Question: Release the pics or not?

[TwinTownBisonFan]

who weren't voting for Obama anyway...

Well, we need something to offset the 13 million vote lead Obama gets with the black block.

20% of the American population (60 million) were birthers last week... you've got plenty.

[AZGrizFan]

Well, we need something to offset the 13 million vote lead Obama gets with the black block.

20% of the American population (60 million) were birthers last week... you've got plenty.

Well, 100% of the African American poplulation was African American....thankfully only 13 million of them actually vote.

So the question is, how many of those 60 million vote?

[Skjellyfetti]

66.1 of eligible whites turned out in 2008
65.2 of eligible blacks turned out in 2008

not much difference

[TwinTownBisonFan]

20% of the American population (60 million) were birthers last week... you've got plenty.

Well, 100% of the African American poplulation was African American....thankfully only 13 million of them actually vote.

So the question is, how many of those 60 million vote?

who has two thumbs and doesn't give one single fuck? this guy.

[AZGrizFan]

66.1 of eligible whites turned out in 2008
65.2 of eligible blacks turned out in 2008

not much difference

Not what I asked, and a totally irrelevant statistic.

roughly 10 millon blacks voted in 2004. over 13 million voted in 2008. 96% voted for Obama. So, having a black candidate brought out an additional 3+ million black voters who probably didn't know shit, and would vote for a black tree stump given the chance.

How many of those 60 million (allegely) birthers actually vote (allegedly)?

[AZGrizFan]

Well, 100% of the African American poplulation was African American....thankfully only 13 million of them actually vote.

So the question is, how many of those 60 million vote?

who has two thumbs and doesn't give one single fuck? this guy.

Of course you don't give a fuck. Your guy has a 13 million vote head start simply because he's black and our country is too politically correct to admit he's an empty suit.

[Skjellyfetti]

roughly 10 millon blacks voted in 2004. over 13 million voted in 2008. 96% voted for Obama. So, having a black candidate brought out an additional 3+ million black voters who probably didn't know shit, and would vote for a black tree stump given the chance.

Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They don't just vote for black candidates. They voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry, too. It was a calculated strategy by Republicans in the 1960's... so don't bitch about it backfiring now.

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[AZGrizFan]

roughly 10 millon blacks voted in 2004. over 13 million voted in 2008. 96% voted for Obama. So, having a black candidate brought out an additional 3+ million black voters who probably didn't know shit, and would vote for a black tree stump given the chance.

Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They don't just vote for black candidates. They voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry, too. It was a calculated strategy by Republicans in the 1960's... so don't bitch about it backfiring now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

a) blacks went from 16% for Bush in '04 to 4% for McCain in '08, with an additional 3+ million blacks voting. Yeah...that had nothing to do with the color of Obama's skin.

My only point is there has to be SOMETHING to offset this headstart Obama has....maybe the birthers are the answer.

edit: and BTW, I'm pulling those statistics from memory and they may be off +/- .5% and +/- 1/2 a million voters...but the premise remains the same.

[89Hen]

Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They don't just vote for black candidates. They voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry, too.

But not Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Last I heard she was a Democrat too.

[Skjellyfetti]

My only point is there has to be SOMETHING to offset this headstart Obama has....maybe the birthers are the answer.

Nominating a quality, middle-of-the-road candidate would help. Unfortunately, none are available... and the birthers will throw a temper tantrum if that were to happen.

[AZGrizFan]

Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They don't just vote for black candidates. They voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry, too.

But not Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Last I heard she was a Democrat too.

Which is funny considering the size of her ass.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They don't just vote for black candidates. They voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry, too. It was a calculated strategy by Republicans in the 1960's... so don't bitch about it backfiring now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

a) blacks went from 16% for Bush in '04 to 4% for McCain in '08, with an additional 3+ million blacks voting. Yeah...that had nothing to do with the color of Obama's skin.

My only point is there has to be SOMETHING to offset this headstart Obama has....maybe the birthers are the answer.

edit: and BTW, I'm pulling those statistics from memory and they may be off +/- .5% and +/- 1/2 a million voters...but the premise remains the same.

gee, imagine that... 3 million black voters turning out because for the first time in 235 years somebody who wasn't white was on the ballot... shocking really. just like millions of Catholics voted for Kennedy... I don't love identity politics, but EVERYBODY does it. for chrissakes, what was Palin, but a shameless attempt at the same damn thing? (for that matter, what was Ferraro?)

[Appaholic]

But not Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Last I heard she was a Democrat too.

Which is funny considering the size of her ass.

Fokker! You owe me a new computer screen!

[AZGrizFan]

a) blacks went from 16% for Bush in '04 to 4% for McCain in '08, with an additional 3+ million blacks voting. Yeah...that had nothing to do with the color of Obama's skin.

My only point is there has to be SOMETHING to offset this headstart Obama has....maybe the birthers are the answer.

edit: and BTW, I'm pulling those statistics from memory and they may be off +/- .5% and +/- 1/2 a million voters...but the premise remains the same.

gee, imagine that... 3 million black voters turning out because for the first time in 235 years somebody who wasn't white was on the ballot... shocking really. just like millions of Catholics voted for Kennedy... I don't love identity politics, but EVERYBODY does it. for chrissakes, what was Palin, but a shameless attempt at the same damn thing? (for that matter, what was Ferraro?)

Yeah, but the're WHITE. Big difference.

[AZGrizFan]

Which is funny considering the size of her ass.

Fokker! You owe me a new computer screen!

I do what I can, sir.

[Skjellyfetti]

But not Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Last I heard she was a Democrat too.

More complicated because you'd have to look at each states' exit polls. And, you'd have to divide it up by sex.

Hillary won the female black vote in many states.

[AZGrizFan]

a) blacks went from 16% for Bush in '04 to 4% for McCain in '08, with an additional 3+ million blacks voting. Yeah...that had nothing to do with the color of Obama's skin.

My only point is there has to be SOMETHING to offset this headstart Obama has....maybe the birthers are the answer.

edit: and BTW, I'm pulling those statistics from memory and they may be off +/- .5% and +/- 1/2 a million voters...but the premise remains the same.

gee, imagine that... 3 million black voters turning out because for the first time in 235 years somebody who wasn't white was on the ballot... shocking really. just like millions of Catholics voted for Kennedy... I don't love identity politics, but EVERYBODY does it. for chrissakes, what was Palin, but a shameless attempt at the same damn thing? (for that matter, what was Ferraro?)

Well then if you have no problem with 3+ million additional first time idiot voters coming out and voting for somebody purely becuase of the color of his skin then you should have no problem with idiot birthers flocking to the polls to vote AGAINST someone because they question his eligibility.

[citdog]

a) blacks went from 16% for Bush in '04 to 4% for McCain in '08, with an additional 3+ million blacks voting. Yeah...that had nothing to do with the color of Obama's skin.

My only point is there has to be SOMETHING to offset this headstart Obama has....maybe the birthers are the answer.

edit: and BTW, I'm pulling those statistics from memory and they may be off +/- .5% and +/- 1/2 a million voters...but the premise remains the same.

gee, imagine that... 3 million black voters turning out because for the first time in 235 years somebody who wasn't white was on the ballot... shocking really. just like millions of Catholics voted for Kennedy... I don't love identity politics, but EVERYBODY does it. for chrissakes, what was Palin, but a shameless attempt at the same damn thing? (for that matter, what was Ferraro?)

Notice that with an election 500+ days away the dems are already starting to begin their nuzzling up to the African American darkys. This is normally about when it starts after they ignore them for 3 previous years.

[Wedgebuster]

Good ol' Z, getting fired up over Hillary again.

Note he makes reference to her ass being large, this is coming from old bubble butt loving Z mind you!

[Appaholic]

gee, imagine that... 3 million black voters turning out because for the first time in 235 years somebody who wasn't white was on the ballot... shocking really. just like millions of Catholics voted for Kennedy... I don't love identity politics, but EVERYBODY does it. for chrissakes, what was Palin, but a shameless attempt at the same damn thing? (for that matter, what was Ferraro?)

Notice that with an election 500+ days away the dems are already starting to begin their nuzzling up to the African American darkys. This is normally about when it starts after they ignore them for 3 previous years.

No doubt....also any day now, they'll start talking of their plans to federally mandate all states must recognize same-sex marriage beginning...oh, I don't know....let's say Jan 2013...

[TwinTownBisonFan]

gee, imagine that... 3 million black voters turning out because for the first time in 235 years somebody who wasn't white was on the ballot... shocking really. just like millions of Catholics voted for Kennedy... I don't love identity politics, but EVERYBODY does it. for chrissakes, what was Palin, but a shameless attempt at the same damn thing? (for that matter, what was Ferraro?)

Well then if you have no problem with 3+ million additional first time idiot voters coming out and voting for somebody purely becuase of the color of his skin then you should have no problem with idiot birthers flocking to the polls to vote AGAINST someone because they question his eligibility.

universal suffrage is what it is... i fully support it.

[89Hen]

EVERYBODY does it

The first Dem to admit it.

[CitadelGrad]

Obama has just announced they will NOT be releasing photos.



So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.

Why not just avoid all that drama?

you're right about the conspiracy theorists... but, they've already fired up their machines... you can't reason with their level of stupid, nor should you.

At some point the photos should be released - but that point is years away.

It won't take years though. The pics are already making their way around DC, including Congress. Well, I guess we know Congress never leaks anything. Never mind.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

you're right about the conspiracy theorists... but, they've already fired up their machines... you can't reason with their level of stupid, nor should you.

At some point the photos should be released - but that point is years away.

It won't take years though. The pics are already making their way around DC, including Congress. Well, I guess we know Congress never leaks anything. Never mind.

i don't doubt it.

but frankly i can see how having them leak would be advantageous. the photos get out, but we aren't seen as parading them around... win-win.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

EVERYBODY does it

The first Dem to admit it.

hardly. identity politics is older than the republic... hell, Andy Jackson was the essence of identity politics.