"Christian" Dad Whips Kids Over Changed Channel

[Chizzang]

I was just thinking to myself yesterday...
"Self I wish there was another religion thread on CS.com because things are getting boring"





Prayers Answered: Thanks you guys

[D1B]

Hey, I don't have resort to lies and christian whackjob websites. Still waiting for the quote, Ding Dong.

What quote.

Baldy made reference to the Communist Manifesto, and its discussion of how the establishment of atheism was essential to the establishment of communism (the "how to achieve communism section"). You gave him a dunce cap.

You are aware that Baldy was referencing the Communist Manifesto?

You are aware that Marx wrote that Communist Manifesto?

Try to wiggle out all you want ...

Uh, not really Joe. Nice scumbag move though. Baldy said athesim was a "founding principle" of communism. I disagree. Any student of Marx knows that atheism is a small part of communism and the "founding principles" are those dealing with labor and capital - class struggle.

It may be a founding principle in your websites Joe, but if memory serves atheism (simply non belief in god) holds a minor, not founding position in this political and econominc philosophy.

Here are what I perceive to be founding requirements on How to Achieve Communism:

1.Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4.Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
The implementation of these policies would, the authors believed, be a precursor to the stateless and classless society.

[D1B]

Joe, you need to get your shit together and quit massively editing previous posts. Again, another scumbag move to pull the wool over other's eyes who aint following this in real time.

Every fucking time I go back, you have significantly added to or edited your previous posts. Knock it off fucker.

Just add another post.

[JoltinJoe]

Joe, you need to get your **** together and quit massively editing previous posts. Again, another scumbag move to pull the wool over other's eyes who aint following this in real time.

Every **** time I go back, you have significantly added to or edited your previous posts. Knock it off ****.

Just add another post.

Bullshit. I've got things to do other than educate you. When I get interrupted, I save and then add if I come back and nothing else has been said.

[citdog]

Interesting....

Are you actually claiming that Nazi Germany was a "Christian" nation, and that Hitler exterminated 6,000,000 Jews in the name of Christianity?

Too bad you weren't around back during the mid 1940's, the prosecutors at the Nuremberg Trials sure could have used your expertise.

Are you actully claiming that 1500 years of anti-semitism had nothing to do with the extermination of millions of jews in Nazi Germany?

As much as I hate it I believe that D1B has you here. The words of Martin Luther are about as anti-Jew as any spoken in the history of the world.

[JoltinJoe]

Are you actully claiming that 1500 years of anti-semitism had nothing to do with the extermination of millions of jews in Nazi Germany?

As much as I hate it I believe that D1B has you here. The words of Martin Luther are about as anti-Jew as any spoken in the history of the world.

This is true. Luther's writings were extensively used by the Nazi propaganda machine.

[D1B]

As much as I hate it I believe that D1B has you here. The words of Martin Luther are about as anti-Jew as any spoken in the history of the world.

This is true. Luther's writings were extensively used by the Nazi propaganda machine.

And the results quietly approved by the catholic church.

[JoltinJoe]

This is true. Luther's writings were extensively used by the Nazi propaganda machine.

And the results quietly approved by the catholic church.

[D1B]

Joe, you need to get your **** together and quit massively editing previous posts. Again, another scumbag move to pull the wool over other's eyes who aint following this in real time.

Every **** time I go back, you have significantly added to or edited your previous posts. Knock it off ****.

Just add another post.

Bullshit. I've got things to do other than educate you. When I get interrupted, I save and then add if I come back and nothing else has been said.

Uh, you're posting, not saving, then editing.

[D1B]

And the results quietly approved by the catholic church.

6 million jews killed right outside the church's windows, in the most catholic and christian of nations. National Socialism's birthplace was Rome.

Your church didn't do enough and don't argue with me on this asshole, YOUR FUCKING POPE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR IT.

[JoltinJoe]

6 million jews killed right outside the church's windows, in the most catholic and christian of nations. National Socialism's birthplace was Rome.

Your church didn't do enough and don't argue with me on this *******, YOUR **** POPE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR IT.

See, more BS. The pope never apologized for Catholic complicity in the Holocaust. In fact, JPII supported the canonization of Pius XII, as does Benedict XVI.

And what about all the Catholic victims of the Holocaust?

Stop re-writing history.

[D1B]

Are you actully claiming that 1500 years of anti-semitism had nothing to do with the extermination of millions of jews in Nazi Germany?

As much as I hate it I believe that D1B has you here. The words of Martin Luther are about as anti-Jew as any spoken in the history of the world.

Fuck you Clitdog coward. I'm fighting the fight you should be in on. The catholics have been fucking your people over for 15 centuries. No wonder 6 million willingly walked into the ovens with pussies like you around.

Yeah Luther was an asshole, but the fucking catholics are primarily responsible for the antisemitism and villification of jews in europe.

And Joe, don't even argue this with me, YOUR POPE ALREADY AP0LOGIZED FOR THIS SHIT.

[D1B]

6 million jews killed right outside the church's windows, in the most catholic and christian of nations. National Socialism's birthplace was Rome.

Your church didn't do enough and don't argue with me on this *******, YOUR **** POPE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR IT.

See, more BS. The pope never apologized for Catholic complicity in the Holocaust. In fact, JPII supported the canonization of Pius XII, as does Benedict XVI.

And what about all the Catholic victims of the Holocaust?

Stop re-writing history.

Joe, what did the pope apologize for?

[citdog]

When Benedict was 'crowned', or whatever the Church of Rome calls it one would think that there would have been SOME sort of checklist......perhaps a little like this one....

1. Is he a Catholic
2. Was he ever a Nazi

if yes to both........FIND SOMEBODY ELSE!!!

[Cap'n Cat]

Baldy and Joe = Owned.

[Baldy]

Baldy and Joe = Owned.

[D1B]

Baldy and Joe = Owned.

Baldy, you don't understand the essence of this thread. The kids were whipped and beaten because of their father's christianity. You, unfortunately, think the jews and victims of communism died or were killed because of atheism (heavens not because of the disastrous farm collectivization programs or historical antisemitism). That's just plain stupid, but you know that.

[JoltinJoe]

Baldy and Joe = Owned.

That the two of you strut around claiming victory, when all of the Communist philosophers advocated state atheism, and every Communist government sought to impose state atheism, is remarkable.

Atheism/humanism is a moral philosophy and people kill because of their moral philosophy, not because of their economics. Seriously, this is why you guys represent 1.6% of the population. The vast majority of people understand this. Your moral philosophy is dangerous. We are living in a post-atheist world.

Arguing with you guys is like arguing against someone 100 years ago. Didn't you pay attention to the 20th century history? Your trojan-horse beliefs have been discarded. You're a dying breed. Another generation or two, you guys will be gone.

[D1B]

Hey, I don't have resort to lies and christian whackjob websites. Still waiting for the quote, Ding Dong.

What quote.

Baldy made reference to the Communist Manifesto, and its discussion of how the establishment of atheism was essential to the establishment of communism (the "how to achieve communism section"). You gave him a dunce cap.

You are aware that Baldy was referencing the Communist Manifesto?

You are aware that Marx wrote that Communist Manifesto?

Try to wiggle out all you want ...

You have no grasp of this stuff at all. Communism is an economic system, not a moral system. Atheism/"humanism" is a moral system. Communists perceived atheism as essential to the creation of the communist state.

The Communists leaders embraced atheism/humanism because of its precept that the common good was more important than the rights of the individual. By embracing this moral system, it allowed them to eradicate political opposition (which included those who embraced enlightenment moral systems and the religious) -- because the collective good (the state) was more important than any individual.

The people who "starved" in Stalin's Russia were his political foes ... sent to harsh labor camps, and then deprived of food on the pretext that there were famines. Stalin killed because of his moral system, not because of his economics.

Great, now you're combining Atheism with Humanism!

Nice backpeddal, Dodger Joe! I anihilated you in that thread when I challenged you to describe the philosophical and moral systeim of Atheism. You of course disappeared. Now you combine it with Humanism! Atheism is not a moral sytem. Busted.

Yes, Humanism is a moral system, and your self serving (lie) definition above is complete rubbish.

Okay, Communism is a political and economic system. Yes, many of stalin's victims were political foes, more were just ordinary people living in the Leninist/Stalinist utopian nightmare. Remember, religion kills and communism is a religion.

I see you conveniently leave out the series of russian and chinese famines that killed millions (an estimated 5million in the 1929 Russian famine alone). Yeah, they died cuz of athesim and not farm collectivization.





Joltin and Baldy Joe

[JoltinJoe]

What quote.

Baldy made reference to the Communist Manifesto, and its discussion of how the establishment of atheism was essential to the establishment of communism (the "how to achieve communism section"). You gave him a dunce cap.

You are aware that Baldy was referencing the Communist Manifesto?

You are aware that Marx wrote that Communist Manifesto?

Try to wiggle out all you want ...

You have no grasp of this stuff at all. Communism is an economic system, not a moral system. Atheism/"humanism" is a moral system. Communists perceived atheism as essential to the creation of the communist state.

The Communists leaders embraced atheism/humanism because of its precept that the common good was more important than the rights of the individual. By embracing this moral system, it allowed them to eradicate political opposition (which included those who embraced enlightenment moral systems and the religious) -- because the collective good (the state) was more important than any individual.

The people who "starved" in Stalin's Russia were his political foes ... sent to harsh labor camps, and then deprived of food on the pretext that there were famines. Stalin killed because of his moral system, not because of his economics.

Great, now you're combining Atheism with Humanism!

Nice backpeddal, Dodger Joe! I anihilated you in that thread when I challenged you to describe the philosophical and moral systeim of Atheism. You of course disappeared. Now you combine it with Humanism! Atheism is not a moral sytem. Busted.

Yes, Humanism is a moral system, and your self serving (lie) definition above is complete rubbish.

Okay, Communism is a political and economic system. Yes, many of stalin's victims were political foes, more were just ordinary people living in the Leninist/Stalinist utopian nightmare. Remember, religion kills and communism is a religion.

I see you conveniently leave out the series of russian and chinese famines that killed millions (an estimated 5million in the 1929 Russian famine alone). Yeah, they died cuz of athesim and not farm collectivization.





Joltin and Baldy Joe

Seriously, you are an idiot. I really mean that, general studies boy.

[D1B]

Baldy and Joe = Owned.

That the two of you strut around claiming victory, when all of the Communist philosophers advocated state atheism, and every Communist government sought to impose state atheism, is remarkable.

Atheism/humanism is a moral philosophy and people kill because of their moral philosophy, not because of their economics. Seriously, this is why you guys represent 1.6% of the population. The vast majority of people understand this. Your moral philosophy is dangerous. We are living in a post-atheist world.

Arguing with you guys is like arguing against someone 100 years ago. Didn't you pay attention to the 20th century history? Your trojan-horse beliefs have been discarded. You're a dying breed. Another generation or two, you guys will be gone.

Jesus, you really are insane. Post atheist world? When was it ever atheist?

Again, your backpeddal is breathtaking and I hope everyone caught this. I backed you into a corner not too long ago by forcing you to come up with moral and philosophical system of "Atheism", and just like every similar request, you disappear. Now you come back with the atheism/humanism cocktail!

Priceless! As a humuanist, I have no problem with religion, as long as it's personal and stays out of public affairs. The humanism I've studied is quite tolerant of religion, and ironically, more tolerant of religion than some religions, including yours.

Hey, Joe, throw around the 1.6% number all you want but the truth is your religion is dying. You and your church are an embarrassment to humanity and people are finally starting to realize it. People are leaving your church by the millions each year. No wants to be a priest, nuns are about dead, churches are empty, archdioceses are going bankrupt because they allowed children to be abused and raped for decades and people are just plain sick of arrogant fucks like you who think they know everything and think theirs is the chosen church.

And I'll be here, morning noon and night, to shine the bright light of truth on your despicable cult. Count on it.

[D1B]

Great, now you're combining Atheism with Humanism!

Nice backpeddal, Dodger Joe! I anihilated you in that thread when I challenged you to describe the philosophical and moral systeim of Atheism. You of course disappeared. Now you combine it with Humanism! Atheism is not a moral sytem. Busted.

Yes, Humanism is a moral system, and your self serving (lie) definition above is complete rubbish.

Okay, Communism is a political and economic system. Yes, many of stalin's victims were political foes, more were just ordinary people living in the Leninist/Stalinist utopian nightmare. Remember, religion kills and communism is a religion.

I see you conveniently leave out the series of russian and chinese famines that killed millions (an estimated 5million in the 1929 Russian famine alone). Yeah, they died cuz of athesim and not farm collectivization.





Joltin and Baldy Joe

Seriously, you are an idiot. I really mean that, general studies boy.

Great response, catholic whackjob pussy. I'd be insane too if I had fairy tales shoved down my throat for 50 years.

[Baldy]

Baldy, you don't understand the essence of this thread. The kids were whipped and beaten because of their father's christianity. You, unfortunately, think the jews and victims of communism died or were killed because of atheism (heavens not because of the disastrous farm collectivization programs or historical antisemitism). That's just plain stupid, but you know that.

Ummm, no.

The kids were beaten because they changed the channel. I didn't really pay that much attention to the article, but I don't remember it saying anything about God or Jesus "telling" the dumbass to beat the shit out of the kids in his name.

The same can be said about the Nazis. I gave you ample proof (that you totally ignored) clearly stating that the Nazi's committed war crimes against Christian churches. Please don't insult our intelligence trying to convince anyone of the ignorant notion that the extermination of the Jews was some sort of revenge killing in the name of Jesus.

[JoltinJoe]

That the two of you strut around claiming victory, when all of the Communist philosophers advocated state atheism, and every Communist government sought to impose state atheism, is remarkable.

Atheism/humanism is a moral philosophy and people kill because of their moral philosophy, not because of their economics. Seriously, this is why you guys represent 1.6% of the population. The vast majority of people understand this. Your moral philosophy is dangerous. We are living in a post-atheist world.

Arguing with you guys is like arguing against someone 100 years ago. Didn't you pay attention to the 20th century history? Your trojan-horse beliefs have been discarded. You're a dying breed. Another generation or two, you guys will be gone.

Jesus, you really are insane. Post atheist world? When was it ever atheist?

Again, your backpeddal is breathtaking and I hope everyone caught this. I backed you into a corner not too long ago by forcing you to come up with moral and philosophical system of "Atheism", and just like every similar request, you disappear. Now you come back with the atheism/humanism cocktail!

Priceless! As a humuanist, I have no problem with religion, as long as it's personal and stays out of public affairs. The humanism I've studied is quite tolerant of religion, and ironically, more tolerant of religion than some religions, including yours.

Hey, Joe, throw around the 1.6% number all you want but the truth is your religion is dying. You and your church are an embarrassment to humanity and people are finally starting to realize it. People are leaving your church by the millions each year. No wants to be a priest, nuns are about dead, churches are empty, archdioceses are going bankrupt because they allowed children to be abused and raped for decades and people are just plain sick of arrogant **** like you who think they know everything and think theirs is the chosen church.

And I'll be here, morning noon and night, to shine the bright light of truth on your despicable cult. Count on it.

You are delusional. You post non-stop on matters that you haven't read dick. If this stuff really interested you, why don't you read up on this subject matter? To anyone who has read in this area, your lack of familiarity with the subject matter is transparently obvious.

[citdog]

Baldy, you don't understand the essence of this thread. The kids were whipped and beaten because of their father's christianity. You, unfortunately, think the jews and victims of communism died or were killed because of atheism (heavens not because of the disastrous farm collectivization programs or historical antisemitism). That's just plain stupid, but you know that.

Ummm, no.

The kids were beaten because they changed the channel. I didn't really pay that much attention to the article, but I don't remember it saying anything about God or Jesus "telling" the dumbass to beat the shit out of the kids in his name.

The same can be said about the Nazis. I gave you ample proof (that you totally ignored) clearly stating that the Nazi's committed war crimes against Christian churches. Please don't insult our intelligence trying to convince anyone of the ignorant notion that the extermination of the Jews was some sort of revenge killing in the name of Jesus.

it was the wops that did it.