Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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I give it to ASU for the simple fact that they are a proven winner and History is on their side. :twocents:
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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AZGrizFan wrote: Especially since there won't BE a co-champion.


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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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BlackFalkin wrote:At the end of the day it doesnt matter bc guess what...... Eastern Washington U will be hoistin up the NC trophy.
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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If both ASU and Delaware lose, EWU has a chance
to move past them both in the polls. If Montana State wins, would the committee not seed the #1 ranked team in the country, or seed them lower than 3?
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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This thread stinks of West Coast bias. Plus, I don't think anyone wants to see a TV game on that red turf.....
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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dbackjon wrote:
appvette wrote:

Are you guys really saying a non top 25 DII is better than the number 20 FCS? And again, even if they are even, look at the margin of victory.

Yes. Jacksonville is NOT a top 20 FCS team, no matter what the rankings say.
So in other words, only the teams that you personally believe should be ranked should be there? I mean, what do a bunch of coaches and sportswriters know anyway...... :kisswink:
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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ASUG8 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Yes. Jacksonville is NOT a top 20 FCS team, no matter what the rankings say.
So in other words, only the teams that you personally believe should be ranked should be there? I mean, what do a bunch of coaches and sportswriters know anyway...... :kisswink:
The coaches know less than most on this board about schools outside their own conference, and have you seen the TSN poll? :coffee:
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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Here is a simple concept for FCS teams. Don't schedule D2 teams. You know that its gonna hurt you in the end.

I just want NDSU to be in EWU's bracket. I think it would be easier to go win a game at EWU vs than at Montana. Whats the capacity of EWU's sadium? It looks tiny on those pictures. (big assumption that NDSU and UM win this weekend).
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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mgbison wrote:Here is a simple concept for FCS teams. Don't schedule D2 teams. You know that its gonna hurt you in the end.

I just want NDSU to be in EWU's bracket. I think it would be easier to go win a game at EWU vs than at Montana. Whats the capacity of EWU's sadium? It looks tiny on those pictures. (big assumption that NDSU and UM win this weekend).
If we had DI non or partial schollies out west we'd schedule them until the cows came home. :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote:Because App State draws 30,000 a game. :nod:
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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dbackjon wrote:Assuming EWU wins (Idaho State) and App loses (Florida), both would be 9-2.

Both would have a loss to FBS (EWU's top 20, ASU's not ranked).
Both would have a loss on the road to conference mate (EWU's top 5-10, ASU's top 25 if they win)

EWU's OOC was a solid DII, and a good SUU.
ASU's OOC was a non-schollie, and a horrid NCCU.

So why should ASU be ranked ahead of EWU??
When you break it down to the facts like that, they shouldn't. Only edge I would give App is the 30pt beatdown of the number 4 ranked team as well as the pts. differential in both of their losses. Regardless of rankings, a 7pt OT loss on the road against traditional power & rival doesn't look as bad as a +20pt beatdown.....
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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Appaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Assuming EWU wins (Idaho State) and App loses (Florida), both would be 9-2.

Both would have a loss to FBS (EWU's top 20, ASU's not ranked).
Both would have a loss on the road to conference mate (EWU's top 5-10, ASU's top 25 if they win)

EWU's OOC was a solid DII, and a good SUU.
ASU's OOC was a non-schollie, and a horrid NCCU.

So why should ASU be ranked ahead of EWU??
When you break it down to the facts like that, they shouldn't. Only edge I would give App is the 30pt beatdown of the number 4 ranked team as well as the pts. differential in both of their losses. Regardless of rankings, a 7pt OT loss on the road against traditional power & rival doesn't look as bad as a +20pt beatdown.....
That's the way I see it too.
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mgbison wrote:Here is a simple concept for FCS teams. Don't schedule D2 teams. You know that its gonna hurt you in the end.

I just want NDSU to be in EWU's bracket. I think it would be easier to go win a game at EWU vs than at Montana. Whats the capacity of EWU's sadium? It looks tiny on those pictures. (big assumption that NDSU and UM win this weekend).
I would love to have the Bison come up here. :twisted:
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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No surprise that everyone that thinks SUU sucks are a bunch of back east homers...coming from 0-11 to 6-5 in three years if that is not a good improvement i dont know what is. Just quite apparent they dont look into the facts. :roll: :roll:. They can spout off nonsense all they want, already went through this with the out west teams but we gradually gained their respect. We will just continue to improve and let our talking be done on the football field. :coffee:
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Oh, we were discussing "Most Improved"?

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Let's settle this issue the old-fashioned way! ON THE FIELD!! :thumb:
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Not just that but thanks for the ribbon anyways :D. We are a good team and i expect us to have a really good shot at making the playoffs next year. :thumb:
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SUUTbird wrote:Not just that but thanks for the ribbon anyways :D. We are a good team and i expect us to have a really good shot at making the playoffs next year. :thumb:
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SUUTbird wrote:No surprise that everyone that thinks SUU sucks are a bunch of back east homers...coming from 0-11 to 6-5 in three years if that is not a good improvement i dont know what is. Just quite apparent they dont look into the facts. :roll: :roll:. They can spout off nonsense all they want, already went through this with the out west teams but we gradually gained their respect. We will just continue to improve and let our talking be done on the football field. :coffee:
Show me who from "Back East" said anything negative about SUU on this thread. :o Gannon even said you're improving.
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GannonFan wrote:I actually just kinda stopped reading after he called SUU good.
89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

They are a team that has improved each year...just can't get over the hump. Again, they are a good team, not a great team, but not a crappy team.
IOW, they can lose with the best of them. They basically improved by beating Cal Poly instead of losing to them.
And so on and so forth. Just the usual lack of respect. Not calling each and every individual who goes for a back east team, but it is quite apparent several of you guys still for some reason think were cellar dwellers. As i stated above we will continue to improve and do our talking on the football field. :twocents:
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Who wants to bet me that Eastern Washington University will win the Nat' Championship this year? :coffee:
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?

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BlackFalkin wrote:Who wants to bet me that Eastern Washington University will win the Nat' Championship this year? :coffee:

What do I win? :coffee:
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SUUTbird wrote:
GannonFan wrote:I actually just kinda stopped reading after he called SUU good.
89Hen wrote: IOW, they can lose with the best of them. They basically improved by beating Cal Poly instead of losing to them.
And so on and so forth. Just the usual lack of respect. Not calling each and every individual who goes for a back east team, but it is quite apparent several of you guys still for some reason think were cellar dwellers. As i stated above we will continue to improve and do our talking on the football field. :twocents:
More "Back East" hate. I guess no one "Out West" has ever said anything negative about your current state of affairs. Geographic hate so ugly. You should stop practicing it.
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BlackFalkin wrote:Who wants to bet me that Eastern Washington University will win the Nat' Championship this year? :coffee:
What do you want to bet? :popcorn:
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jd of de wrote:
SUUTbird wrote:


And so on and so forth. Just the usual lack of respect. Not calling each and every individual who goes for a back east team, but it is quite apparent several of you guys still for some reason think were cellar dwellers. As i stated above we will continue to improve and do our talking on the football field. :twocents:
More "Back East" hate. I guess no one "Out West" has ever said anything negative about your current state of affairs. Geographic hate so ugly. You should stop practicing it.
It's because Gannon and 89Hen are so familiar with SUU and GWC football... :roll:

He provided two good examples. Move along. :thumb:
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