The failure of Al Gore

[Ivytalk]

If Gore had been elected, we would have two more liberal Supreme Court justices trying to legislate from the bench.

Thank you, W

As opposed to Conservative judges legislating from the bench. Given the choice, I'll take the liberals.

Poor deluded douchebag!

[Baldy]

If Gore had been elected, we would have two more liberal Supreme Court justices trying to legislate from the bench.

Thank you, W

As opposed to Conservative judges legislating from the bench. Given the choice, I'll take the liberals.

Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Jay, etc. would disagree.

[BlueHen86]

As opposed to Conservative judges legislating from the bench. Given the choice, I'll take the liberals.

Poor deluded douchebag!

Pathetic that you feel the need to name call. I was trying to have an intelligent discussion, if you disagree tell me why. Ambushing me by name calling is just lame. I though Harvard was an Ivy league school, I didn't realize there was also daycare with that name.

[BlueHen86]

As opposed to Conservative judges legislating from the bench. Given the choice, I'll take the liberals.

Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Jay, etc. would disagree.

I will keep that in mind if I ever travel back in time 200+ years. I keep forgetting that our founding fathers always agreed unanimously on everything.

[kalm]

Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Jay, etc. would disagree.

I will keep that in mind if I ever travel back in time 200+ years. I keep forgetting that our founding fathers always agreed unanimously on everything.

Something tells me Jefferson wouldn't have sided with the judicial activists that pushed through Citizens United or the amount of power they currently possess.

[Baldy]

Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Jay, etc. would disagree.

I will keep that in mind if I ever travel back in time 200+ years. I keep forgetting that our founding fathers always agreed unanimously on everything.

I'm pretty sure they would unanimously agree that the Constitution isn't a "living document" like liberals believe.

[Baldy]

I will keep that in mind if I ever travel back in time 200+ years. I keep forgetting that our founding fathers always agreed unanimously on everything.

Something tells me Jefferson wouldn't have sided with the judicial activists that pushed through Citizens United or the amount of power they currently possess.

I believe Jefferson would also agree that there's nothing 'activist' about protecting free speech rights.

BUT, I'd be willing to bet he was doing flips in his grave when the Kelo decision was handed down.

[kalm]

Something tells me Jefferson wouldn't have sided with the judicial activists that pushed through Citizens United or the amount of power they currently possess.

I believe Jefferson would also agree that there's nothing 'activist' about protecting free speech rights.

BUT, I'd be willing to bet he was doing flips in his grave when the Kelo decision was handed down.

The colonists were anti corporation and anti monopoly - see East India Tea Company. Probably why they didn't include the rights of corporations in the constitution. But I agree on Kelo.

[Ivytalk]

Poor deluded douchebag!

Pathetic that you feel the need to name call. I was trying to have an intelligent discussion, if you disagree tell me why. Ambushing me by name calling is just lame. I though Harvard was an Ivy league school, I didn't realize there was also daycare with that name.

I sincerely apologize, 86 -- I was over the top. I believe "judicial legislation" is wrong no matter how you cut it. Whether it's liberal judges trying to enact gay marriage laws or environmental protection policy, or conservative courts trying to implement some other agenda. Both sides are guilty of the practice when it comes to assessing the legality of public religious symbolism. I just see it as more of a cudgel of the left these days. Do you disagree?

[∞∞∞]

I love environmentalism, but Gore is a lunatic. His understanding of sustainable development is suspect at best, and he unfortunately radicalizes it (and climate change) in a way that turns off a very massive portion of the population.

And of course, he seems to be a hypocrite as well.

[blueballs]

My favorite memory of Gore was sucking his wife's tongue on stage at the Democratic National Convention...

[BlueHen86]

Pathetic that you feel the need to name call. I was trying to have an intelligent discussion, if you disagree tell me why. Ambushing me by name calling is just lame. I though Harvard was an Ivy league school, I didn't realize there was also daycare with that name.

I sincerely apologize, 86 -- I was over the top. I believe "judicial legislation" is wrong no matter how you cut it. Whether it's liberal judges trying to enact gay marriage laws or environmental protection policy, or conservative courts trying to implement some other agenda. Both sides are guilty of the practice when it comes to assessing the legality of public religious symbolism. I just see it as more of a cudgel of the left these days. Do you disagree?

No apology necessary, I meant to put a after my post but forgot.

I agree 100% regarding "judicial legislation", unfortunately I think we are stuck with it. My choice was the lesser of two evils, at least as I see it.

We'd probably be better off letting ex-Presidents select our supreme court justices. The current process is so political we can't help but end up justices that have political leanings. Ex-Presidents are the closest things to "statesmen" that we have, they'd probably do a better job of filling the court.

[Ivytalk]

I sincerely apologize, 86 -- I was over the top. I believe "judicial legislation" is wrong no matter how you cut it. Whether it's liberal judges trying to enact gay marriage laws or environmental protection policy, or conservative courts trying to implement some other agenda. Both sides are guilty of the practice when it comes to assessing the legality of public religious symbolism. I just see it as more of a cudgel of the left these days. Do you disagree?

No apology necessary, I meant to put a after my post but forgot.

I agree 100% regarding "judicial legislation", unfortunately I think we are stuck with it. My choice was the lesser of two evils, at least as I see it.

We'd probably be better off letting ex-Presidents select our supreme court justices. The current process is so political we can't help but end up justices that have political leanings. Ex-Presidents are the closest things to "statesmen" that we have, they'd probably do a better job of filling the court.

Interesting thought, 86. Politics has infected appointments at the Court of Appeals level as well as SCOTUS. Would we be better off if Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes picked the SCOTUS? Clinton is the only lawyer in the group, and he was disbarred. Was Wiliam Howard Taft the only president who served on the Supreme Court after his term as POTUS was up? Obama will be so young when he leaves office that he'll probably aspire to that as well. Now THAT would be the mother of all confirmation fights!

[BlueHen86]

No apology necessary, I meant to put a after my post but forgot.

I agree 100% regarding "judicial legislation", unfortunately I think we are stuck with it. My choice was the lesser of two evils, at least as I see it.

We'd probably be better off letting ex-Presidents select our supreme court justices. The current process is so political we can't help but end up justices that have political leanings. Ex-Presidents are the closest things to "statesmen" that we have, they'd probably do a better job of filling the court.

Interesting thought, 86. Politics has infected appointments at the Court of Appeals level as well as SCOTUS. Would we be better off if Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes picked the SCOTUS? Clinton is the only lawyer in the group, and he was disbarred. Was Wiliam Howard Taft the only president who served on the Supreme Court after his term as POTUS was up? Obama will be so young when he leaves office that he'll probably aspire to that as well. Now THAT would be the mother of all confirmation fights!

I think Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes would be more impartial than our current selection process. They don't owe anybody anything and might actually put the country first. I think too many politicians put party and career first.

Obama was not ready to be President, I think he is pretty smart, but he needed more political seasoning before running. If he does seek to sit on the Supreme Court he will likely be too inexperienced for that too, it will be a heck of confirmation fight that will likely be decided by how popular of an ex-President he is.

[Ivytalk]

Interesting thought, 86. Politics has infected appointments at the Court of Appeals level as well as SCOTUS. Would we be better off if Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes picked the SCOTUS? Clinton is the only lawyer in the group, and he was disbarred. Was Wiliam Howard Taft the only president who served on the Supreme Court after his term as POTUS was up? Obama will be so young when he leaves office that he'll probably aspire to that as well. Now THAT would be the mother of all confirmation fights!

I think Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes would be more impartial than our current selection process. They don't owe anybody anything and might actually put the country first. I think too many politicians put party and career first.

Obama was not ready to be President, I think he is pretty smart, but he needed more political seasoning before running. If he does seek to sit on the Supreme Court he will likely be too inexperienced for that too, it will be a heck of confirmation fight that will likely be decided by how popular of an ex-President he is.

In any event, I guess the subject of this thread will never be on the SCOTUS, because he never finished law school.

[BlueHen86]

I think Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes would be more impartial than our current selection process. They don't owe anybody anything and might actually put the country first. I think too many politicians put party and career first.

Obama was not ready to be President, I think he is pretty smart, but he needed more political seasoning before running. If he does seek to sit on the Supreme Court he will likely be too inexperienced for that too, it will be a heck of confirmation fight that will likely be decided by how popular of an ex-President he is.

In any event, I guess the subject of this thread will never be on the SCOTUS, because he never finished law school.

Way to get back on topic.

I think Gore wants to be a statesman, but that won't happen. He bit off more than he could chew regarding the environment. He should have championed clean air, clean water and global warming research instead of championing questionable conclusions from incomplete data.

[houndawg]

Interesting thought, 86. Politics has infected appointments at the Court of Appeals level as well as SCOTUS. Would we be better off if Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes picked the SCOTUS? Clinton is the only lawyer in the group, and he was disbarred. Was Wiliam Howard Taft the only president who served on the Supreme Court after his term as POTUS was up? Obama will be so young when he leaves office that he'll probably aspire to that as well. Now THAT would be the mother of all confirmation fights!

I think Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes would be more impartial than our current selection process. They don't owe anybody anything and might actually put the country first. I think too many politicians put party and career first.

Obama was not ready to be President, I think he is pretty smart, but he needed more political seasoning before running. If he does seek to sit on the Supreme Court he will likely be too inexperienced for that too, it will be a heck of confirmation fight that will likely be decided by how popular of an ex-President he is.

True, maybe, you run when the time and circumstances are favorable for you. The guy has to be politically astute to have run, and won, when the whole country would have bet their homes that Hillary would be the nominee. Between that decision and the killing of bin Laden, I see somebody who isn't afraid to roll the dice.

[BlueHen86]

I think Clinton, Carter and the two Bushes would be more impartial than our current selection process. They don't owe anybody anything and might actually put the country first. I think too many politicians put party and career first.

Obama was not ready to be President, I think he is pretty smart, but he needed more political seasoning before running. If he does seek to sit on the Supreme Court he will likely be too inexperienced for that too, it will be a heck of confirmation fight that will likely be decided by how popular of an ex-President he is.

True, maybe, you run when the time and circumstances are favorable for you. The guy has to be politically astute to have run, and won, when the whole country would have bet their homes that Hillary would be the nominee. Between that decision and the killing of bin Laden, I see somebody who isn't afraid to roll the dice.

No argument from me there. He picked the right time to run, but that was more a function of the weak field he was up against as opposed to his political seasoning.

[D1B]

Al Gore never had a chance, very few people take him seriously.

The environment is a worthwhile cause, but Gore is too polarizing to be an effective spokesman.

Gore was villified by energy companies and big coal/oil. You idiots/domestic terrorists bought it, we got W and here we are now, completely fucked, at war and in a major economic depression.

Thanks conk fucks.

[AZGrizFan]

Al Gore never had a chance, very few people take him seriously.

The environment is a worthwhile cause, but Gore is too polarizing to be an effective spokesman.

Gore was villified by energy companies and big coal/oil. You idiots/domestic terrorists bought it, we got W and here we are now, completely fucked, at war and in a major economic depression.

Thanks conk fucks.

27 months and counting....still at war under your president, with a freshly minted war in Libya to boot. Exactly how long does it take to remove troops from Iraqistan?

[D1B]

Gore was villified by energy companies and big coal/oil. You idiots/domestic terrorists bought it, we got W and here we are now, completely fucked, at war and in a major economic depression.

Thanks conk fucks.

27 months and counting....still at war under your president, with a freshly minted war in Libya to boot. Exactly how long does it take to remove troops from Iraqistan?

Gonna take years to clean up your boys' mess, Z. Nice job.

[ASUMountaineer]

27 months and counting....still at war under your president, with a freshly minted war in Libya to boot. Exactly how long does it take to remove troops from Iraqistan?

Gonna take years to clean up your boys' mess, Z. Nice job.

Is the "human rights" campaign in Lybia part of cleaning up W's mess? I would like to see him be more brash and get out of Afghanistan completely. I'm still waiting on him to close Gitmo...which I supported. As of now, I'd say he's added to W's mess. Perhaps he'll turn it around by 2012.

[Rob Iola]

27 months and counting....still at war under your president, with a freshly minted war in Libya to boot. Exactly how long does it take to remove troops from Iraqistan?

Gonna take years to clean up your boys' mess, Z. Nice job.

Yup - us Conks got us into Iraq and Afghanistan. Caused some wingnut named Qaddafi to cancel his nucular program...

So why again is Obama bombing Libya?

[D1B]

Gonna take years to clean up your boys' mess, Z. Nice job.

Is the "human rights" campaign in Lybia part of cleaning up W's mess? I would like to see him be more brash and get out of Afghanistan completely. I'm still waiting on him to close Gitmo...which I supported. As of now, I'd say he's added to W's mess. Perhaps he'll turn it around by 2012.

Come on. Libya is NOTHING compared to mess W created, illegally, in Iraq and legally but fucked, in Afghanistan.

Hey, Obama aint perfect, but we would be in much better shape right now if W was never elected. You know this is the truth. All of you fucks know this so so STFU and move on.

[bulldog10jw]

Come on. Libya is NOTHING compared to mess W created, illegally, in Iraq and legally but ****, in Afghanistan.

Hey, Obama aint perfect, but we would be in much better shape right now if W was never elected. You know this is the truth. All of you **** know this so so STFU and move on.

I have to admit, you are one entertaining SOB.