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Who gets in?

SCSU (8-2 DI)
14
30%
Liberty (8-3 DI)
6
13%
Dayton (9-1 DI)
1
2%
Jacksonville (9-1 DI)
6
13%
ODU (8-3 DI)
5
11%
FAMU (7-4 DI)
0
No votes
Duquense (7-4 DI)
0
No votes
CCST (7-3 DI)
2
4%
Montana (6-4 DI)
7
15%
JMU (6-5 DI)
6
13%
 
Total votes: 47

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CatMom wrote: Oh Please, play Houston (with Keenum) or TCU with Dalton or A&M with Johnson and we'll talk. I'm more impressed with APP's upcoming game with FL than VT. Think about it. How good is VT really? They lost to a 5-5 FCS team
Really? Beating a top 25 FBS team with a phenom QB like Taylor and RB's like Williams, Evans, etc. and the ridiculous athletes on that team is an accomplishment. Texas A and M doesn't even come close to comparing, and Houston with Keenum is only as good as Keenum, because as we've seen, the rest of the team SUCKS.

And how good is VT? They are 8-2 in FBS and are ranked top 25. They're undefeated in the ACC. There is NO. I repeat NO. FCS team that would be UNDEFEATED in the ACC right now. Not App, not UD, not anyone. Tech won by 16 @ UNC, top FCS school William and Mary lost to the Heels.

It's not east coast or CAA bias, it's beating a good team. There is life outside of Texas.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
CatMom wrote: Oh Please, play Houston (with Keenum) or TCU with Dalton or A&M with Johnson and we'll talk. I'm more impressed with APP's upcoming game with FL than VT. Think about it. How good is VT really? They lost to a 5-5 FCS team
Really? Beating a top 25 FBS team with a phenom QB like Taylor and RB's like Williams, Evans, etc. and the ridiculous athletes on that team is an accomplishment. Texas A and M doesn't even come close to comparing, and Houston with Keenum is only as good as Keenum, because as we've seen, the rest of the team SUCKS.

And how good is VT? They are 8-2 in FBS and are ranked top 25. They're undefeated in the ACC. There is NO. I repeat NO. FCS team that would be UNDEFEATED in the ACC right now. Not App, not UD, not anyone. Tech won by 16 @ UNC, top FCS school William and Mary lost to the Heels.

It's not east coast or CAA bias, it's beating a good team. There is life outside of Texas.
The CAA is and has been the TOP FCS CONFERENCE for at least the past 5 yrs. I am getting sick & tired of the constant stupid claims about ECB and all the CAA shit. It's fucking ridiculous if you look at things objectively. They should get credit for playing other CAA teams if those teams are ranked opponents.

If you want to do a fair comparison with the teams then ask yourself if any of the other teams would have done as well with JMU's or UM's schedule. It would seem more likely that some of the teams with the weaker schedules would fall below the marks of those teams...especially JMU. But the fact remains that you probably have to get to 7 and if it don't happen you don't have a case.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
Really? Beating a top 25 FBS team with a phenom QB like Taylor and RB's like Williams, Evans, etc. and the ridiculous athletes on that team is an accomplishment. Texas A and M doesn't even come close to comparing, and Houston with Keenum is only as good as Keenum, because as we've seen, the rest of the team SUCKS.

And how good is VT? They are 8-2 in FBS and are ranked top 25. They're undefeated in the ACC. There is NO. I repeat NO. FCS team that would be UNDEFEATED in the ACC right now. Not App, not UD, not anyone. Tech won by 16 @ UNC, top FCS school William and Mary lost to the Heels.

It's not east coast or CAA bias, it's beating a good team. There is life outside of Texas.
The CAA is and has been the TOP FCS CONFERENCE for at least the past 5 yrs. I am getting sick & tired of the constant stupid claims about ECB and all the CAA shit. It's fucking ridiculous if you look at things objectively. They should get credit for playing other CAA teams if those teams are ranked opponents.

If you want to do a fair comparison with the teams then ask yourself if any of the other teams would have done as well with JMU's or UM's schedule. It would seem more likely that some of the teams with the weaker schedules would fall below the marks of those teams...especially JMU. But the fact remains that you probably have to get to 7 and if it don't happen you don't have a case.
I know Texas State would get 2 or 3 wins on JMU's schedule (Morehead, Towson, maybe Liberty). SFA would likely get 4 or 5. (Same as above plus Maine and maybe Richmond or UMass)
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CatMom wrote: Oh Please, play Houston (with Keenum) or TCU with Dalton or A&M with Johnson and we'll talk. I'm more impressed with APP's upcoming game with FL than VT. Think about it. How good is VT really? They lost to a 5-5 FCS team
Virginia tech is a pretty darn good team...with the exception of Georgia tech all their wins have been by double digits. JMU was an anomaly
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: The CAA is and has been the TOP FCS CONFERENCE for at least the past 5 yrs. I am getting sick & tired of the constant stupid claims about ECB and all the CAA shit. It's fucking ridiculous if you look at things objectively. They should get credit for playing other CAA teams if those teams are ranked opponents.

If you want to do a fair comparison with the teams then ask yourself if any of the other teams would have done as well with JMU's or UM's schedule. It would seem more likely that some of the teams with the weaker schedules would fall below the marks of those teams...especially JMU. But the fact remains that you probably have to get to 7 and if it don't happen you don't have a case.
I know Texas State would get 2 or 3 wins on JMU's schedule (Morehead, Towson, maybe Liberty). SFA would likely get 4 or 5. (Same as above plus Maine and maybe Richmond or UMass)
Shit man, they'd need to catch Richmond early it appears. Richmond is 4-1 in their last 5 games so they are on a hot streak right now. If they were to beat W&M next week then they are in in my book. That's a hell of a hot run for a team that gets to the 7 wins mark.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: The CAA is and has been the TOP FCS CONFERENCE for at least the past 5 yrs. I am getting sick & tired of the constant stupid claims about ECB and all the CAA shit. It's fucking ridiculous if you look at things objectively. They should get credit for playing other CAA teams if those teams are ranked opponents.

If you want to do a fair comparison with the teams then ask yourself if any of the other teams would have done as well with JMU's or UM's schedule. It would seem more likely that some of the teams with the weaker schedules would fall below the marks of those teams...especially JMU. But the fact remains that you probably have to get to 7 and if it don't happen you don't have a case.
I know Texas State would get 2 or 3 wins on JMU's schedule (Morehead, Towson, maybe Liberty). SFA would likely get 4 or 5. (Same as above plus Maine and maybe Richmond or UMass)
Not this year :ohno:

BTW - Houston lost they're #1 & 2 QB's. That's a big blow to most FBS programs. Take that away from an FCS and it's pretty disastrous too. (Actually we lost our #1 and #2 went down against MSU now we're on our 3rd. Though it isn't the reason we suck so bad, really)

and the ACC sucks eggs.
(this is my opinion and does not necessarily reflect those of management)

Don't forget folks, I grew up on the east coast and I still feel that way about the ACC.
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This is a tough one. As much as it pains me, I really don't think any team that is 3-5 in conference should make the playoffs even though I think JMU has better wins than everybody else on that list and all of their losses but one were within a score (and we were leading at the half of all but one, too) if that matters to the committee. I agree, they're still losses and we would be 3-5 in conference which, to me, is a killer.

At 6-4 I don't think Montana has a win that separates itself from the pack of 7 win teams, so they are out IMO. If they win this weekend, they're obviously in.

Among the seven win teams:

SCSU beat FAMU....FAMU out.
Jacksonville beat ODU...ODU out.

If you look at the remaining seven win teams, they have some common opponents and some head to head to help out, but not necessarily sort anything out.

Dayton lost to Duquesne but beat Robert Morris
Duquesne beat Dayton but lost to Robert Morris and CCSU
CCSU beat Duq. but lost to Robert Morris
Liberty lost to Robert Morris
Jacksonville somehow avoided playing Robert Morris :)

If we use the "Robert Morris tiebreaker", Liberty, CCSU and Duquesne are out, but then you have to figure in that Dayton, who is the sole vanquisher of RMU, lost to Duquesne. I think this discussion, in and of itself, knocks all of these teams out.

That leaves Jacksonville and SCSU. SCSU lost to an FBS and the conference's auto-bid, B-C.
Jacksonville beat Ole Miss...er, I mean ODU and got beat pretty soundly at App.

Judging from past history, I think that it goes to SCSU, but I would like to see Jacksonville get the nod and see how they fare in the opening round.

This all assumes that we're vying for one spot. If this discussion is for more than one spot, I think we need to re-think this whole 20 team deal...well, I think we need to re-think it anyway, but whatevs...
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If I'm on the NCAA Selection Committee, that means that I'm looking for $$$. Montana it is.
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CatMom wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
I know Texas State would get 2 or 3 wins on JMU's schedule (Morehead, Towson, maybe Liberty). SFA would likely get 4 or 5. (Same as above plus Maine and maybe Richmond or UMass)
Not this year :ohno:

BTW - Houston lost they're #1 & 2 QB's. That's a big blow to most FBS programs. Take that away from an FCS and it's pretty disastrous too. (Actually we lost our #1 and #2 went down against MSU now we're on our 3rd. Though it isn't the reason we suck so bad, really)

and the ACC sucks eggs.
(this is my opinion and does not necessarily reflect those of management)

Don't forget folks, I grew up on the east coast and I still feel that way about the ACC.

Listen, regardless of what you think, Va. Tech is in the Top 25 and JMU beat them. We didn't just play them...we beat them. It's a better win than any shitty Southland loss to a possibly good FBS team.

Is it enough to get us in the playoffs with the way the rest of our year has been? No freaking way. Is it still an incredible win and better than beating any FCS team? Hell yes.
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I've got your back McV. I still maintain that JMU is the best .500 team in the country.
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93henfan wrote:I've got your back McV. I still maintain that JMU is the best .500 team in the country.

Thanks. I really think that IF we beat Maine this Sat., we'll be the best six win team in the country. But that and .50 will get me bus fare for the Thanksgiving leftovers feast on the 27th.
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God, I love stirring the pot :stir:
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