NDSU BISON Greatest Moment of 2010:

[uofmman1122]

Some of you on this thread seem to have a serious grudge against NDSU......why I don't know, but probably is due to posters such as JBB. Granted he is very delusional at times

He's not the only one that's delusional.

The bottom line is that NDSU is and will continue to be a very good FCS program, we have the tradition, the fan support, the cash, and the facilities.[....]Now I know many of you will say well ya haven't done shit in the playoffs, etc, etc etc, but we have only been eligible a couple years....give us a little time for f*** sakes![...]All I am saying is have a little respect for our program

I do have a little respect for your program. Not the kind of respect to call you a "very good FCS program." Outside of this year's playoff run, the most you've done for your "FCS Cred" was beating us in 2003.

At this point, Colgate has a better FCS tradition than you do.

We're willing to give you more time if all you Bison fans are willing to do the same. You're NOT an elite FCS team yet. Stop coming here getting mad when we don't recognize you with the likes of Montana, App State, Delaware, Georgia Southern, etc. just because you were paper champions in 2006, had one good playoff run in a year when the entire playoff field was down, and have marginally good fan support.

The FCS world does not revolve around Fargo. Jesus...

[TheHerd]

The bottom line is that NDSU is and will continue to be a very good FCS program, we have the tradition.....

Stop right there. You have NO FCS tradition to speak of....you have an awesome D2 tradition, but it doesn't mean anymore than Elon's awesome NAIA tradition in FCS football. Quit deluding yourselves into thinking you have "arrived" at the FCS level, because you haven't....you put together a good run at the end of the year, that's all....when you do it year in, year out, then you can claim "a very food FCS program" with "the tradition"....

I did not say FCS tradition.....what I was referencing was the fact that we have a winning tradition period and that we are used to winning. I never said we have arrived as a FCS program, only time will tell that, but we are a good FCS program right now and as I said I think most teams would love to see us on their schedule. Just as we would love to see App.St or Montana etc etc on our schedule. We do have a little FCS tradition and have done some good things, such as back to back 10-1 seasons during the transition and those weren't cupcake schedules those years and the playoffs last year, but it is just the start.....again we have only been eligible a couple years, it takes much longer than that for a playoff tradition to began. How many years do we need to go to the playoffs or how deep do we have to go in the playoffs to have said we have arrived as an FCS program?? For a lot of the posters I see around here it will take us winning a couple NC's before they quit beating this dead horse about "having arrived or a legit FCS program".

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Some of you on this thread seem to have a serious grudge against NDSU......why I don't know, but probably is due to posters such as JBB. Granted he is very delusional at times

He's not the only one that's delusional.

The bottom line is that NDSU is and will continue to be a very good FCS program, we have the tradition, the fan support, the cash, and the facilities.[....]Now I know many of you will say well ya haven't done shit in the playoffs, etc, etc etc, but we have only been eligible a couple years....give us a little time for f*** sakes![...]All I am saying is have a little respect for our program

I do have a little respect for your program. Not the kind of respect to call you a "very good FCS program." Outside of this year's playoff run, the most you've done for your "FCS Cred" was beating us in 2003.

At this point, Colgate has a better FCS tradition than you do.

We're willing to give you more time if all you Bison fans are willing to do the same. You're NOT an elite FCS team yet. Stop coming here getting mad when we don't recognize you with the likes of Montana, App State, Delaware, Georgia Southern, etc. just because you were paper champions in 2006, had one good playoff run in a year when the entire playoff field was down, and have marginally good fan support.

The FCS world does not revolve around Fargo. Jesus...

Pretty much nails it down. Begging for attention and over stating every little thing doesn't endear anyone outside of the NDSU fans to have an ounce of respect for the program. The Herd may not be one of those guys though.

[TheHerd]

Some of you on this thread seem to have a serious grudge against NDSU......why I don't know, but probably is due to posters such as JBB. Granted he is very delusional at times

He's not the only one that's delusional.

The bottom line is that NDSU is and will continue to be a very good FCS program, we have the tradition, the fan support, the cash, and the facilities.[....]Now I know many of you will say well ya haven't done **** in the playoffs, etc, etc etc, but we have only been eligible a couple years....give us a little time for f*** sakes![...]All I am saying is have a little respect for our program

I do have a little respect for your program. Not the kind of respect to call you a "very good FCS program." Outside of this year's playoff run, the most you've done for your "FCS Cred" was beating us in 2003.

At this point, Colgate has a better FCS tradition than you do.

We're willing to give you more time if all you Bison fans are willing to do the same. You're NOT an elite FCS team yet. Stop coming here getting mad when we don't recognize you with the likes of Montana, App State, Delaware, Georgia Southern, etc. just because you were paper champions in 2006, had one good playoff run in a year when the entire playoff field was down, and have marginally good fan support.

The FCS world does not revolve around Fargo. Jesus...

I never typed the words elite...I stated we a very good program right now. Obviously our goal is to become like a Montana or an App. St, but that only comes over time. Again never stated FCS tradition, just tradition.

[TheHerd]

He's not the only one that's delusional.
I do have a little respect for your program. Not the kind of respect to call you a "very good FCS program." Outside of this year's playoff run, the most you've done for your "FCS Cred" was beating us in 2003.

At this point, Colgate has a better FCS tradition than you do.

We're willing to give you more time if all you Bison fans are willing to do the same. You're NOT an elite FCS team yet. Stop coming here getting mad when we don't recognize you with the likes of Montana, App State, Delaware, Georgia Southern, etc. just because you were paper champions in 2006, had one good playoff run in a year when the entire playoff field was down, and have marginally good fan support.

The FCS world does not revolve around Fargo. Jesus...

Pretty much nails it down. Begging for attention and over stating every little thing doesn't endear anyone outside of the NDSU fans to have an ounce of respect for the program. The Herd may not be one of those guys though.

Not bieng cocky, but just saying we have beaten Montana and Georgia Southern in the last seven years and have not played App. St or the blue hens, but would love too. Not stating that we are superior to any of these programs, just simply stateing that we have played two of them since our transition began and beaten two of them on thier home fields. Actually the year we beat the griz was the year before our full DI season. Just making the point that NDSU has beaten a lot of very good FCS teams, as well as our FBS wins, because many on here post as if we are a lower level FCS team that deserves little respect.

[JBB]

I know a lot of you like to jump all over TheHerd, after all he is over the top, but you have to love his enthusiasm for the BISON. He is also correct in asserting NDSU has arrived. The BISON are here.

Its also correct to say the FCS world DOES revolve around NDSU just as much as App State, Nova, Montana or UNI. NDSU is a top program in the FCS, the largest program in the MVFC and the winningest FCS team in the FBS. The BISON are nationwide.

There are a lot of folks here that are having problems with the Rizen of the Bizon. Many of you wish your team was as successful. Montana didnt even make the playoffs this year, too busy playing D2s, so what kind of tradition is that? The Grizzlies have made a living off domination of a weak football conference. That formula is now being challenged and times are changing.

Same in MVFC. NDSU is now in perpetual contention for the MVFC and the FCS title.

The purpose of this thread was to highlight what NDSU did well this year thereby giving everyone a glimpse into the future. They won on the road, had a great playoff win in the Prestigious Fargo Dome and were victorious against Big 12 charter member University of Kansas. That game you might remember was listed with the 10 games that should have not been scheduled because they were so one sided.

It was a very successful year for the BISON. A foundation was built. Each year should see incremental improvements and eventually, the team that is being built now will win at least 1 national championship maybe 2. I see them as one of the top 5 teams in the country and favorite in the hunt for the 2011 title.

For some programs, UND is an example, there is a big difference between D2 and FCS/FBS football. NDSU didnt miss a step. We are right at home here in the FCS and certainly the NDSU Fans are as knowledgeable as any of the "old timers" that think they have some kind of secret knowledge. Thats absurd, NDSU doesnt have to win anything to have confidence in the future but we have a lot of things going for us which makes the future look even brighter.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Pretty much nails it down. Begging for attention and over stating every little thing doesn't endear anyone outside of the NDSU fans to have an ounce of respect for the program. The Herd may not be one of those guys though.

Not bieng cocky, but just saying we have beaten Montana and Georgia Southern in the last seven years and have not played App. St or the blue hens, but would love too. Not stating that we are superior to any of these programs, just simply stateing that we have played two of them since our transition began and beaten two of them on thier home fields. Actually the year we beat the griz was the year before our full DI season. Just making the point that NDSU has beaten a lot of very good FCS teams, as well as our FBS wins, because many on here post as if we are a lower level FCS team that deserves little respect.

So you've done what a whole lot of other teams have done and with the exception of this years hadn't had a post season win. The list of teams with FBS wins is fairly long so that ain't a difference or a reason to expect some respect. You've beaten Montana and GSU in the last seven years...again gives some respect but doesn't separate NDSU as it has been done by other teams as well that also are not on here tooting their own horns as something special.

The thing about respect is it comes to a program naturally based on merit. NDSU's just isn't there yet in spite of what you or JBB or anyone else may be telling us.

You haven't done anything that a lot of other middlin' teams haven't done already. It's cool though we all overvalue what our teams have accomplished but a lot of NDSU fans are in a whole different orbit in that regard.

[JBB]

Bring forward the FCS teams with a win over Kansas, the Gophers, Ball State and Central Mich. Lets have all the teams on stage that got to the quarter finals in their second year of playoff eligibility. Lets have all the teams that achieved a #1 ranking in their transition years join The BISON on stage.

NDSU has done more since they moved up than most. Respect, who cares? You probably give UND more respect because they heel and their tongues fall out when you pat them on the head.

I can tell you this much, that game at EWU didnt win anybody any respect. The game at Montana State won the BISON the respect of the entire division just as the win at University of Kansas. The win over RMU won respect on the East Coast. NDSU is here you can respect them if you want but ignore them at your own peril.

[FargoBison]

I'll agree about not being elite or one of the powerhouses because we don't have an NC or a ton of playoff success but NDSU is 53-27 since joining the FCS, 4-3 vs the FBS, finished in the top 25 in all but two seasons, top 10 in three seasons, two playoff wins. That ain't middlin, it isn't elite but if that is middlin than a lot of programs must flat out suck at this level.

I'm fine with people blasting those who call NDSU elite and act like NDSU is greatest ever. Blast away but don't belittle the success NDSU has had. I think we've done enough to say we are a solid FCS program.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I can tell you this much, that game at EWU didnt win anybody any respect. The game at Montana State won the BISON the respect of the entire division just as the win at University of Kansas. The win over RMU won respect on the East Coast. NDSU is here you can respect them if you want but ignore them at your own peril.

I'm pretty sure BLM sacking up and driving 90 yards in the final two minutes in a blizzard to send the game to OT, then throwing a 25 yard TD on the first play of OT earned EWU a lot of respect. Sure didn't win your defense much respect. They flat out got beat down.

[kalm]

I know a lot of you like to jump all over TheHerd, after all he is over the top, but you have to love his enthusiasm for the BISON. He is also correct in asserting NDSU has arrived. The BISON are here.

Its also correct to say the FCS world DOES revolve around NDSU just as much as App State, Nova, Montana or UNI. NDSU is a top program in the FCS, the largest program in the MVFC and the winningest FCS team in the FBS. The BISON are nationwide.

There are a lot of folks here that are having problems with the Rizen of the Bizon. Many of you wish your team was as successful. Montana didnt even make the playoffs this year, too busy playing D2s, so what kind of tradition is that? The Grizzlies have made a living off domination of a weak football conference. That formula is now being challenged and times are changing.

Same in MVFC. NDSU is now in perpetual contention for the MVFC and the FCS title.

The purpose of this thread was to highlight what NDSU did well this year thereby giving everyone a glimpse into the future. They won on the road, had a great playoff win in the Prestigious Fargo Dome and were victorious against Big 12 charter member University of Kansas. That game you might remember was listed with the 10 games that should have not been scheduled because they were so one sided.

It was a very successful year for the BISON. A foundation was built. Each year should see incremental improvements and eventually, the team that is being built now will win at least 1 national championship maybe 2. I see them as one of the top 5 teams in the country and favorite in the hunt for the 2011 title.

For some programs, UND is an example, there is a big difference between D2 and FCS/FBS football. NDSU didnt miss a step. We are right at home here in the FCS and certainly the NDSU Fans are as knowledgeable as any of the "old timers" that think they have some kind of secret knowledge. Thats absurd, NDSU doesnt have to win anything to have confidence in the future but we have a lot of things going for us which makes the future look even brighter.

Idaho State is a charter member of a conference too.

[JBB]

No matter how much bragging is done I dont think many, if any, Bison fans are thinking that EWU got a convincing win. Many, maybe all, think EWU got darn good and lucky. Good team, but not a convincing win.

The most important thing to remember is what the NDSU program has demonstrated. NDSU has shown it can build a winner and cycle through to build another winner.

[uofmman1122]

No matter how much bragging is done I dont think many, if any, Bison fans are thinking that EWU got a convincing win. Many, maybe all, think EWU got darn good and lucky. Good team, but not a convincing win.

The most important thing to remember is what the NDSU program has demonstrated. NDSU has shown it can build a winner and cycle through to build another winner.

I don't think EWU can hear you over the squeak of their polished NC trophy. Too bad you've only got the crinkle of that paper one.

Check the sig.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

No matter how much bragging is done I dont think many, if any, Bison fans are thinking that EWU got a convincing win. Many, maybe all, think EWU got darn good and lucky. Good team, but not a convincing win.

The most important thing to remember is what the NDSU program has demonstrated. NDSU has shown it can build a winner and cycle through to build another winner.

I think a simple win advanced them as much a convincing win would have so that doesn't really matter to anyone but an NDSU fan. When NDSU doesn't win there are always outside factors that the Bison can not be held accountable for. Why accept what happens when you can blame a cowbell & the refs right?

[JBB]

EWUs win wasnt actually a simple win, it was an officiated win. Big difference.

Compare it to the 42-17 win against the BobCats, the fans favorite 2010 NDSU BISON highlight. That was a convincing win. No question, no comment, just a good solid football game that won respect for NDSU throughout the Big Sky.

Same can be said about the 43-17 win over the weaker eastern school RMU. That was a game that brought a tremendous amount of recognition and respect for the NDSU BISON on the East Coast.

As we move forward its important to keep our eye on the future, but its also important to remember where we have been. The highlights from the 2010 football season provides the legendary NDSU Football Program with a foundation to build on. Young, athletic players, highly recruited to the campus of NDSU are learning the fundamentals of championship football. Those lessons include the victory over Kansas, charter Big 12 member. That win earned the respect of not only the MVFC fans but the fan base of the entire NCAA.

The win at Montana State further established NDSU dominance over the Big Sky and taught the players the significance of good sportsmanship.

The EWU game taught the players the lesson that sometimes you have to do more than physically dominate and out play your opponent to win. Sometimes its just out of your hands. Thats where the determination to win comes from, when you have one stolen from you.

[houndawg]

EWUs win wasnt actually a simple win, it was an officiated win. Big difference.

Compare it to the 42-17 win against the BobCats, the fans favorite 2010 NDSU BISON highlight. That was a convincing win. No question, no comment, just a good solid football game that won respect for NDSU throughout the Big Sky.

Same can be said about the 43-17 win over the weaker eastern school RMU. That was a game that brought a tremendous amount of recognition and respect for the NDSU BISON on the East Coast.

As we move forward its important to keep our eye on the future, but its also important to remember where we have been. The highlights from the 2010 football season provides the legendary NDSU Football Program with a foundation to build on. Young, athletic players, highly recruited to the campus of NDSU are learning the fundamentals of championship football. Those lessons include the victory over Kansas, charter Big 12 member. That win earned the respect of not only the MVFC fans but the fan base of the entire NCAA.

The win at Montana State further established NDSU dominance over the Big Sky and taught the players the significance of good sportsmanship.

The EWU game taught the players the lesson that sometimes you have to do more than physically dominate and out play your opponent to win. Sometimes its just out of your hands. Thats where the determination to win comes from, when you have one stolen from you.

The Bison were exposed by RMU. A team with six scholarship players went toe to toe for over 3 quarters with NDSU. This is why nobody was surprised when TJ ran for 200 yards in one half as EWU beat the bejeezus out of NDSU and let their scrubs mop up for the whole second half.

[EWURanger]

EWUs win wasnt actually a simple win, it was an officiated win. Big difference.

The EWU game taught the players the lesson that sometimes you have to do more than physically dominate and out play your opponent to win. Sometimes its just out of your hands. Thats where the determination to win comes from, when you have one stolen from you.

LOL, it's almost like you're trying to say Ewoo didn't earn a National Championship. Yes, we had to squeak by NDSU, and that game could have gone either way, but I think some people forget the fact that we had to beat not one, but two CAA schools en-route to that NC ring. This was something that no one (sans Big Sky fans) gave us a chance in doing. Again, say what you want about the NDSU match, but certainly we must have garnered at least a little respect from those in CAA-land.

FWIW, I think NDSU is on the right track, and is a program on the rise - but definitely not "there" yet. EWU has "almost" been there before, too.

Hell, I think there's really only 4 or 5 truly "elite" teams in the FCS - Montana, GSU, ASU, Delaware, and Youngstown - historically speaking.

[SloStang]

Wasn't just a year ago that Bison fans were calling for their coaches head after two very subpar seasons. Now he and the Bison are the best in the FCS.

[griz8791]

I think it's interesting the way all the FCS fans from around the country, whose undying respect NDSU earned with the MSU win, have totally had JBB's back in this thread.

[kalm]

[Gil Dobie]

The Bison were exposed by RMU. A team with six scholarship players went toe to toe for over 3 quarters with NDSU. This is why nobody was surprised when TJ ran for 200 yards in one half as EWU beat the bejeezus out of NDSU and let their scrubs mop up for the whole second half.

Beats sitting in Carbondale waiting for next season.

[Appaholic]

Same can be said about the 43-17 win over the weaker eastern school RMU. That was a game that brought a tremendous amount of recognition and respect for the NDSU BISON on the East Coast.

Really? I didn't even know Robert Morris was an eastern school. Heck, I didn't even know there was a school named "Robert Morris".....are you sure?

[Gil Dobie]

Same can be said about the 43-17 win over the weaker eastern school RMU. That was a game that brought a tremendous amount of recognition and respect for the NDSU BISON on the East Coast.

Really? I didn't even know Robert Morris was an eastern school. Heck, I didn't even know there was a school named "Robert Morris".....are you sure?

I didn't now App St had a football program until NDSU moved to I-AA.

[lakesbison]

NDSU got royally screwed in EWU. CAA refs didn't want nova in the fargodome.
Plus ewu is in a lil hicktown with 3000 fans, what a joke.

No other FCS team has beat 4 FBS teams on the road in 4 years (lost by 1 to 2 others!)

Plus the MVFC is physical, not mamby pamby.

[Grizalltheway]

NDSU got royally screwed in EWU. CAA refs didn't want nova in the fargodome.
Plus ewu is in a lil hicktown with 3000 fans, what a joke.

No other FCS team has beat 4 FBS teams on the road in 4 years (lost by 1 to 2 others!)

Plus the MVFC is physical, not mamby pamby.