Police dressed as protestors with rocks caught! SPP Protest

[grizzaholic]

SHIT. He sucked us all in again. Starting out talking about some Canadian riot bullshit and he brought it back to his favorite topic, 9-11 conspiracy. FUCK

[FormerPokeCenter]

Nice try, but you haven't even provided any evidence to the contrary.

What you're doing is called a "straw man" argument, I have provided names and numbers, you have provided nothing.

Nothing?

I provided a smoking gun.

The SSDI doesnt list those dead individuals who left survivors who are being paid death benefits under Social Security.

End of Story.

How many 9/11 victims left survivors who'd qualify for benefits????


This isn't a nothing question, it's central to a critical analysis of your posistion. That you didnt' ask yourself this speaks volumes....

[expandspanos]

SHOW ME THE VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM THE PENTAGON.

I SHOULDNT HAVE TO PROVE A PLANE HIT OR DIDN'T- THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED THE EVIDENCE 10 YEARS AGO.

Hey ES, the govt. could show you a video in 3D/HD with THX surround in a movie theater of a plane hitting the Pentagon and you still wouldn't believe them. You could have been standing in the parking lot watching the plane come in for the crash and you wouldn't believe it.

Do you honestly believe what is coming out of your mouth? Do your friends also? Really?

Dr. Bob Bowman, a retired Lieutenant Colonel, and Cal. Tech. Alumnus, speaks out for 9/11 truth:
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[Grizalltheway]

So, why won't they release any of the video evidence they confiscated?

They show us people falling out of the WTC before collapse after all.

No video showing a plane hitting the Pentagon after 10 years, even though plenty was confiscated is proof.

If the government actually had footage which shows what they told us happened. they would have provided it by now.

They won't show the video, because it doesn't show what we've been told.

Actually, there is a video that's been released....from a Pentagon security camera....which was set at one frame every few seconds, just like millions of security cameras out there....At the time, the Pentagon would have been using digital technology, but I'd be willing to bet it was still tape that was recording mutliple camera angles through a MUX unit (multiplexer) into one recorder. To save tape and cut costs, they set the record rate to 1 frame every few seconds instead of 32 frames per second.

The video they release shows the nose of the plane to the extreme right of the field of view, then the tail entering the pentagon in the next frame to the extreme right....



And, FYI, the people you saw "Fallling" out of the WTC actually jumped rather than succumb to the smoke and flames....

Aluminum planes didn't bring down three steel buildings. Hundreds of thousands of gallons of jet fuel and combustible materials in the WTC significantly weakened the buildings, which then collapsed and subsquently pancaked....debris from the towers damaged a third building and subsequently weakened a third building, which utimately collapsed later....

Nice try though....

I love how he just glosses over the fact that the second tower didn't collapse until how ever many hours after the plane hit it. But, yeah, it was just a super-slow motion controlled demolition.

[expandspanos]

GrizzAll you don't know Fuckalll.

You can initiate a demolition whenever you want... you just wait to press the button.

[Grizalltheway]

GrizzAll you don't know Fuckall.

You can initiate a demolition whenever you want.

DUMBSHIT: There are VIDEOS of both planes hitting the towers, the second one was caught on LIVE television, and those of us who weren't busy fingering our assholes saw it happen. JFC.

[grizzaholic]

GrizzAll you don't know Fuckalll.

You can initiate a demolition whenever you want... you just wait to press the button.

So, having a plane hit a building filling it with fire one is supposed to just HOPE that none of the detonator cords will be harmed? GOTCHA

[expandspanos]

Have you watched September Clues..?

That's why the aluminum airplanes sliced into the buildings with no resistance, and left no evidence on the exterior, or falling to the street below.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Dr. Bob Bowman, a retired Lieutenant Colonel, and Cal. Tech. Alumnus, speaks out for 9/11 truth:
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That guy? You mean when he wasn't carping about Reagan's Star Wars program and Bush's Missile Defense Shield? Or when he wasn't running for the Presidential Nomination against Pat Buchanan for the top spot on Buchanan's Bat shit crazy party??? That Bob Bowman?

Gee, he's seeking the 2004 Presidential Nod to a group of nutty Libertarians and YOU happen to be surprised that he calls for an inquiry into 9/11?

Really? That's the best you've got?

[FormerPokeCenter]

Have you watched September Clues..?

That's why the aluminum airplanes sliced into the buildings with no resistance, and left no evidence on the exterior, or falling to the street below.

No evidence on the exterior???????





Really?????

What else ya got?

Oh yeah....airplane parts.....gotcha


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[Grizalltheway]

Have you watched September Clues..?

That's why the aluminum airplanes sliced into the buildings with no resistance, and left no evidence on the exterior, or falling to the street below.

No evidence on the exterior???????





Really?????

What else ya got?

Oh yeah....airplane parts.....gotcha


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Pictures are shopped, airplane parts were planted, etc etc. Haven't you figured this out yet, Poke???

[expandspanos]

Have you watched September Clues..?

That's why the aluminum airplanes sliced into the buildings with no resistance, and left no evidence on the exterior, or falling to the street below.

No evidence on the exterior???????





Really?????

What else ya got?

Oh yeah....airplane parts.....gotcha


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Planted evidence.. There was scaffolding all around it, it somehow didn't hit as it fell.. Don't think so.

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[ASUG8]

Sounds like you'd like a new Investigation into 9/11..

Flight 11: of the 92 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only
20 are listed in the SSDI (22%)
Of these 20 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
Judy Larocque
Laurie Neira
Candace Lee Williams
=======================================

Flight 77: of the 64 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only
14 are listed in the SSDI (22%)
Of these 64 people, only five on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
William Caswell
Eddie Dillard
Ian Gray
John Sammartino
Leonard Taylor
=======================================

Flight 175: of the 65 people who are listed as dying on this flight,
only 18 are listed in the SSDI (28%)
Of these 65 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
Michael C. Tarrou
Gloria Debarrera
Timothy Ward
=======================================

Flight 93: of the 45 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only
6 are listed in the SSDI (13%)
Of these 45 people, none are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
No one
=======================================

Have you noticed anything strange yet? Of the passengers and crew of
Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93, only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the
SSDI.

Remember human greed? Of the 266 people that we were told died on these
jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation. Can you believe that
not a single relative from Flight 93 applied for compensation? I can't.
Were all the relatives of the victims so rich that they weren't eligible
to receive compensation? No, that's not it.

So where is everybody? Since the families haven't applied for compensation, and no survivors have turned up, the families must all be in cahoots with the guvmint, too.

I've already asked twice here dawg and can't seem to find out where all the bodies are. For 266 folks to disappear and ALL their friends and family members to have been paid or otherwise encouraged to keep their mouths shut seems very unlikely.

[Grizalltheway]

Right on fucking cue!!

[expandspanos]

So where is everybody? Since the families haven't applied for compensation, and no survivors have turned up, the families must all be in cahoots with the guvmint, too.

I've already asked twice here dawg and can't seem to find out where all the bodies are. For 266 folks to disappear and ALL their friends and family members to have been paid or otherwise encouraged to keep their mouths shut seems very unlikely.

Again, the burden of proof lies on you, it should be very easy for you to prove me wrong. So far you haven't provided any numbers at all.

How many people do you believe were on the flights?

How much time have YOU spent investigating 9/11?

[FormerPokeCenter]

No evidence on the exterior???????





Really?????

What else ya got?

Oh yeah....airplane parts.....gotcha


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Planted evidence.. There was scaffolding all around it, it somehow didn't hit as it fell.. Don't think so.

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So you're saying that it fell straight down, and didn't, say, behave as a projectile, or bounce off anything else to get to that final resting place?

I don't know much about investigating accidents after having done it for the last 24 years, but, I can tell you that I often see pieces of debris that end up in the damndest places....And if one of them were to strike the WTC on or abouut the 90th floor, then behave as a projectile, strike the ground and skitter to stop somewhere, why it would strain credibility if it didn't strike what I thought it ought to strike....this is particularly true with odd shaped projectiles.....They should fly straight, damnit, be immune to centrifugal and other forces acting upon them and they should end up where conspiracy theorists think they should....

[grizzaholic]

[expandspanos]

Do you really think that someone who had the means to take down the towers wouldn't think about planting some evidence?

[expandspanos]

****. He sucked us all in again. Starting out talking about some Canadian riot bullshit and he brought it back to his favorite topic, 9-11 conspiracy. ****

I didn't bring it up, bandl did... guess you can't read.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Do you really think that someone who had the means to take down the towers wouldn't think about planting some evidence?

Do you really think that someone who...wait....nevermind.....Let me self-edit.


Do you really think?

[Grizalltheway]

Do you really think that someone who had the means to take down the towers wouldn't think about planting some evidence?

Do you really think no one would have noticed somebody planting a mostly destroyed jet engine in the middle of downtown Manhattan?

[expandspanos]

Do you really think that someone who had the means to take down the towers wouldn't think about planting some evidence?

Do you really think no one would have noticed somebody planting a mostly destroyed jet engine in the middle of downtown Manhattan?[/quote}

Well, FEMA was in South Manhattan on 9/10/01.. so that's kind of weird isn't it? Probably not to you.

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[grizzaholic]

****. He sucked us all in again. Starting out talking about some Canadian riot bullshit and he brought it back to his favorite topic, 9-11 conspiracy. ****

I didn't bring it up, bandl did... guess you can't read.

Now opie. Calm down. If you wouldn't have taken the bait this thread would still be talking about Canada and some riot police but it is now almost on page 4 because you wanted to talk anti-government and 9-11 shit. If it riles you up so much and just boils your blood, move to Chile.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Fema was in New Orleans on 8/28/2005 and Hurricane Katrina hit the following day. Clearly, they've developed some sort of weather weapon they were testing that day, right????

[ASUG8]

I've already asked twice here dawg and can't seem to find out where all the bodies are. For 266 folks to disappear and ALL their friends and family members to have been paid or otherwise encouraged to keep their mouths shut seems very unlikely.

Again, the burden of proof lies on you, it should be very easy for you to prove me wrong. So far you haven't provided any numbers at all.

How many people do you believe were on the flights?

How much time have YOU spent investigating 9/11?

I used your number of 266 although in hindsight with some of the other "research" you've done maybe even that is suspect. I can tell you that I was living in Greensboro NC at the time and a female flight attendant from there was on the Shanksville flight and never came home - when they interviewed her family and small children they all seemed pretty broken up about it, kind like you'd be if somebody close to you died in a plane crash. To my knowledge she's never showed up at their front door and yelled "Surprise!". Maybe she's had a need to be in a witness protection program and is living undercover in Belize. It's just little details like this that get in the way.

I haven't spent ANY time researching this because I don't think our government is smart enough, secretive enough, or competent enough to pull this off without a hitch so that 99.55% of the world was completely hoodwinked .*



* Statistic completely made up