D1B wrote:JoltinJoe wrote:I did post a picture of the friary earlier in the thread, albeit from a great distance, so it is hard to see that it is intact. I think you can confirm the fact that the friary was intact and the monks there were spared from the blast by numerous sources on the internet.
Like most friaries, the friary at Nagasaki would simply be most commonly referred to by its order and location, the Franciscan Friary of Nagasaki. Kolbe called it, "Mugenzai no Sono, or the “Garden of the Immaculate.”
Yeah and it was built with **** marble or limestone or granite and partially protected from the blast by the mountain - while all the houses and **** were built with rice paper, chopsticks and wasabi paste. What's your point?
This ridiculous reaching is part of your catholic upbringing and underscores the danger of religion - that it can make an extremely intelligent man like you believe in,
blindly believe in and defend utter bullshit.
The same **** happened on a much larger scale when the protestants, russian orthodox christians, catholics in Italy and **** shinto Japs - the most religious nations on the planet - believed in Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Hirohito. Religion is a disease of the mind.
Look, you started this thread by mocking a simple nun who reported that she had an apparition of Mary 150 years ago. Everyone chimed in and called her mentally ill.
So I linked to a miraculous event reported by nearly all of perhaps 70,000 people (including numerous skepcts who had come to gloat) gathered at Fatima on October 13, 1917 at noon. You can't dismiss 70,000 people as delusional or mentally ill. Now I know you are not a person of faith, so I don't expect you to leap to the conclusion that God, at the request of Mary, performed a great miracle by creating the appearance of the sun gyrating in the sky. But I do find it amazing that you and others were so quickly to embrace the idea that this was caused by almost 70,000 people simultaneously experiencing retinal distortion, an explanation which is, quite frankly, ridiculous (especially since no one was "on notice" to stare at the sun before this happened).
I then brought up Maximilian Kolbe, an extraordinary man who, at great personal risk, housed and sheltered Jews in Poland from Nazi occupiers, and was sent to Auschwitz for his actions. The authorities were convinced that a a period at Auschwitz was enough to cure this delusional priest of his desire to help Jews, and then they free him. But he goes right back to assisting Jews and blasting Nazis in his publications. So he gets sent to Auschwitz again, where he ultimately volunteers his life for another, and goes to his death with so much courage that even his jailers marvel. Some even grow sympathetic and smuggle him bread and wine so he can perform Communion.
You can call him delusional. I say he had an extraordinary faith-based courage. Whatever he had, I wish I had, and if that makes me delusional, then I want to be delusional.
That his friary in Nagasaki survived intact when nothing else around it for nearly a mile did, is perhaps coincidence, but I see something more at work
) in the photo would have been evidence enough... but, I guess not. You just really, really want to believe it's from before.
