Talking left, living right

[YoUDeeMan]

_____INSERT ANY POST JELLYBEAN MAKES____, how could jelly possible think that statement was going to fly?

FIFY

[biobengal]

And, also, just because the Bidens only claimed a certain amount doesn't mean that's all they gave. It just means that's all they claimed on their tax forms

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh. Now, I don't say these things because of my support for Biden; I'm sure he's the perfect scumbag as many suggest. Instead, I say these things from my own personal experience. Thus, I'm not sure how common this practice is but I don't claim any charitable deductions. This isn't due to a lack of charity; instead, I'm a strong advocate of removing tax breaks for ALL charitable contributions. I don't want my tax dollars (potential) going to fund abstinence programs, church proselytizing and the like.

For my part it's a simple matter of congruency. To date, I've never claimed a single charitable contribution.

[89Hen]

And, also, just because the Bidens only claimed a certain amount doesn't mean that's all they gave. It just means that's all they claimed on their tax forms

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh. Now, I don't say these things because of my support for Biden; I'm sure he's the perfect scumbag as many suggest. Instead, I say these things from my own personal experience. Thus, I'm not sure how common this practice is but I don't claim any charitable deductions. This isn't due to a lack of charity; instead, I'm a strong advocate of removing tax breaks for ALL charitable contributions. I don't want my tax dollars (potential) going to fund abstinence programs, church proselytizing and the like.

For my part it's a simple matter of congruency. To date, I've never claimed a single charitable contribution.

There are several possible options here:

1. He didn't want people seeing to whom he was donating.

2. He told his accountant not to take them because he shared your belief that charitable deductions shouldn't be tax deductible (even though they are).

3. He simply didn't make any contributions.

Can you think of another option?

[Skjellyfetti]

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh.

Much easier to call me a stupid McDonald's employee than to put together a cogent argument.

[89Hen]

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh.

Much easier to call me a stupid McDonald's employee than to put together a cogent argument.

No arguement needed. Your theory was

[biobengal]

There are several possible options here:

1. He didn't want people seeing to whom he was donating.

2. He told his accountant not to take them because he shared your belief that charitable deductions shouldn't be tax deductible (even though they are).

3. He simply didn't make any contributions.

Can you think of another option?

4. Charitable contributions were illegal. No tax breaks for al-Qaeda.

Bolded above, this is a very fine point... a very good way to understand the motivation of a politician: follow the flow of their own money.

[AZGrizFan]

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh.

Much easier to call me a stupid McDonald's employee than to put together a cogent argument.

You're the one that makes it so easy, KY.

If you're going to set it on a tee like that, we're going to continue hitting it out of the park.

[YoUDeeMan]

And, also, just because the Bidens only claimed a certain amount doesn't mean that's all they gave. It just means that's all they claimed on their tax forms

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh. Now, I don't say these things because of my support for Biden; I'm sure he's the perfect scumbag as many suggest. Instead, I say these things from my own personal experience. Thus, I'm not sure how common this practice is but I don't claim any charitable deductions. This isn't due to a lack of charity; instead, I'm a strong advocate of removing tax breaks for ALL charitable contributions. I don't want my tax dollars (potential) going to fund abstinence programs, church proselytizing and the like.

For my part it's a simple matter of congruency. To date, I've never claimed a single charitable contribution.

1) If you live in Delaware and you've been around a while, you know how cheap Joe is. My father's friends, and a few members of his family, were heavily involved in politics, some elected officials - as Democrats. Hard core. When they say Joe has always been, and still is, a cheap tight wad, you can believe it.

2) It is doubtful that you've given any significant amount to charity.

[bluehenbillk]

Kudos to Biden - the guy is smart. I too don't give to charity, because the vast majority of "charitable" organizations out there are frauds. Why give a dollar when you know seventy-some cents of that donation is going to pay for overhead & things of the like....

Bust all you want on Biden for most of the stuff he does/says but not this one..

[89Hen]

Bolded above, this is a very fine point... a very good way to understand the motivation of a politician: follow the flow of their own money.

How plausable do you think it was that the Bidens donated money to a fringe group that would be viewed as such?

[89Hen]

Kudos to Biden - the guy is smart. I too don't give to charity, because the vast majority of "charitable" organizations out there are frauds. Why give a dollar when you know seventy-some cents of that donation is going to pay for overhead & things of the like....

Bust all you want on Biden for most of the stuff he does/says but not this one..

It doesn't take much digging to find the ones that aren't. Sounds like you just don't want to give.

[ASUG8]

Kudos to Biden - the guy is smart. I too don't give to charity, because the vast majority of "charitable" organizations out there are frauds. Why give a dollar when you know seventy-some cents of that donation is going to pay for overhead & things of the like....

Bust all you want on Biden for most of the stuff he does/says but not this one..

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.c ... listid=113" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do a little research - there are a ton of credible charities out there. If you aren't comfortable with money, donate food or clothing (hard to skim that too much).

[Ivytalk]

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh. Now, I don't say these things because of my support for Biden; I'm sure he's the perfect scumbag as many suggest. Instead, I say these things from my own personal experience. Thus, I'm not sure how common this practice is but I don't claim any charitable deductions. This isn't due to a lack of charity; instead, I'm a strong advocate of removing tax breaks for ALL charitable contributions. I don't want my tax dollars (potential) going to fund abstinence programs, church proselytizing and the like.

For my part it's a simple matter of congruency. To date, I've never claimed a single charitable contribution.

1) If you live in Delaware and you've been around a while, you know how cheap Joe is. My father's friends, and a few members of his family, were heavily involved in politics, some elected officials - as Democrats. Hard core. When they say Joe has always been, and still is, a cheap tight wad, you can believe it.

2) It is doubtful that you've given any significant amount to charity.

Biden sunk all his dough into that Barley Mill Road house that he got for a song (so I hear). He's a regular at those 3-for-1 suit sales at Joe Bank's.

[YoUDeeMan]

Biden sunk all his dough into that Barley Mill Road house that he got for a song (so I hear). He's a regular at those 3-for-1 suit sales at Joe Bank's.

That house was a steal...funny things happen in Delaware.

[UNI88]

Kudos to Biden - the guy is smart. I too don't give to charity, because the vast majority of "charitable" organizations out there are frauds. Why give a dollar when you know seventy-some cents of that donation is going to pay for overhead & things of the like....

Bust all you want on Biden for most of the stuff he does/says but not this one..

We can't bust on a guy that says that the wealthy should be forced to contribute more in taxes so that the government can do more to help the less fortunate but who is apparently unwilling to voluntarily contribute to help the less fortunate?

[Appaholic]

Do y'all claim every charitable donation you make? I don't... usually because I can't keep up with the receipts and such. Only charitable donation I claimed this year was to Yosef Club and that was because I have easily accessed proof of that one. I donated a lot more... just no idea $$-wise.

Yes....I even claim some I don't make...(as well as some energy effecient tax credits to boot.... )

[Appaholic]

Kudos to Biden - the guy is smart. I too don't give to charity, because the vast majority of "charitable" organizations out there are frauds. Why give a dollar when you know seventy-some cents of that donation is going to pay for overhead & things of the like....

Bust all you want on Biden for most of the stuff he does/says but not this one..

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.c ... listid=113" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do a little research - there are a ton of credible charities out there. If you aren't comfortable with money, donate food or clothing (hard to skim that too much).

Bingo! I can think of few things more valuable to the poor & needy in winter than warm clothes. And, as G8 pointed out, there's really no way to skim off the top of that....

[Appaholic]

And, also, just because the Bidens only claimed a certain amount doesn't mean that's all they gave. It just means that's all they claimed on their tax forms

Folks, what exactly is wrong with this argument? Some very unreasonable people have conveniently pushed aside a fundamental assumption (claimed for tax purposes = given) with a condescending laugh. Now, I don't say these things because of my support for Biden; I'm sure he's the perfect scumbag as many suggest. Instead, I say these things from my own personal experience. Thus, I'm not sure how common this practice is but I don't claim any charitable deductions. This isn't due to a lack of charity; instead, I'm a strong advocate of removing tax breaks for ALL charitable contributions. I don't want my tax dollars (potential) going to fund abstinence programs, church proselytizing and the like.

For my part it's a simple matter of congruency. To date, I've never claimed a single charitable contribution.

That's asinine...nothing personal, but your actions are in direct conflict with your philosophy. You'd rather NOT take a legal charitable contribution deduction on your taxes? You'd rather pay more in taxes to the government so THEY can decide how to use your money instead of YOU deciding who could use the charity in your own community? Sorry...again, that's ignorant...

If you don't want the government to use your tax dollars to fund abstinence programs or church proselytizing, then the most effective way to do that is by not giving them more money than they are due. And you do that by taking legal tax deductions so you pay less in taxes to the government.....

[ASUG8]

To Appa's point, I take legal deductions from contributions I make to organizations that I trust. I don't have much of a choice what I pay the government, but I certainly don't believe that the government is the most efficient clearing house for distributing necessary charity. I'd rather find some that align with my personal convictions and contribute to them - it's a charity's core competence vs. a government struggling to find theirs. If you believe that a charity that "only" pays out $.93 on the dollar is less efficient than the bureaucratic FEMA's and welfare organizations then I have some land to sell you.

[Skjellyfetti]

Bolded above, this is a very fine point... a very good way to understand the motivation of a politician: follow the flow of their own money.

How plausable do you think it was that the Bidens donated money to a fringe group that would be viewed as such?

It doesn't have to be a fringe group to get a lot of criticism as a politician.

Obama received criticism from right wing groups for donating quite a bit to the United Negro College Fund. Not a fringe organization by any means... but, right wing nutjubs took it as evidence of his "racism" and used it as ammunition against him.

[89Hen]

How plausable do you think it was that the Bidens donated money to a fringe group that would be viewed as such?

It doesn't have to be a fringe group to get a lot of criticism as a politician.

Obama received criticism from right wing groups for donating quite a bit to the United Negro College Fund. Not a fringe organization by any means... but, right wing nutjubs took it as evidence of his "racism" and used it as ammunition against him.

Must not have been very big news. First I've heard of it.

[HI54UNI]

It doesn't have to be a fringe group to get a lot of criticism as a politician.

Obama received criticism from right wing groups for donating quite a bit to the United Negro College Fund. Not a fringe organization by any means... but, right wing nutjubs took it as evidence of his "racism" and used it as ammunition against him.

Must not have been very big news. First I've heard of it.

Ditto. I'd love to see a link to a story on that one.

[Skjellyfetti]

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=OBAMA+RACIST+UNCF+DONATION" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[89Hen]

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=OBAMA+RACIST+UNCF+DONATION

Based on your sources, people would think JBB were an FCS expert.

[HI54UNI]

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=OBAMA+RACIST+UNCF+DONATION

I looked through the first 3 pages of your google search. A few idiots on a message board bitching about Barry were the only things I could find. No "right wing groups" complaining.