Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Has anyone else seen these?:
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP – WASHINGTON D.C. –
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.
The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio‘s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !
Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. … Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Deletethis, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.
If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP – WASHINGTON D.C. –
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.
The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio‘s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !
Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. … Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Deletethis, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.
If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Obama is a horrible President, the worst since Carter, but this is stupid.
If true it would be all over the media. NOTHING like this would reach the Supreme Court "quietly"
If true it would be all over the media. NOTHING like this would reach the Supreme Court "quietly"
Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Im not so sure about that. The main stream left wing press is protecting this president. There is his "real estate" deal in Chicago, completely criminal but unreported. There are the constitutional issues and the states rights issues that he is violating, in several cases against court order. There are the associations with unsavory elements from the far left including Bill Ayers, Rev. Write and other socialist/communists in his close advisory staff. A few have been outed, but no big deal has been made and none will be.
The socialist left as represented in the media and the major media outlets have closed ranks around this man. The stories are out there but you dont see them splashed across the front pages as you did when they destroyed President Bush for 8 years, often with untrue reports that were later quietly retracted. They are doing the same with Gov Palin as well.
Everything this man campaigned on was a lie. He is everything he says he isnt and does everything he says he wont. There is no reason to believe he is honest on this issue, especially with evidence mounting and his refusal to simply show the birth certificate.
Az. is now considering a law that will require all candidates for president to show a genuine birth certificate. By that time he will probably have one, real or counterfeit who knows, but his reluctance to produce it is certainly confusing and leads to the assumption that if one does appear it wont be real.
The socialist left as represented in the media and the major media outlets have closed ranks around this man. The stories are out there but you dont see them splashed across the front pages as you did when they destroyed President Bush for 8 years, often with untrue reports that were later quietly retracted. They are doing the same with Gov Palin as well.
Everything this man campaigned on was a lie. He is everything he says he isnt and does everything he says he wont. There is no reason to believe he is honest on this issue, especially with evidence mounting and his refusal to simply show the birth certificate.
Az. is now considering a law that will require all candidates for president to show a genuine birth certificate. By that time he will probably have one, real or counterfeit who knows, but his reluctance to produce it is certainly confusing and leads to the assumption that if one does appear it wont be real.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
I did go to the Supreme Court site and saw nothing about this. I did see that they refuse to rule on the constitutionality of Obamas health care law by pushing it out beyond 2012 but are going to listen to claims about the estate of Anna Nicole Smith?
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If this were even remotely true Hillary Clinton would be President today. The Clintons are smart and know how to fight dirty politically and they certainly would not have let something like this get by them. As stated earlier Obama is a terrible President but sadly he is in point of fact one of us.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
bulldog10jw wrote:Obama is a horrible President, the worst since Carter, but this is stupid.
If true it would be all over the media. NOTHING like this would reach the Supreme Court "quietly"
Put JBB in the expandspanos "tinfoil hat club".
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Have you ever heard of websites like snopes or urbanlegends JBB? You should check them out....
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
JBB wrote:Im not so sure about that. The main stream left wing press is protecting this president. There is his "real estate" deal in Chicago, completely criminal but unreported. There are the constitutional issues and the states rights issues that he is violating, in several cases against court order. There are the associations with unsavory elements from the far left including Bill Ayers, Rev. Write and other socialist/communists in his close advisory staff. A few have been outed, but no big deal has been made and none will be.
The socialist left as represented in the media and the major media outlets have closed ranks around this man. The stories are out there but you dont see them splashed across the front pages as you did when they destroyed President Bush for 8 years, often with untrue reports that were later quietly retracted. They are doing the same with Gov Palin as well.
Everything this man campaigned on was a lie. He is everything he says he isnt and does everything he says he wont. There is no reason to believe he is honest on this issue, especially with evidence mounting and his refusal to simply show the birth certificate.
Az. is now considering a law that will require all candidates for president to show a genuine birth certificate. By that time he will probably have one, real or counterfeit who knows, but his reluctance to produce it is certainly confusing and leads to the assumption that if one does appear it wont be real.
If W can be Prez with a Dishonorable Discharge, I couldn't care less where Obama was born.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
They just got the interwebs in NoDak.HI54UNI wrote:Have you ever heard of websites like snopes or urbanlegends JBB? You should check them out....
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
and I thought you were only a retard when it came to football...
you've finally embraced something dumber than "ndsu is going to the big 12" (but it's only slightly dumber...)
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
There's no question that Obama is a pretty sketchy character and has made considerable efforts to obfuscate much of his past, but matters of this nature do not escape mainstream media coverage. It's the Supreme Court. Every time Ruth Bader Ginsburg queefs, it is news.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
A court order to release transcripts? On what grounds? This seems like an invasion of privacy and not covered by the freedom of information act; if not, we will be havin' fun at the exppense of many other famous people.
Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
I've posted before that he probably wants to keep the Birth Certificate private because it shows the Dad is Frank Marshall Davis the mentor he talks about in his book who some think was the photographer who took the naked pictures on Obama's mom that are on the net.
Just too embarrassing having a known Commie as his real Dad
That's what I think...
But what's up with Obama using a Connecticut Social Security number?
Obama is the real man of mystery
Just too embarrassing having a known Commie as his real Dad
That's what I think...
But what's up with Obama using a Connecticut Social Security number?
Obama is the real man of mystery
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scary there are milions that believe this moronic shit.
He HAS released his birth certificate.
Fucking idiots. You guys are too fucking stupid to be able to vote.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
there was no travel ban by the US Government to Pakistan in 1981... there was a travel advisory issued in August, but no ban.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Bronco wrote:I've posted before that he probably wants to keep the Birth Certificate private because it shows the Dad is Frank Marshall Davis the mentor he talks about in his book who some think was the photographer who took the naked pictures on Obama's mom that are on the net.
Just too embarrassing having a known Commie as his real Dad
That's what I think...
But what's up with Obama using a Connecticut Social Security number?
Obama is the real man of mystery
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
What few socialist left remain in this country have as many issues with Obama as the booger eating right that believe these type of chain mails. They also have no power and certainly not enough to control the media. 
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It’s a shame that Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin a doctor and 18 year veteran didn’t realize that Obama had released his birth certificate when he refused to ship out for his second tour in Afghanistan.
Wonder why during his court martial that nobody told him that Obama had already released it. Sounds like you guys have seen it…that is very strange. Or did he want to see his signed long form…the one that Hawaii Gov Ambercrombie said he couldn’t find.
I think he gets out of Leavenworth next month after serving 6 months…shame that he’ll lose all his retirement
And what about the Social Security number BHO has from Connecticut?
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Wonder why during his court martial that nobody told him that Obama had already released it. Sounds like you guys have seen it…that is very strange. Or did he want to see his signed long form…the one that Hawaii Gov Ambercrombie said he couldn’t find.
I think he gets out of Leavenworth next month after serving 6 months…shame that he’ll lose all his retirement
And what about the Social Security number BHO has from Connecticut?
anyone?
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Nope. What was issued and has been released is a certificate of live birth. That isn't the same as the long form birth certificate.dbackjon wrote:![]()
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scary there are milions that believe this moronic shit.
He HAS released his birth certificate.
Fucking idiots. You guys are too fucking stupid to be able to vote.
Even if you want to argue about what form would verify his status as a US citizen, you can't argue about his SS#. It is a Connecticut number and Obama has never lived in Connecticut and was not born there.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
On the original post
Supreme Court won't hear Obama citizenship case
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Supreme Court won't hear Obama citizenship case
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
Saw this on the Connecticut Social Security number
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
First of all, i think this whole issue is ridiculous.
Second, my friend's home burned down a few years back and lost his original VA birth certificate in the process. When we were recently discussing this whole birther thing, he got curious and asked his mother if he could see his birth certificate. It ended up that his new one said "Certificate of Live Birth." His parents were both born in South Korea, so according to birthers, can he never become president because he doesn't have the original birth certificate and the state will only provide him with a "Certificate of Live Birth?" Just wondering.
Second, my friend's home burned down a few years back and lost his original VA birth certificate in the process. When we were recently discussing this whole birther thing, he got curious and asked his mother if he could see his birth certificate. It ended up that his new one said "Certificate of Live Birth." His parents were both born in South Korea, so according to birthers, can he never become president because he doesn't have the original birth certificate and the state will only provide him with a "Certificate of Live Birth?" Just wondering.
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
I love how it doesn't prove how Obama is under the name Barry Soetorro
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Re: Evidence Mounts: Obama not a citizen
My experience with military docs and dentists over in Iraq leads me to not have a lot of sympathy for this guy. If I was playing the odds, I'd say he was just looking for a convenient excuse.Bronco wrote:It’s a shame that Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin a doctor and 18 year veteran didn’t realize that Obama had released his birth certificate when he refused to ship out for his second tour in Afghanistan.
Wonder why during his court martial that nobody told him that Obama had already released it. Sounds like you guys have seen it…that is very strange. Or did he want to see his signed long form…the one that Hawaii Gov Ambercrombie said he couldn’t find.
I think he gets out of Leavenworth next month after serving 6 months…shame that he’ll lose all his retirement
And what about the Social Security number BHO has from Connecticut?
anyone?
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I can remember sitting in a briefing at Fort Bliss back in 2004 prior to flying over. There were a bunch of Army truck drivers (help me out Army guys... is that 49 Bravos?) and then there was a group of Navy and Air Force doctors sitting beside me. The truck drivers were all sitting directly in front of us, right where they could hear this Navy O-6 pissing and bitching about how this deployment was going to hurt his practice. The real kicker was that the military shortened the deployments for professional jobs like doctors. I think this guy was going for something like 4 months. 4 MONTHS! Those soldiers right in front of him were not only going for what would wind up being more than a year, but they were going to be shot at and blown up while this a$$hole was going to be sitting pretty in the IZ or some other well protected FOB and would never even SEE outside the wire.
To make things even more infuriating, this jacka$$ essentially had his med school bills mostly paid off by the Navy, and he's moaning about having to actually go do some service. Those truck drivers, all being E-2s up to E-4s obviously couldn't say anything to the guy, but a buddy of mine sitting with us piped up and told the guy to shut the fvck up until he gets out of the meeting and then he could piss and moan about not being able to visit the country club for a few months all he wanted. It was funny as hell because this guy glared over at Mike thinking he was going to see some military guy of a lower rank, and it turned out to be a civilian cop. There were about 15 of us glaring back at him and he didn't say another word.
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