exactly right, OL FU. Over time, Yale, Harvard, Princeton and Dartmouth all have a claim to be "top Ivy team." Penn has been very solid recently, but only Harvard has won at least 7 games every year since 2001.

[mtjack]

Ill be sure to miss that game mtjack. Cant think of a more disagreable horses rear than you!

Heh. You hurt my one feeling, JBB. Have I bantered with you before here/on other boards and earned some ire? I've been on bisonville and remember positive interactions. Maybe you think I was referring to you in particular in my previous comment? Maybe you're making broad generalizations towards all Big Sky fans? Maybe you're just f'ing with me? Maybe you're just cranky? It doesn't matter.

Hope to catch the NDSU game while in Fargo and look forward to chatting with Bison fans.

[clenz]

Ill be sure to miss that game mtjack. Cant think of a more disagreable horses rear than you!

Heh. You hurt my one feeling, JBB. Have I bantered with you before here/on other boards and earned some ire? I've been on bisonville and remember positive interactions. Maybe you think I was referring to you in particular in my previous comment? Maybe you're making broad generalizations towards all Big Sky fans? Maybe you're just f'ing with me? Maybe you're just cranky? It doesn't matter.
Hope to catch the NDSU game while in Fargo and look forward to chatting with Bison fans.

In my interactions with SU fans about 90% are great. However, that other 10% are past help and ruin the other 90.

[Silenoz]

Man, NDSU is everything FCS. Without NDSU there would be no FCS nor would there be any college football. Get it right!!!

Seriously dude. Seriously. You are so far beyond gone it is amazing

[OL FU]

In my interactions with SU fans about 90% are great. However, that other 10% are past help and ruin the other 90.

that is my experience with all schools. Fortunately at our get togethers we never have a school that has more than 10 fans show up.