September Clues is proof that media was involved in 9/11

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A friend at work suggested I watch this video (because I talk about 9/11 coincidences a lot), and I have to say, it brings up some very interesting points: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6293238834#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Highly recommend if you are interested in 9/11.. Probably going to piss some people off.. but it's important to ask questions.

[native]

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There's no way you could have watched the video in that time.

[HI54UNI]

We've been through this before in prior threads. You're not going to convince anybody here. More likely you are going to make everybody think you are a

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I was trying to remember who the Jesse Ventura guy was on here a few months ago and now I have my answer.

It's fine to ask questions. What I find extremely puzzling is that when the questions are answered the conspiracy guys reject rational explanations and then move on to some other reason that what they believe has to be true.

The other thing is that it dishonors people that went through it first hand. They saw the planes, they worked in the area, and some even were in the buildings or trying to save those in the buildings. And yet, they and all the networks were in cahoots with the government to pull the wool over the general public's eyes right?

Can you even begin to estimate the number of people that would be involved in this conspiracy? Have you ever seen a case where a huge number of people that would have been in on this in some fashion have kept their mouths shut?

I sure wish that Assange would have released some of the various conversations that are surely being had behind closed doors. I mean they came up with a lot of information but it is pure neglect on his part not to have culled that as well.

[native]

There's no way you could have watched the video in that time.

I watched the first 10 minutes or so - enough to know it was produced by idiots.

On 9/11, I also watched the plane hit the second building on live TV.

Hire a brain. Get a life. Do something useful.

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There's no way you could have watched the video in that time.

No need, he saw who posted the link.

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The website Patriotsquestion911.com has a list of many Americans who have serious problems with the official story.

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1,300+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
400+ Medical Professionals

Say that they have questions about 9/11 just like I do.

The 9/11 "truth movement" was started by victim's family members who had questions that weren't getting answered. The only people allowed to leave the country on 9/11 were the Bin Laden family. This alone should be grounds for a thorough investigation. The Bin Laden family are close friends and business associates of the Bush family. Do you really think we can't find Bin Laden a 6'6" guy who is on Kidney Dialysis?

Do you know that the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident was a staged event? That's what got us into the Vietnam War.

[89Hen]

Isn't the Jeff Rense show on?

[HI54UNI]

Popular Mechanics debunked the myths.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... ws/1227842

[HI54UNI]

The website Patriotsquestion911.com has a list of many Americans who have serious problems with the official story.

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1,300+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
400+ Medical Professionals

Say that they have questions about 9/11 just like I do.

The 9/11 "truth movement" was started by victim's family members who had questions that weren't getting answered. The only people allowed to leave the country on 9/11 were the Bin Laden family. This alone should be grounds for a thorough investigation. The Bin Laden family are close friends and business associates of the Bush family. Do you really think we can't find Bin Laden a 6'6" guy who is on Kidney Dialysis?

Do you know that the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident was a staged event? That's what got us into the Vietnam War.

Holy Shit! I just looked at the list of entertainers that believe the conspiracy and Roseanne Barr is one of them. She's a fucking genius at construction, physics, metallurgy, etc. I'm on board now!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The website Patriotsquestion911.com has a list of many Americans who have serious problems with the official story.

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1,300+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
400+ Medical Professionals

Say that they have questions about 9/11 just like I do.

The 9/11 "truth movement" was started by victim's family members who had questions that weren't getting answered. The only people allowed to leave the country on 9/11 were the Bin Laden family. This alone should be grounds for a thorough investigation. The Bin Laden family are close friends and business associates of the Bush family. Do you really think we can't find Bin Laden a 6'6" guy who is on Kidney Dialysis?

Do you know that the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident was a staged event? That's what got us into the Vietnam War.

You must not have checked back on that Gulf of Tonkin reply on your last attempt with this that you gave up on.

I love you crazy fuckers though. You're a lot of fun.

Keep us updated on the Jesse Ventura talking points will ya?

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I was trying to remember who the Jesse Ventura guy was on here a few months ago and now I have my answer.
It's fine to ask questions. What I find extremely puzzling is that when the questions are answered the conspiracy guys reject rational explanations and then move on to some other reason that what they believe has to be true.

No questions answered so far.. just a lot of insults and name calling. Could you maybe tell me where the plane tail section, bodies, luggage and everything else at Shanksville dissapeared for example? or why there isn't any footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon, even though it is the 2nd most videotaped piece of real estate in the world after the Vatican?

The other thing is that it dishonors people that went through it first hand. They saw the planes, they worked in the area, and some even were in the buildings or trying to save those in the buildings. And yet, they and all the networks were in cahoots with the government to pull the wool over the general public's eyes right?

// Many of the first responders and family members of victims are involved in the "truth movement", in fact, a representative of family members say "most" of them now think the gov. was involved, but the news won't show you when they say they heard explosions. In fact, 503 of the first responder's testimony was barred from being heard: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here, first responder Kevin Mcpadden 9/11 First Responder: Building 7 reports hearing a building 7 Countdown, Explosions, Controlled Demolition taking place: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can you even begin to estimate the number of people that would be involved in this conspiracy? Have you ever seen a case where a huge number of people that would have been in on this in some fashion have kept their mouths shut?

Well, yeah I can actually, during the Manhattan Project and all 130,000 people everybody kept their mouth shut just fine. With the compartmentalization of the military, you wouldn't need more than maybe 800 people in positions of power to pull off a false flag. If you were involved in a large crime, would you tell on yourself?

I sure wish that Assange would have released some of the various conversations that are surely being had behind closed doors. I mean they came up with a lot of information but it is pure neglect on his part not to have culled that as well.

[HI54UNI]

OMG! One of the doctors is Jacob Godwin – Licensed Acupuncturist, State of Texas. He has to know about what happens when you puncture stuff. Holy Shit how could I have been so blind!

[native]

You dumb fvck. Why do you think we dump fuel before making an emergency landing?

The flash point of jet fuel is only 100 degrees farenheit. Even though the autoignition point is slightly above 400 degrees, considering the fact that a turbine engine combustion chamber reaches 3,000 degrees and the fact that disintegrating jet engines met with tons of jet fuel under increased pressure inside the confined spaces of the impact floors, it is not remarkable that the jets exploded upon impact with the Twin Towers.

Kerosene burns at between 500 and 600 degrees in a lamp, which is not under any increased pressure.

This has nothing to do with the fact that the Tonkin Gulf incident was staged and used disingenuously by Lyndon Johnson.

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Sorry, even if the jet fuel obliterated the entire area around the impact, the building still shouldn't have falling into the path of most resistance at free-fall speed (both of them).

They would have tipped over, and fallen to the side, the whole building wouldn't have dissappeared.

[HI54UNI]

Say it ain't so Rosemary! Why didn't you tell me? I'm so disappointed that the brilliant Rosemary Radford Ruether, PhD – Professor Emerita of Feminist Theology didn't tell me that this was all a massive conspiracy.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

You dumb fvck. Why do you think we dump fuel before making an emergency landing?

The flash point of jet fuel is only 100 degrees farenheit. Even though the autoignition point is slightly above 400 degrees, considering the fact that a turbine engine combustion chamber reaches 3,000 degrees and the fact that disintegrating jet engines met with tons of jet fuel under increased pressure inside the confined spaces of the impact floors, it is not remarkable that the jets exploded upon impact with the Twin Towers.

This has nothing to do with the fact that the Tonkin Gulf incident was staged and used by Lyndon Johnson disingenuously.

That's crazy talk Native. The next thing your going to tell me is that we will someday be able to propel transportation vessels via an internal combustion engine based on those same principles.

[HI54UNI]

Sorry, even if the jet fuel obliterated the entire area around the impact, the building still shouldn't have falling into the path of most resistance at free-fall speed (both of them).

They would have tipped over, and fallen to the side, the whole building wouldn't have dissappeared.

You obviously couldn't have read the Popular Mechanics link I posted in that time.

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[HI54UNI]

I KNOW! I KNOW! There's a black guy in picture 11!! What do I win?!?!?!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Sorry, even if the jet fuel obliterated the entire area around the impact, the building still shouldn't have falling into the path of most resistance at free-fall speed (both of them).

They would have tipped over, and fallen to the side, the whole building wouldn't have dissappeared.

How do you know how it would have collapsed? Is this your area of expertise? Are you quite astute on building demolitions?

Could it be possible that where the planes hit the building they were still structurally intact until the heat generated by the aforementioned plane crashing into the area and lighting the floor on fire with the explosions had weakened the steel and once that steel became pliable it then (with the help of pressure from the floors above) buckled and gravity being what it is pushed it all directly down?

I'm asking because I don't have nearly the background in this that I assume you do.

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I do have a degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Wisconsin, but I only got a 3.5, so..

[native]

No questions answered so far.. just a lot of insults and name calling. Could you maybe tell me where the plane tail section, bodies, luggage and everything else at Shanksville dissapeared for example? ...

To your second point, yes. I am a trained aviation mishap investigator. The Shanksville plane hit the ground at a very high speed and steep angle, crushing the debris in a deep hole, as opposed to scattering it all around as would have happened had the plane hit the ground with a glancing blow, as is usually the case, and as illustrated in all but one of the mishap pictures in the collage you posted.

To your first point, you are a dumb fvck.

[native]

I do have a degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Wisconsin, but I only got a 3.5, so..

...and my dick is twenty feet long!