The Kennedy Proposal

[89Hen]

I have sent my proposal to every ESPN writer, the ESPN President, every AQ BCS President, and every writer in the Football Writers Association of America. Can you provide asine research that deep?

I'm not familiar with the method of asine research.

[brandonkennedy]

I already have. But you're so blinded by the facts that you don't want to listen. The NCAA does not have to support a bowl system at FCS, DII, or DIII and simply saying, "a 16 team playoff works at all the other divisions" is childish--at best.

Mr. Advocate of a 16 team playoff, if that idea ever gets traction, which I highly doubt, how do you plan to explain to the California's Chamber of Commerce that they will lose hundreds of millions of dollars because a 5-7 day bowl trip no longer occurs. How will you explain that the Chamber of Commerce for the State of Louisiana, Chamber of Commerce for the State of Florida, and the Chamber of Commerce for the State Arizona?

After that has been completed, how will you explain the revenues lost to the Chamber of Commerce for the City of Pasedena, the City of New Orleans, the City of Miami, and the City of Glendale?


BTW, Josh Peter, an author of the book you just read, told me that the Kennedy Proposal was one of "the finest" plans presented. Shall I forward you the email?

[SDHornet]

I have sent my proposal to every ESPN writer, the ESPN President, every AQ BCS President, and every writer in the Football Writers Association of America. Can you provide asine research that deep?

I'm not familiar with the method of asine research.

[brandonkennedy]

I have sent my proposal to every ESPN writer, the ESPN President, every AQ BCS President, and every writer in the Football Writers Association of America. Can you provide asine research that deep?

I'm not familiar with the method of asine research.

I'm not to sure what it is either but SDHornet said I should say anything without further evidence because my research was asine. Something like that. It's in an earlier post.

[SDHornet]

I'm not familiar with the method of asine research.

I'm not to sure what it is either but SDHornet said I should say anything without further evidence because my research was asine. Something like that. It's in an earlier post.

The word is “asinine.” Reading is fundamental BK.

[brandonkennedy]

See, once gain, you are attacking the wrong baseline. It's not my reading its my typing.

[SDHornet]

See, once gain, you are attacking the wrong baseline. It's not my reading its my typing.

Fair enough. If you are going to put words in my mouth, at least make sure they are real words.

[SDHornet]

I already have. But you're so blinded by the facts that you don't want to listen. The NCAA does not have to support a bowl system at FCS, DII, or DIII and simply saying, "a 16 team playoff works at all the other divisions" is childish--at best.

The NCAA does not support a bowl system; they are run by independent entities separate from the NCAA, most of which enjoy charity status so they don’t pay taxes. You are right; I’m blinded by facts stacked against a BCS system which is why I adamantly believe any playoff system retaining the use of the BCS is ridiculous.

Mr. Advocate of a 16 team playoff, if that idea ever gets traction, which I highly doubt, how do you plan to explain to the California's Chamber of Commerce that they will lose hundreds of millions of dollars because a 5-7 day bowl trip no longer occurs. How will you explain that the Chamber of Commerce for the State of Louisiana, Chamber of Commerce for the State of Florida, and the Chamber of Commerce for the State Arizona?

After that has been completed, how will you explain the revenues lost to the Chamber of Commerce for the City of Pasedena, the City of New Orleans, the City of Miami, and the City of Glendale?

Most universities lose money when they attend bowl games. Also most of the income you describe is displaced revenue. The only way the respective state’s listed above earn additional revenue is if there is a significant amount of travel coming in from out of state travellers. And does the handful of bowl in the state of CA really generate hundreds of millions in revenue? I doubt it. Even if they did, many of the bowls receive charity status from the IRS so the bowl itself would be exempt from paying taxes.

Funny you mention Louisiana. Did you know that tax payers in that state subsidize the Sugar Bowl and other bowls in the state to the tune of approximately $3 million a year?

Now how do those numbers stack up against a 16 team playoff you ask? It is estimated that the revenue generated by the TV contract, endorsements, and advertising pertaining to a 16 team playoff will be worth at least $700 million with the potential of continued growth.

BTW, Josh Peter, an author of the book you just read, told me that the Kennedy Proposal was one of "the finest" plans presented. Shall I forward you the email?

Good for you, feel free to post the email if you wish. I’ll take your word for it.

[brandonkennedy]

Mr. SDHornet,

It's apparent that you don't know anything and are just quoting a book you read. Good luck in your quest too.

[SDHornet]

Mr. SDHornet,

It's apparent that you don't know anything and are just quoting a book you read. Good luck in your quest too.

A book that was written by three well respected Yahoo sports columnists who would lose their credibility had they just went out and published a book without doing their homework. Yes I’ll take their word for it.

Again best of luck to your journey as well. I wasn’t posting in hopes that you would give up your quest, only offering my thoughts based upon what I have read and saw related to this BCS issue. The sad fact is no one has to listen to anyone’s proposals as those empowered by the BCS will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way. I honestly feel anyway to bring about a true honest and fair playoff system is through anti-trust issues associated with how the bowls and BCS systems run. Again best of luck and stay safe on your travels and journey.

[SuperHornet]

I object.

While I don't always agree with my compatriot, I do know that he has proven himself time and time again as one of the most intelligent, hardest working posters we have here. His work providing season previews and reviews is beyond peer. Factor in that he's espoused well-reasoned opinions on topics other than sports leads one familiar with his work to accept HIS views over that of a newbie.

I'll take SD's side here (even if that's worth about as much as a GOP politician endorsed by Sarah Palin).

[brandonkennedy]

Mr. SDHornet,

It's apparent that you don't know anything and are just quoting a book you read. Good luck in your quest too.

A book that was written by three well respected Yahoo sports columnists who would lose their credibility had they just went out and published a book without doing their homework. Yes I’ll take their word for it.

Again best of luck to your journey as well. I wasn’t posting in hopes that you would give up your quest, only offering my thoughts based upon what I have read and saw related to this BCS issue. The sad fact is no one has to listen to anyone’s proposals as those empowered by the BCS will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way. I honestly feel anyway to bring about a true honest and fair playoff system is through anti-trust issues associated with how the bowls and BCS systems run. Again best of luck and stay safe on your travels and journey.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. People are listening to the Kennedy Proposal. I know that because they come up to me in the streets and ask. I know that because they come into the Olive Garden and ask. No one listens to 16 team playoffs for the FBS because it's a reptitive idea that has been officially rejected by the NCAA.

I do think it's funny that you claim antitrust is the way to go but then feel that it's best to implement a 16 team playoff. The book is entitled "Death to the BCS" but if the plan was implemented, not only would that be 'Death to the BCS", that would mean other bowls would have to cease too. In fact, that's why all the bowl organizers, criminals or not, repsonded to the SI article. I sent my proposal to Scott McKibben, he hasn't responded yet.

Dan Wetzel, Jeff Passan, and Josh Peter are a bunch of fakes. Entitle a book one thing but the result of the book's call would lead to another. Looks like lost credibilty to me. Another fact, is that Alan Barra, Wall Street Journal writer, says "Last year's Heisman winner, Alabama's Mark Ingram, could have been scoring touchdowns in a meaningful playoff match instead of just another bowl game when No. 16 Alabama crushed No. 9 Michigan State 49-7 on New Year's Day in the Capital One Bowl." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 98062.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BS. Alabama was not invited to Mr. Wetzel's playoff and still would have played in a bowl but somehow his plan is a winner. Who is receiving the revenues from the 16 team playoff solicited by 'Death to the BCS'? I know it isn't the NCAA. So you have a book saying everything in college athletics or the BCS is a scam yet the money from the book is going where????????


Both the BCS bowls and non-BCS are not operated absent of the NCAA. The NCAA certifies who can host bowl games. DO HOMEWORK!!!!! If you watched the BCS title game. Then I'm sure you saw that the chain gang had a official NCAA Patches and that's because they NCAA certifies the BCS National Championship.

And what's your course of action exactly? My guess it that you don't have one but you're very quick so slam someone elses. I am glad EWURanger created a forum for the Kennedy Proposal and if you do not want to talk about the only proposal that has any chance of getting implemented, then leave the forum.

[brandonkennedy]

I object.

While I don't always agree with my compatriot, I do know that he has proven himself time and time again as one of the most intelligent, hardest working posters we have here. His work providing season previews and reviews is beyond peer. Factor in that he's espoused well-reasoned opinions on topics other than sports leads one familiar with his work to accept HIS views over that of a newbie.

I'll take SD's side here (even if that's worth about as much as a GOP politician endorsed by Sarah Palin).

I'm glad you side with you Mr. SDHornet but here's news: You two are the newbies, I've been pushing the Kennedy Proposal for over two years and this is the first time that either of you have commented. Besides, I'm writing on what I researched after attending Congressional Hearings and studying in the Library of Congress. Not spitting back out information that was researched by somebody else who is using a 16 team playoff to get rich.

[SDHornet]

I'm not sure what you are talking about. People are listening to the Kennedy Proposal. I know that because they come up to me in the streets and ask. I know that because they come into the Olive Garden and ask. No one listens to 16 team playoffs for the FBS because it's a reptitive idea that has been officially rejected by the NCAA.

You are right, let’s not use a system that has proven over time to provide teams the opportunity to win the championships on the field. If the BCS has it right, how can everyone else be so wrong?

I do think it's funny that you claim antitrust is the way to go but then feel that it's best to implement a 16 team playoff. The book is entitled "Death to the BCS" but if the plan was implemented, not only would that be 'Death to the BCS", that would mean other bowls would have to cease too. In fact, that's why all the bowl organizers, criminals or not, repsonded to the SI article. I sent my proposal to Scott McKibben, he hasn't responded yet.

Do you even know the basis of the anti-trust issues associated with the BCS? Do you know what the term “anti-trust” is referring to when I use it? It obviously sounds like you don’t.

I challenge you to read “Death to the BCS.” In fact, I’ll go one step further and tell you that I will buy you a copy and have it shipped to you if you promise to read the whole thing cover to cover and if you promise not to post about your proposal until you read it.

Many bowls will still survive even during a playoff. As I said in an earlier post, they can be held concurrently (that means at the same time) with a 16 team playoff. Sure the Tampax.com Bowl and the Fingerinmybutt Bowl will fold, but I don’t think there will be many people griping about this. There are some successful bowls outside of the BCS. The Chic-Fil-A Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Orange, Rose, Sugar, and others traditionally significant bowls will still draw crowds and would stay afloat. No one would force them to stop and if they can still make money, they will continue to operate. FYI there is a segment in the book about how the Chic-Fil-A Bowl operates just fine outside of the BCS because it invites regional programs with large fan bases. Tell me, how well did the UConn-Oklahoma Fiesta Bowl do at the ticket office?

Dan Wetzel, Jeff Passan, and Josh Peter are a bunch of fakes. Entitle a book one thing but the result of the book's call would lead to another. Looks like lost credibilty to me.

Yeah they are fakes. They fake it so well that they have been a part of one of the most read on-line sports sites in America. I get it, they don’t agree with the BCS system and your line of thinking so they must be wrong.

Another fact, is that Alan Barra, Wall Street Journal writer, says "Last year's Heisman winner, Alabama's Mark Ingram, could have been scoring touchdowns in a meaningful playoff match instead of just another bowl game when No. 16 Alabama crushed No. 9 Michigan State 49-7 on New Year's Day in the Capital One Bowl." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 98062.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BS. Alabama was not invited to Mr. Wetzel's playoff and still would have played in a bowl but somehow his plan is a winner. Who is receiving the revenues from the 16 team playoff solicited by 'Death to the BCS'? I know it isn't the NCAA. So you have a book saying everything in college athletics or the BCS is a scam yet the money from the book is going where????????

Yeah it sucks Ingram had to waste a great game in a meaningless bowl. Had his team won in the regular season, they could have earned an at-large bid or a guaranteed bid had they won the SEC. How dare they blow that 24-0 lead against Auburn. They were robbed. How dare a team with 3 conference losses that didn’t take care of business be left out of a post season playoff.

Both the BCS bowls and non-BCS are not operated absent of the NCAA. The NCAA certifies who can host bowl games. DO HOMEWORK!!!!! If you watched the BCS title game. Then I'm sure you saw that the chain gang had a official NCAA Patches and that's because they NCAA certifies the BCS National Championship.

Yes the BCS is contracted by the NCAA, and the BCS does not have the power to crown a D-1 FBS NCAA National Championship. It’s called the BCS National Championship for a reason.

And what's your course of action exactly? My guess it that you don't have one but you're very quick so slam someone elses. I am glad EWURanger created a forum for the Kennedy Proposal and if you do not want to talk about the only proposal that has any chance of getting implemented, then leave the forum.

Yeah ok, let me leave. How dare I question your BCS proposal and anything else related to the doings of anyone in control. I am also glad he started this thread; it informed me that there are some BCS tools out there that are blind enough to think that the BCS is fine and it's the proper way of doing business. Get over yourself. Good for you for pushing your proposal. Give yourself a big pat on the back.

My course of action is to do and say whatever I damn well please, that includes shooting your proposal full of holes. Would you rather it got shot to pieces when you got to DC, or now so you can at least conjure up some reasons as to why your proposal trumps all of the issues I brought up. Sorry you got butt hurt about someone not agreeing with your proposal but fucking deal with it, this type of shit happens all throughout life. You can either cry your way back to the Olive Garden or learn from it and find ways to defend your asinine proposal.

[SDHornet]

I'm glad you side with you Mr. SDHornet but here's news: You two are the newbies, I've been pushing the Kennedy Proposal for over two years and this is the first time that either of you have commented. Besides, I'm writing on what I researched after attending Congressional Hearings and studying in the Library of Congress. Not spitting back out information that was researched by somebody else who is using a 16 team playoff to get rich.

I’ve never heard about your well-known proposal until Ranger posted it here. And I am sure the Yahoo columnists are going to make a ton of money off of their innovative and never done before 16 team playoff.

[brandonkennedy]

Thanks for the response. Have a good day.