Huntsman Enters Race

Post by **kalm** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:16 am

Seems like a reasonable dude. Says he admires Obama and it's about who has the better ideas, not who's the better American. Is it a smart tactic to try and beat Obama at his own game by rising above the fray or will it come off as weak, boring, and not enough red meat to get past the primary?

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:13 am

I saw the GMA segment this morning. Huntsman handled George Snuffleuppagus well, and he came across as a grownup. The GOP can't win by demonizing Obama personally, but it can win by attacking his policies -- or what passes as policies. Should be an interesting race!

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:16 am

kalm wrote:Seems like a reasonable dude. Says he admires Obama and it's about who has the better ideas, not who's the better American. Is it a smart tactic to try and beat Obama at his own game by rising above the fray or will it come off as weak, boring, and not enough red meat to get past the primary?

It's a tactic that might win the general, but won't get him past the primaries.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:20 am

Who??

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:52 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:Seems like a reasonable dude. Says he admires Obama and it's about who has the better ideas, not who's the better American. Is it a smart tactic to try and beat Obama at his own game by rising above the fray or will it come off as weak, boring, and not enough red meat to get past the primary?
It's a tactic that might win the general, but won't get him past the primaries.

Once the wack job honks start pinning him down on abortion it will be all over. It would be interesting to have a President who can kowtow to our economic masters in their own language.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:54 am

houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's a tactic that might win the general, but won't get him past the primaries.

Once the wack job honks start pinning him down on abortion it will be all over. It would be interesting to have a President who can kowtow to our economic masters in their own language.

Also the queers.

griz37 · Post by **griz37** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:20 pm

He is Mormon therefore he has no chance, even amongst Republicans.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:22 pm

Yeah, when it comes to minorities that it's acceptable to bash, I guess Mormons are the new fundamentalist Christians for the MSM.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:29 pm

Ivytalk wrote:Yeah, when it comes to minorities that it's acceptable to bash, I guess Mormons are the new fundamentalist Christians for the MSM.

They are the most misunderstood Christian religion out there, and considering their mass, that's saying something.

Now when the time comes they are more widely understood.........

Post by **kalm** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:31 pm

Ivytalk wrote:Yeah, when it comes to minorities that it's acceptable to bash, I guess Mormons are the new fundamentalist Christians for the MSM.

No. By comparison Mormons seem to remain pretty silent about the goofier aspects of their faith. And it's not neccessary to bash fundies of any stripe, all you have to do is tape them opening their mouths.

But just out of curiosity, give us some examples of the MSM "bashing" either.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:33 pm

kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Yeah, when it comes to minorities that it's acceptable to bash, I guess Mormons are the new fundamentalist Christians for the MSM.
No. By comparison Mormons seem to remain pretty silent about the goofier aspects of their faith. And it's not neccessary to bash fundies of any stripe, all you have to do is tape them opening their mouths.

But just out of curiosity, give us some examples of the MSM "bashing" either.

Virtually every story about Romney. Virtually every story about the Tea Party. Must I go on?

They sure aren't up on a pedestal with the gays and the Muslims as "minorities du jour" for the MSM.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:40 pm

"We need to step out of the shadows and demand our time in the sun."

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:43 pm

Wedgebuster wrote:

"We need to step out of the shadows and demand our time in the sun."

Yeah, wise guy. And didn't he get drilled by a .45 at the end of the series?

His oldest daughter was hot, though.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:44 pm

Damn, that reminds me, I really do love my new .45 !!

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:46 pm

Wedgebuster wrote:Damn, that reminds me, I really do love my new .45 !!

The Bighorn Blaster?

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:49 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Damn, that reminds me, I really do love my new .45 !!
The Bighorn Blaster?

Aw that Croatian built XD compact that alphie talked me into. Actually got it sighted in this last weekend with the help of my leatherman and a rock. Shoots like a dream and makes a huge hole.

Hate to see anybody take one in the bean with a slug like that, 'specially somebody like good ol' Bill Hendrickson.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:54 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
No. By comparison Mormons seem to remain pretty silent about the goofier aspects of their faith. And it's not neccessary to bash fundies of any stripe, all you have to do is tape them opening their mouths.

But just out of curiosity, give us some examples of the MSM "bashing" either.
Virtually every story about Romney. Virtually every story about the Tea Party. Must I go on?

They sure aren't up on a pedestal with the gays and the Muslims as "minorities du jour" for the MSM.

Great examples!

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:27 pm

griz37 wrote:He is Mormon therefore he has no chance, even amongst Republicans.

If this country can elect a muslim, it sure as hell can elect a mormon.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:31 pm

Wedgebuster wrote:Damn, that reminds me, I really do love my new .45 !!

I still need to get me one of them...

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm

kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Virtually every story about Romney. Virtually every story about the Tea Party. Must I go on?

They sure aren't up on a pedestal with the gays and the Muslims as "minorities du jour" for the MSM.
Great examples!

EPIC FAIL. OK, smart guy, give me ONE exmaple of ANY positive story the MSM has done about Mormons or fundamentalist Christians. I'm waiting.

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:57 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Great examples!
EPIC FAIL. OK, smart guy, give me ONE exmaple of ANY positive story the MSM has done about Mormons or fundamentalist Christians. I'm waiting.

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/06/05/mormons-rock.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:58 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Great examples!
EPIC FAIL. OK, smart guy, give me ONE exmaple of ANY positive story the MSM has done about Mormons or fundamentalist Christians. I'm waiting.

Of course, I could be a smart ass and ask you to name one positive thing they have done to warrant a positive story...

Post by **grizzaholic** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:01 pm

What a thread fail. I this was going to be about hunting. Wedge tried to save it but it still sucks.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:08 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: EPIC FAIL. OK, smart guy, give me ONE exmaple of ANY positive story the MSM has done about Mormons or fundamentalist Christians. I'm waiting.

Of course, I could be a smart ass and ask you to name one positive thing they have done to warrant a positive story...

AND NOBODY LIKES A SMARTASS!

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:11 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: EPIC FAIL. OK, smart guy, give me ONE exmaple of ANY positive story the MSM has done about Mormons or fundamentalist Christians. I'm waiting.

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/06/05/mormons-rock.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Read the article all the way to the bottom. First few paragraphs have typically hip "positive" things to say about Mormons and the musical, yadda yadda. the rest of the article disses them pretty good. Newsweek deserves to FAIL.

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