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The NDSU Football Conglomerate thanks the Eagle for the football game.

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mebison wrote:Good luck, Eagles! Looks like you'll have your hands full with Nova.

Sounds like it was a fun game to watch. I was caught up in other things so just tried to catch the score or the GDT every once in a while.

Let's do it again next year! :thumb:
I missed most of the game too due to the blizzard, we got the message at 2:38 that the mall was closing, so I had a shovel and was very popular in the parking lot. Got 2 of my fellow vendors at my house, they could not get to their house from the mall. Still had to shovel to get 2 vehicles in the driveway, then watched the end of the game. Have to go back the mall this morning to get the other guys vehicle going, and get situated for today's show.

Anyway good luck EWU!
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This just in from the Golden Arm Committee:
Although the Eagles played a decent football game they are not the better team. 1 critical non-call and 3 bad calls by the officials at critical points in the game, all in favor of the Eagles, exposed an incompetence that may have revealed a bias in favor of an EWU win.

1) Coulter Boyer was wrapped and tackled allowing Jones to break free for the first EWU TD. Holding was not called.

2) A pass that clearly bounced off the turf into the receivers hands resulting in a first down instead of a 4th and long resulted in a long TD pass to Jones on the next play.

3) A pass interference call in the end zone for incidental contact on an uncatchable ball on 4th down gave the Eagles a first and goal resulting in the tying touchdown.

4) Brock Jenson was clearly down when the ball came loose in the overtime drive. It was not a fumble.

As a result the game was indecisive. EWU has improperly advanced. They are an undeserving squad in possession of a "faux victory".
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JBB wrote:This just in from the Golden Arm Committee:
Although the Eagles played a decent football game they are not the better team. 1 critical non-call and 3 bad calls by the officials at critical points in the game, all in favor of the Eagles, exposed an incompetence that may have revealed a bias in favor of an EWU win.

1) Coulter Boyer was wrapped and tackled allowing Jones to break free for the first EWU TD. Holding was not called.

2) A pass that clearly bounced off the turf into the receivers hands resulting in a first down instead of a 4th and long resulted in a long TD pass to Jones on the next play.

3) A pass interference call in the end zone for incidental contact on an uncatchable ball on 4th down gave the Eagles a first and goal resulting in the tying touchdown.

4) Brock Jenson was clearly down when the ball came loose in the overtime drive. It was not a fumble.

As a result the game was indecisive. EWU has improperly advanced. They are an undeserving squad in possession of a "faux victory".

Kalm does your lame schtik better than you do, jb. :ohno:

Maybe regroup for next season and try to come back a little smarter so you aren't forced to act like your ignorance is intentional when clearly it isn't?

Way to beat the stuffing out of them, though.
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The Eagles werent as good as advertised. The game was close only because of one area not considered in either the qualitative or quantitive analysis: officiating.

An average team with 2 good players and some adequate support players has now improperly advanced in what has become a tainted tournament.

I see the dispatches have detailed some of the calls but the action of the officials on the field and in the booth is not only profoundly perplexing but it also speaks to their intent and motivation.

The game showed NDSU to be the stronger, better coached team with the superior game plan only to have all of that neutralized by what some are calling the worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

I will only say, in the spirit of sportsmanship as it is practiced at the highest level (something that is part of the culture at NDSU) good game.

I dont believe the game was decisive. I dont believe EWU was the better team. I think they are in possession of a win they do not deserve and one they did not earn. It is tainted and will from this date forward bear the asterisk of shame:
Eastern Washington 38 NDSU BISON 31 *

* win not earned/bias in officiating
It was a dark day in BISON LORE. A clearly superior team playing a clearly superior game is robbed of victory:

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mgbison wrote:Jones is good, but if you tackle him once, he's done for the game. I've never seen a back that is that big of a pussy.
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EWU problem is that their passing game is worse than NDSU's. Their receivers are tall but can't catch for ****. The QB is terrible too. If Jones plays against nova, EWU has a chance. If he gets tackled once or twice he'll curl up in the fetal position and call it a day.

I give credit where credit is due, #4 and #98 are damn good players for EWU.

Its a shame that another game has to be played at Roos Field. Terrible atomosphere. How is EWU even D1? Division 3 schools in MN get more fan support than the Eagles.

Good Luck against Nova. After watching all the games this weekend, it's gonna be tough for anybody to beat them in my opinion. Delaware didn't impress me on friday, but I thought Nova looked damn good.
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Yeah, 20 for 230, helmet to helmet cheap shots, and a probable broken ankle. That pussy ran through, around, and occassionally over a very good defense yesterday.

But thanks for the compliments. It's a shame not every bison is as classy as you are in defeat. Who did you learn that from? :thumb:
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As we wait for the return of THE MIGHTY BISON reflection turns from the past to the future. NDSU is fielding what may today be the best FCS football team in the country. This was the "YEAR OF EMERGENCE". The year the common fan without the gift of football insight saw what is going to be a dominate team for years to come. Some of us saw this team bubbling under last year and made the call only to hear the scorn from the common fan. Now there is no question.

The NDSU Football Conglomerate will begin work immediately persuing an agenda of football excellence. This is going to take endeavor both behind the scenes and with the team and coaches working tirelessly on the fundamentals of the game.

Behind the scenes "The Conglomerate" will bring tremendous pressure to bear of the NCAA and other responsible parties to correct what is now beginning to be interpreted by fans across the country as a bias officiating group that entered the game with a pre-determined outcome in mind.

The Team and Coaches will begin work immediately on preparation for the games to be played sometime during the September-December period next year.

Im sorry I cant wish the Eagles good luck. They didn't earn it on the field. I also want to say this is not an expression of anger, disrespect or dislike for EWU and their fans. Until evidence linking them to this football crime surfaces it has to be assumed the officiating bias came from unrelated parties. The University and its fans did all they were capable of doing in providing hospitality to the visiting team during the game period of the Eastern Washington 37 NDSU BISON 31 * faux victory.

* win not earned/bias officiating
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Jones didnt earn his stats. They were given to him by the clearly biased officiating. The first was given to him by the officals not calling the holding that sprung him in the open field. The second was given to him on the previous third and long catch that bounced off the turf but was not called.

Jones is a good back and even in a strong league would get notice, but he is not an all american phnom. Jones qualifies as an all american with apparently the minimum requirements. He has some speed and a few moves but lacks physical durability and true "football spirit".

NDSU fielded much better running backs with DJ McNorton shaming Jones with his performance.
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As we wait for the return of THE MIGHTY BISON reflection turns from the past to the future. NDSU is fielding what may today be the best FCS football team in the country. This was the "YEAR OF EMERGENCE". The year the common fan without the gift of football insight saw what is going to be a dominate team for years to come. Some of us saw this team bubbling under last year and made the call only to hear the scorn from the common fan. Now there is no question.

The NDSU Football Conglomerate will begin work immediately persuing an agenda of football excellence. This is going to take endeavor both behind the scenes and with the team and coaches working tirelessly on the fundamentals of the game.

Behing the scenes "The Conglomerate" will bring tremendous pressure to bear of the NCAA and other responsible parties to correct what is now beginning to be interpreted by fans across the country as a bias officiating group that entered the game with a pre-determined outcome in mind.

The Team and Coaches will begin work immediately on preparation for the games to be played sometime during the September-December period next year.

Im sorry I cant wish the Eagles good luck. They didn't earn it on the field. I also want to say this is not an expression of anger, disrespect or dislike for EWU and their fans. Until evidence linking them to this football crive surfaces it has to be assumed the officiating bias came from unrelated parties. The University and its fans did all they were capable of doing in providing hospitality to the visiting team during the game period of the Eastern Washington 37 NDSU BISON 31 * faux victory.

* win not earned/bias officiating
I really hope you take this up with the NCAA. As your #1 fan I won't stand for this injustice..... :lol: couldn't type that with a straight face
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JBB wrote:The Eagles werent as good as advertised. The game was close only because of on area not considered in either the qualitative or quantitive analysis: officiating.

An average team with 2 good players and some adequate support players has now improperly advanced in what has become a tainted tournament.

I see the dispatches have detailed some of the calls but the action of the officials on the field and in both is not only profoundly perplexing but it also speaks to their intent and motivation.

The game showed NDSU to be the stronger, better coached team with the superior game plan only to have all of neutralized by what some are calling the worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

I will only say, in the spirit of sportsmanship as it is practiced at the highest level (something that is part of the culture at NDSU) good game.

I dont believe the game was decisive. I dont believe EWU was the better team. I think they are in possession of win they do not deserve and one they did not earn. It is tainted and will from this date forward bear the asterisk of shame:
Eastern Washington 38 NDSU BISON 31 *

* win not earned/bias in officiating
It was a dark day in BISON LORE. A clearly superior team playing a clearly superior game is robbed of victory:

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Sorry JBB, I understand your frustration with the outcome of this game ending on a questionable call. But to say that NDSU was clearly the better team is just complete homerism, IMO. A stronger, better coached team does not allow a running back to gain 200+ yards in the first half. A better team does not give up 90 yard drives with 2 minutes left in the game.

NDSU's offensive is built on a power running game and wearing people down. You should have dominated in the second half under horrible field conditions. And while NDSU did a really good job of running the ball, I saw #98 wreaking all kinds of havoc on that offensive line of yours. I think EWU's front 7 were a lot more "physical" than you were expecting them to be.

A few things to think about:

The conditions in the second half made it damn near impossible to rely on any type of vertical passing game, something EWU has *HAD* to rely on to win games all year long.

1st Downs: Tied
Total Yards: EWU
Total Rushing: EWU
Total Passing: EWU
Fewest Penalties: EWU
Red Zone Scores: EWU (3-3) vs. NDSU (1-5)
Turnover Battle: NDSU +2

So tell me again, how was NDSU the better team?
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Jones looks to me like a guy that should have gone out for track or maybe tennis. He is an athlete to be sure but not of the football mold. Lean but rather weak, fast but timid. There were a couple hitters on the Eagles squad.

The best player was LB #4. He was one of the few players on the Eagles team that would look good and get some playing time as a BISON.
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JBB wrote: He has some speed and a few moves but lacks physical durability and true "football spirit".
Dude, you have no clue. Word is Jones has a broken foot. Not sure how many backs could play through with a broken foot. You have no idea the amount of heart that kid has and the number of injuries he's had to play through, especially last year. Broken hands, sports hernia, concussions. If you don't think he's a good player (which is funny), that's one thing. But to get on here and try to claim the kid has no "football spirit" is a complete joke.
JBB wrote:NDSU fielded much better running backs with DJ McNorton shaming Jones with his performance.
Sorry, you are wrong.
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The two long runs in the first half were illegal. The first was the result of a blatant holding not called. The second was a play that shouldn't have happened because the first down was granted on a pass that clearly bounced off the turf. Thats why the game gets the asterisk of shame.

At every critical juncture calls were made by officials on the field or in the booth that resulted in the statistical perversions you are citing.

Ps. Your opinion is as wrong as mine EWURanger.
Jones is not a durable back. As long as he plays in a soft league he may continue to do OK, but in the MVFC he wouldn't have finished the season. He didn't even finish 1 game against a 7-4 MVFC team that had no respect from EWU fans.
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:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

You are embarrassing NDSU will all these excuses. :thumbdown:
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:tothehand:

The Eagles have advanced, properly or improperly seems to be somewhat related to perspective. Disagree on Jones all you want, nobody is going to say this game was officiated properly and with an even hand. It was a faux win.

Eastern Washington 38 NDSU BISON 31 *

* win not earned/bias officiating
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EWURanger wrote::ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

You are embarrassing NDSU will all these excuses. :thumbdown:
If you see these points of fact as excuses for an NDSU loss you are compelled to consider this:

Its Eastern Washington with the excuses for a "win". They were given a win not because they were the better team, although they may have been, they were given the win by improper and what is beginning to look like biased officiating. The officials made your team look better than it was and that gives you the excuse for the faux win.

It's just unfortunate the Eagles were denied a chance to display how good they are. The officials took the pride away from you and left you with an asterisk *.

* win not earned/bias officiating
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There were a couple of bad calls - the catch you are mentioning did look like it hit the turf, and the call at the end looked bad and they didn't have enough to over-turn the ruling on the field. The PI was blatant.

You were spouting off all week about how much better a team NDSU has. Assuming there were some bad calls made, surely a team with so much more talent and better coaching would have overcome a couple of bad calls?

Like I've said, we've been on the wrong end of more than a few questionable calls, so I understand where you're coming from feeling that you got robbed. Really, I do.

But to suggest that any officials in these types of games are biased towards one team or another is just a joke, let alone CAA officials working a game on the west coast.
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It was simply too much to overcome. The series of officiating errors through out the game were all in favor of Eastern Washington giving the Eagles a tremendous advantage enabling them to eek out a win against a stronger and more athletic squad. Im not even talking about the bad booth calls that prevented the BISON from continuing drives. Im just talking about the errors that gave EWU an undeniable offensive advantage.

Bias is a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation. To have so many calls, that were so obviously wrong, go in favor of EWU at every juncture may be revealing a lack of objectivity that made it impossible for them to consider the situation without partiality.

The only other thing to consider is the officials acted under order to assure a predetermined outcome and there is absolutely no evidence of that.

Why in the world would a CAA official want one of their teams to go to the wood chipper known as The Fabulous Fargo Dome when the alternative is a trip to Cheney? I offer that as pure speculation as to why there may have been a bias.
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SuperHornet wrote:I got on the net feed just in time to see the replay. While I was naturally rooting for EWU, looks to me like NDSU got robbed there. Either the QB was down, or if there was a fumble, I thought I saw a receiver recover in the end zone for an NDSU touchdown.
Thats what we saw here in the Command Bunker as well. It was the last bad call in a game that was seriously flawed in favor of the home team. This entire situation is under review.
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JBB, did you like how Renard Williams and JC Sherritt out-physicalled your o-line all night? Why do you think the refs missed all of those Bison holds once they got tired of Renard fighing through double teams into the backfield hitting Jensen before he could hand the ball off? Being a fan of physical football I'll bet you really enjoyed 5'8" 220 lb JC fighting off lead blocks, filling in the gaps or making solo tackles on the edge.

Granting your subjective analysis of Taiwan's two early runs, where were the penalties on the other 99 yards he gained?

We played a terrible game on offense putting the ball on the ground 7 times, losing it 3, and throwing 2 interceptions, one a pick 6. Your offense scored 21 points off of field position gifts from our offense. We should have won that game in regulation by at least 2 scores.

The better and more physical team played a terrible game on offense and still won because that's what superior teams do. :coffee:
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JBB wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:I got on the net feed just in time to see the replay. While I was naturally rooting for EWU, looks to me like NDSU got robbed there. Either the QB was down, or if there was a fumble, I thought I saw a receiver recover in the end zone for an NDSU touchdown.
Thats what we saw here in the Command Bunker as well. It was the last bad call in a game that was seriously flawed in favor of the home team. This entire situation is under review.
This has to have been one of the most entertaining threads in recent memory.

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Thats what Jones earned: 99 yds. The rest were gifts from the officials along with 14 pts. True score of that game was NDSU 31- EWU 10.

The NDSU BISON defense made the EWU offense look terrible. The officials made the EWU offense look great.

This is a victory wrapped in shame. An undeserving team advances with a faux win. But Eagles are scavengers. EWU was nowhere near the best team we played this year. I would put them in the top 5. The officials sure made them look good though. Glad you are taking pride in it.
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JBB wrote:Thats what Jones earned: 99 yds. The rest were gifts from the officials along with 14 pts. True score of that game was NDSU 31- EWU 10.

The NDSU BISON defense made the EWU offense look terrible. The officials made the EWU offense look great.

This is a victory wrapped in shame. An undeserving team advances with a faux win. But Eagles are scavengers. EWU was nowhere near the best team we played this year. I would put them in the top 5. The officials sure made them look good though. Glad you are taking pride in it.
And you are embarrassing NDSU fans (which isn't an easy thing to do). Glad you are taking pride in it. :rofl:
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The NDSU fans are on their own. I am with the Golden Arm Committee.
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Completly understand and appreciate all of the Bison complaints about Officials !!! I started to "post" last week after the SEMO game, but didn't because of the "fallout".
However, the Redhawks were the least penalized in our Conference this year and were called for (6) Holding Penalties in the first half against the Eagles !!!! All of the penalties were after gains of over 10 yards !!!
Oh yeah, they did call one penalty on the Eagles when they were inside of their 5 yd line after an incomplete pass !!!
I was so mad at the game!!! It was really very disheartening to be sent 2,000 miles and have to play on that God Awful turf and the Officiating be so "Suspect". Do not understand why the NCAA allows thus activity.
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