The St. Francis Red Flash @ NDSU BISON*

[JBB]

This is the second installment on the upcoming NDSU BISON Football season and their epic run to the FCS National Championship.

This time the opponent hails from Pennsylvania, Loretto to be exact, and the NEC.


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9/10/2011
1 PM
Fargo, ND

Yep, the game is in Fargo at the Fabulous Fargo Dome!

As many of you may remember Georgia Southern was on tap to visit this, a truly storied FCS football stadium: The prestigious Fabulous Fargo Dome. Its a great stadium with a park-like tailgate area, a large imposing presence on the beautiful NDSU campus and a green field! Yes, The NDSU Football Conglomerate is all business. No marketing tricks here, no divergence from tradition to sustain "The Program".

The NDSU Football Conglomerate does not need "neat tricks" to sustain the success of "The Program". Time has proven the Conglomerate can field a competitive team year-in and year-out in the Small College, D2 and now FCS Divisions of NCAA football.

Unlike other D1 Universities in North Dakota, History will also reveal an "anytime any place" attitude toward scheduling with big wins over BCS/FBS teams as well as Big wins in the FCS playoffs and on the road. There isnt a mythical "moral victory" blemishing the BISON record either. "The Record" has made the NDSU BISON media darlings.

Georgia Southern is in the midst of a decade long rebuilding effort. It has seen them come back more often than a bad penny. The plan all along had been to get the BISON down there first, nobody can beat GSU at home right? Then, after a little more time to rebuild, travel to Fargo with a team that would be competitive.

The first half of that plan failed. The second half of the plan was a pipe dream. When reality set in they pulled out of the contract faster than you can say "The Bulldogs are back". To replace the big game they scheduled "intra-divisional", something we have discussed in other threads. Something we have all learned is bad for the FCS, the game in general and the reputation, playoff hopes and prestige of the FCS programs scheduling such contests.

With backs to the wall, guided by the "NDSU Scheduling Model", with contacts through-out the college football world, The NDSU Football Conglomerate got on the phone and struck a deal with St. Francis. Now THE RED FLASH are coming to town in a counter game for both teams!

That sets the stage for our discussion of NDSU BISON and Red Flash Football to follow!

[AZGrizFan]

Laffayette and St. Francis....now there's a juggernaut of a nonconference schedule to hang your hat on.

[JBB]

Dont forget they are both "counter games" in the FCS. Without that knowledge you may find yourself in an awkward situation from time-to-time.

[AZGrizFan]

Dont forget they are both "counter games" in the FCS. Without that knowledge you may find yourself in an awkward situation from time-to-time.

Sure thing, champ. And Western Oregon would probably smoke both of them.

[grizzaholic]

Dont forget they are both "counter games" in the FCS. Without that knowledge you may find yourself in an awkward situation from time-to-time.

Sure thing, champ. And Western Oregon would probably smoke both of them.

Don't you mean Carroll?

[JBB]

If anyone is an athletic participant and wants to play football for the Red Flash here is a facsimile of their recruiting questionnaire:

First Name*
Last Name*
DOB (mm/dd/yyyy)
Address*
City*
State*
Zip*
Home Phone
Cell Phone
Email*
Mother (Guardian)
Mother's Occupation
Employer
Father (Guardian)
Father's Occupation
Employer
Live With:*
Academics
HS*
HS City
HS Address
HS Zip
Grad Year*
Guidance Counselor
Counselor Phone
Class Rank
GPA*
SAT Reading
SAT Math
ACT Score
Clearinghouse ID
Intended Major
Athletic
Height*
Weight*
40 Time
Vertical Jump
Bench
Squat
Position*
Other Sports
Jersey #*
Head Coach's Name
Head Coaches Phone Number

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[JBB]

Here is a look at the Red Flash schedule and results from last year:

Sat., Sep 4 at Liberty L58 - 7
Sat., Sep 11 at Morehead State L31 - 21
Sat., Sep 18 Sacred Heart W41 - 0
Sat., Oct 2 Robert Morris L35 - 14
Sat., Oct 9 at Albany L48 - 0
Sat., Oct 16 Wagner L22 - 14
Sat., Oct 23 at Monmouth L19 - 7
Sat., Oct 30 at Cal Poly L41 - 33
Sat., Nov 6 Bryant L48 - 10
Sat., Nov 13 at Duquesne L41 - 17
Sat., Nov 20 at Central Connecticut 12:00 PM (are in the process of posting details)

Read more: St. Francis (PA) Red Flash Football schedule & game results - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... z1Oe0a0bDs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A common opponent with NDSU was Robert Morris. NDSU had a very good game with RM, competitive, well played and the officiating was superb! For those of you that are looking for an edge in prognosticating this game my tip is to pay close attention to the Robert Morris score. Just as with Lehigh, UNI and Lafayette, your deductive powers can draw similar conclusions about NDSU and St. Francis.

NDSU has played Cal Poly, Wagner and Central Connecticut in the past. All were on the Red Flash Schedule last year.

[CatBlitz22]

I will buy 10 of my favorite posters here a beer and a porno mag if no one responds to a JBB thread the rest of the month.

[JBB]

Porno mag? What century are you in?

[JBB]

Here is a look at The Red Flash schedule for this season:

9/3/2011 Wagner Staten Island, NY 1 PM Details
9/10/2011 North Dakota State Fargo, ND 1 PM Details
9/17/2011 Morehead State Loretto, PA 1 PM Details
9/24/2011 Duquesne Loretto, PA 1 PM Details
10/1/2011 Albany Loretto, PA 1 PM Details
10/8/2011 Robert Morris Moon Township, PA 1 PM Details
10/15/2011 Sacred Heart Fairfield, Conn. 1 PM Details
10/22/2011 Youngstown State Youngstown, Ohio 4 PM Details
10/29/2011 Central Connecticut State Loretto, PA 1 PM Details
11/5/2011 Monmouth Loretto, PA 1 PM Details
11/12/2011 Bryant Smithfield, RI 1 PM Details

Its nice to see the YSU Penguins have also stepped up to the challenge and scheduled the Red Flash. Good Move!

Lots of schools are stepping up!

[Grizalltheway]

Porno mag? What century are you in?

Says the guy posting pictures of Elvis and Nixon.

[JBB]

[houndawg]

This is the second installment on the upcoming NDSU BISON Football season and their epic run to the FCS National Championship.

This time the opponent hails from Pennsylvania, Loretto to be exact, and the NEC.


http://www.sfuathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

@



9/10/2011
1 PM
Fargo, ND

Yep, the game is in Fargo at the Fabulous Fargo Dome!

As many of you may remember Georgia Southern was on tap to visit this, a truly storied FCS football stadium: The prestigious Fabulous Fargo Dome. Its a great stadium with a park-like tailgate area, a large imposing presence on the beautiful NDSU campus and a green field! Yes, The NDSU Football Conglomerate is all business. No marketing tricks here, no divergence from tradition to sustain "The Program".

The NDSU Football Conglomerate does not need "neat tricks" to sustain the success of "The Program". Time has proven the Conglomerate can field a competitive team year-in and year-out in the Small College, D2 and now FCS Divisions of NCAA football.

Unlike other D1 Universities in North Dakota, History will also reveal an "anytime any place" attitude toward scheduling with big wins over BCS/FBS teams as well as Big wins in the FCS playoffs and on the road. There isnt a mythical "moral victory" blemishing the BISON record either. "The Record" has made the NDSU BISON media darlings.

Georgia Southern is in the midst of a decade long rebuilding effort. It has seen them come back more often than a bad penny. The plan all along had been to get the BISON down there first, nobody can beat GSU at home right? Then, after a little more time to rebuild, travel to Fargo with a team that would be competitive.

The first half of that plan failed. The second half of the plan was a pipe dream. When reality set in they pulled out of the contract faster than you can say "The Bulldogs are back". To replace the big game they scheduled "intra-divisional", something we have discussed in other threads. Something we have all learned is bad for the FCS, the game in general and the reputation, playoff hopes and prestige of the FCS programs scheduling such contests.

With backs to the wall, guided by the "NDSU Scheduling Model" and with contacts through-out the college football world, The NDSU Football Conglomerate got on the phone and struck a deal with St. Francis. Now THE RED FLASH are coming to town in a counter game for both teams!

That sets the stage for our discussion of NDSU BISON and Red Flash Football to follow!

[JBB]

[JBB]

These are the latest Red Flash recruits. The announcement was 3/31/11

Terrance Bourne
6-1, 290, OL/DL
Wilmington, Del./Alexis I. DuPont

Shane Morris
6-3, 265, OL/DL
Revloc, Pa./Central Cambria

Patrick Paul
5-10, 183, ATH
Port Charlotte, Fla./Port Charlotte (Valley Forge)

Andrew Redden
6-0, 200, LB/TE
Clearfield, Pa./Clearfield Area

Cody Reimers
6-0, 195, WR/DB
Wilson, N.Y./Wilson Central

Zachary Schmidt
5-11, 210, FB/DL
Mohnton, Pa./Governor Mifflin

Delrece Williams
5-11, 185, RB
Homestead, Pa./Steel Valley

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It looks to me they arent really concentrating on any position with this round. It must be best available athlete?

[JBB]

Hey guys, would you mind trying to stay on topic. Thanks in advance guys!

[CatBlitz22]

Your threads have topics?

[JBB]

The consensus for the BISON running backs now that Siger is gone is DJ McNorton will have an expanded role. He may even be our return man. Ojuri will be #2 with Lang seeing some action. Jones, the red shirt from Az will remain a RS unless there is injury.

Montana State was forced to honor the backside of the home/home with the return game scheduled for 2013. I wonder if GSU is going to come under pressure to make things right? Im not sure what the payout was for GSU, it was ridiculously low for MSU, I think I remember $10,000.

NDSU is not entering into many home/home deals. Both of the opening games this season, Lafayette and The Red Flash are single game contracts. UND could take a lesson from that.

St. Francis comes in as a 2-9 team. They do play a wide variety of opponents. I dont expect a huge blow-out, if the game should go that way. They have been tested by fire too many times, but with both YSU and NDSU on the schedule this season they will have their hands full.

[Catattack]

Once again your saying ndsu "forced" MSU to the return game. Once again your delusional.

[JBB]

I think NDSU put a lot of pressure on Montana State to "make good" on their commitment. Im not sure the buyout was ever paid? I havent heard of any talk about a guarantee being paid to MSU either. Im pretty sure this is the backside of a home/home that Montana State tried to get out of. Maybe they just changed their minds, were uncertain of what they wanted or decided they were "hasty"? Or, maybe NDSU applied the pressure?

MSU will be in Fargo in 2013. That will probably be the biggest OOC game of the year for them.

I dont have a link but I believe GSU paid their buyout to NDSU. It was much larger than the MSU buyout of the NDSU game but still not enough.

I think St. Francis is picking up something like $125,000 for this game?

[Catattack]

O.K. It went from "forced" to "put a lot of pressure on."

Here is how it went down. MSU returned a call by ndsu and said that they had an open date in 2013 for the return game and would be happy to play it then. If not, the chump change check for $10,000 is in the mail.

[tampajag]

where'd you get that picture of my girl? that's my hand in the pic

[JBB]

O.K. It went from "forced" to "put a lot of pressure on."

Here is how it went down. MSU returned a call by ndsu and said that they had an open date in 2013 for the return game and would be happy to play it then. If not, the chump change check for $10,000 is in the mail.

Like I said that phone call was not their idea. It didnt just happen and the "take-it-or-leave-it" you are referring to was a formality only. MSU was already schooled in what the real deal was. Its subtle so you might not get it, you seem rather abrupt. But it was force "none-the-less".

[JBB]

It would be nice to get the opinion on the St. Francis game from some of the NDSU elite posters, Endzone QB and TjBison come to mind immediately (Both are incomparable in their wit and insight, its truly a blessing we have those superior minds in our fan base).

With those exquisite personalities and outstanding ambassadors of NDSU football chiming in, their precious input might shed some light on the GSU buyout, the St. Francis guarantee and how it all worked out financially for NDSU.

I know both those fellows are lurkers here, they comment on BV about NDSU threads on the "tard boards", as they call it, all the time. They may just bless us with their presence.

Excellent post!

I do know that NDSU has strong season ticket sales, around 10,000 and growing, so the guarantee is never at risk. My best guess: a home game provides NDSU with at least $250,000 in profits. Thats what drives the payout for NDSU and its FBS guarantees. GSU may have done NDSU a big financial favor by backing out if the buy out was big enough to cover travel costs to their place and a little extra for the hassel?

[uofmman1122]

I find it funny how you need to quote people from other boards just to keep your threads going.